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Hubby in the Hot Seat over Hot Flashes
Dear Annie: For the past year, my wife, "Janie," has been getting hot flashes. She is always broiling in the house while the rest of the family freezes. She insists on keeping the temperature at 70, while the rest of us are most comfortable at 74. She recently purchased warm slippers for everyone and suggested we wear long sleeves.
Annie, I like to wear T-shirts and walk barefoot. I work long hours, and when I come home, I like to shed most of my clothes. I pay the mortgage and should not be freezing in my own home. Our family doctor said the hot flashes could last for years. I say she is disrespectful to all of us. She says I am insensitive. We are at an impasse.
I found out she is looking for an apartment. I love my wife and beg you to help us before it's too late. — Upstate New York Where It's 20 Degrees Outside
Dear New York: You think you're uncomfortable? Imagine how your wife feels with an internal thermostat that periodically sets her on fire. The U.S. Dept. of Energy recommends that your home thermostat be set at 68 degrees in winter (78 degrees in summer). You can warm up more easily than your wife can cool down.
We recommend a compromise. You offer to be comfortable in sweats if she will speak to her doctor about medication to control her hot flashes or visit a health food store for more natural remedies. A pair of slippers and some hot cocoa seems a small price to pay to save your marriage.
Dear Annie: My mother has three brothers. My grandmother's eyes are blue, and my grandfather's are blue-gray. My mother and two of her brothers have brown eyes.
From my college biology class and some Internet research, I understand this is genetically impossible. This leads me to believe my mother and uncles may not be my grandfather's children. I also know that my grandmother had many miscarriages and a stillborn. My grandparents also have marital issues and have come close to divorcing on a few occasions.
Should I speak to my mother about this? I'd like to know my biological family. — Brown-Eyed Girl
Dear Brown-Eyed: Eye color is very complicated. While not common, it is indeed possible for blue-eyed parents to produce brown-eyed children. And if your grandparents carry a mutation, it would make sense that more than one child would have brown eyes. So please don't jump to any conclusions. If you are concerned that your genetic background is inaccurate, speak to your mother.
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Once, a toddler ran up behind my husband, who stepped back and fell over the boy. The kid wasn't hurt, but my husband tore a ligament in his arm. I've seen children run into stone walls and glass doors and need to be transported to emergency rooms. Take it from me. If you want an enjoyable evening, leave your children at home. Everyone will be safer. — Photographer in Houston
Dear Houston: Not all children are so wild, and not all parents are so negligent. And often, the bride and groom want their little nieces and nephews in attendance. To avoid disasters, we recommend that bridal couples who wish to include young children hire babysitters to entertain and watch the kiddies.
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LW2- let me paraphrase this. "I am a know it all college student who wants to announce that on the strength of 1 biology class & some internet research, I now know for a 'fact' that my grandmother is a lying cheating adulteress who passed her lover's kids off as grandpa's for many years. No one but me ever noticed this. I know their marriage has issues but that doesn't influence my decision to make my announcement. It just proves I'm right. My certainty and my curiousity trump any consideration of the effect my pronouncement will have on anyone else." Great idea, kid, that will get you points in the family. Suggest you follow Annie's advice and speak to your mother privately. Eye color is not as simple as you make it sound.
LW1 - love how your paying the mortgage is the reason you're entitled to be comfortable in your home & your wife is not. I'm betting this isn't the only reason she's looking for an apartment.
Comment: #1
Posted by: kai archie
Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:32 PM
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Wow. LW1 must be rolling in the money if he can afford to keep his thermostat at 74 degrees F. I wish I could keep mine at 76F or even 80F, but I'm not rich, so we keep it at 67F in the winter (60F at night).
LW1's wife cannot stop the hot flashes. Mother Nature is the boss. He can, however, don more clothes. I am beyond hot flashes, but I'll never forget the great grandmother of them all. I woke up in the middle of the night. It felt like I'd died and gone to hell. I am not joking. I took a long cold shower, and then I did not dry off. I turned on the AC (window unit) full blast at the coldest setting. I stood in front of it for maybe 15 minutes. My husband slept thru it all. But if he'd complained, I would've told him to suck it up. And I usually run cold. When others are hot, I'm comfortable. (My hot flashes happened only at night.) After that big one - I figure Mother Nature was having her last hurrah - I never had more than a little flash lasting a few minutes.
The Annies are right. Drink some cocoa, wear some socks, and use the money you save on the heating bills to go for a romantic getaway to a B&B for a weekend. (That's where we were when I had my huge hot flash.) I bet LW1's wife will stop looking for an apartment.
Comment: #2
Posted by: carolyn
Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:37 PM
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LW1, my DH bought a mini-fridge for my side of the bed, since most of my hot flashes were at night. He put bottles of water and cool wet cloths in the fridge, so whenever my temperature was "on high" I only had to reach over to grab what I needed. The college sized refrigerators are less than $100 (and often you have them left over from when your kids were in school). Before that, I was peeling out of the bed and running outside in the middle of the night, in whatever I did or didn't have on. And go to the OB/GYN with her, for moral support.
Comment: #3
Posted by: angoradeb
Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:42 PM
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Re: limniade Wow! You sure told him like it is! I hope LWs read the comments. Sometimes they're better than what the Annies say!
Comment: #4
Posted by: carolyn
Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:42 PM
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LW1- Makes perfect sense to me. I can understand not wanting to put on a sweater, especially if you pay the mortgage! I assume you are working on a person air-conditioner suit that your wife can wear so that she can stay cool while you stay toasty warm, barefoot, with the heat cranked. Ass.
LW2 - Uhh, Annies, that's not how eye colour works - you can't carry a brown eye gene if your eyes are visibly blue, green or grey. The odds of two blue eyed parents producing even one brown-eyed offspring are extremely low and would have to be caused by an independent mutation. Two brown eyed parents can produce blue eyed children, but not the other way around. It is for all intents and purposes a certainty that grandpa is not the biological father. Eye colour actually is pretty simple...
That said, LW2, you think you're the first person to notice that? Think again. Would you like for your mother to find out she is not her father's daughter if she doesn't already, just so you can show off what you learned at school? It's not your business. Whatever happened, it was many years ago, and more of your family than you think is probably aware of it. Keep out of it.
Comment: #5
Posted by: Zoe
Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:43 PM
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Re: kai archie
Brilliant, on both counts.
Comment: #6
Posted by: angoradeb
Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:44 PM
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Re: Zoe
Well, science has now proven that two perfectly nice parents can still have an insufferable know-it-all child.
Comment: #7
Posted by: angoradeb
Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:47 PM
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LW1-
If the two of you insist on digging your heels about this, you are both being insensitive and disrespective each in your corner of the ring. Are you wearing boxing gloves to keep you from the cold?
It is not essential for you to walk around half naked in order to feel comfortable - wear cotton socks and a 3/4 sleeve cotton T. On the other hand, if your wife adamantly refuses to consult either e physician or some naturopath, then she IS being disrespectful - there are products on the market to help with her condition. And keep in mind that "natural' doesn't mean harmless.
Perhaps you should suggest a visit for the two of you to a marriage counsellor, to help the two of you finding a common ground someplace in between the equator and Siberia. But... if she's already shopping for an apartmwent, there may be more going on about her attitude than hot flashes.
P.S.: I don't care what the "U.S. Dept. of Energy recommends". At 68 degrees I'd want gloves. I'm not gonna make jewellery with frozen hands.
LW2-
I don't know what kind of Mickey-Mouse Internet search you conducted, but the first result *I* got was Wikipedia, which stated "The genetics of eye color are so complex that almost any parent-child combination of eye colors can occur." They provided references to back up this assertion, which you can consult by cliking on the links.
I would be curious to see your grades as a biology student, because it would appear that you have not understood your classes very well.
P.S.: For you to assume that your mother is not your grandfather's daughter based solely on eye colour and marital difficulties is... shall we say, jumping the gun to say the least and rather simplistic in a twisted sort of way. Perhaps you should forget about studying a discipline where you clearly understand nothing, and concentrate on writing scripts for daytime soaps.
Comment: #8
Posted by: Lise Brouillette
Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:47 PM
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Re LW2, the thought occurred to me that her hypothetical biological relatives might not be happy to meet her. Imagine having someone show up on your doorstep with the following message: "Hi! My grandmother fooled around with your grandfather, so you and I are related! Let's celebrate our new-found family!" Maybe the other family - if it even exists - doesn't know or imagine that Granddad fooled around decades ago.
Why do I have the impression that LW2 doesn't like her grandmother very much?
Comment: #9
Posted by: carolyn
Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:51 PM
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This guy considers 70 degrees "freezing"? I've been very cold-natured this winter and we still keep our thermostats set at 67/68 during the day and they drop to 62 or below at night. Seventy would be downright tropical. Even now, I've got a shawl around my shoulders.
I'd love to keep it warmer, but the gas bills would be horrendous.
Comment: #10
Posted by: Joannakathryn
Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:52 PM
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My hot flashes generally aren't severe or long-lasting--I just heat up like a Cylon along the back and torso for about 60 seconds or so. But the frequency is increasing from about 4-5 a day to...well, dozens, but after this many years, I've long since stopped keeping track. It's merely annoying instead of debilitating, so I'm "lucky", but it still kinda sucks. Normally I run cold too (I'm writing this right now wearing a tank top, a long-sleeve shirt and a fleece sweatshirt in a 71-degree room) and ironically, the main night-time symptom for me is night sweats, which occur when I'm too COLD, not too hot. I know, right? I can't win. I have hot flashes which makes layers uncomfortable for one minute out of every 10 or 15, but then if I keep the layers off I get night sweats. And that's ON medication. (So I should call the doctor too and see if I can get an upgrade.)
This might be TMI to any men reading this, but maybe you'll read and try to understand a little that menopause is a major physical change for a lot of women. I know the Annies like to blame every marital ill on menopause, and there are a few women in BTL who think that because they haven't suffered anything major, then that must mean nobody does and they're all just making it up. But everybody's different and some women just get dealt a crap hand in the menopause game. I personally went through it when I was 16! (Premature ovarian failure. Same difference.) Diagnosed when I was 20. So here I am at 38 and I've been in menopause longer than my 64-year-old mother. My side effects are mild but chronic. Other women have no symptoms. Still others have moderate symptoms that go away after a year or a few years. You can't predict what's going to happen until you're there.
And then, when you're in the middle of all these bizarre physical changes that are often super-uncomfortable or downright painful, which can cause excessive, constant bleeding, make your hair fall out or make you grow a mustache and sideburns, make your vagina dry up and murder your libido or your ability to orgasm, make you burn up during the day and sweat your ass off at night, that make you look and feel and think as though aliens have taken over your body, where even when you seek medical help, you're just as likely to find out that you have to go through this for YEARS or even for the rest of your LIFE! And then guys like Captain Sensitive write in about how unfair it is that they have to put on a pair of socks? Seriously? Give me a freakin' break.
Comment: #11
Posted by: limniade
Thu Feb 23, 2012 9:59 PM
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Excuse me, but genetic/DNA testing is readily available for anyone who wishes to answer any *inheritance* questions one may have, i.e. who the person's grandfather was.
Comment: #12
Posted by: Ms Davie
Thu Feb 23, 2012 10:09 PM
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LW2- Umm.... genetics are not that cut and dry, especially for eye color! I minored in Biology in college, and even though I do not know tons about genetics, I do know that much. It is not only one gene which determines eye color, there are many. Your eye color is determined greatly by the amount of melanin in your eyes, which then determines what light wavelengths are both absorbed and reflected. This is greatly simplifying it cause so much more goes on than this, but that is the basic gist of it.
Since there are so many genes involved in determining this, it is possible, albeit not common, for two blue-eyed parents to have brown-eyed children. I'm sure your grandfather noticed the "we both have blue eyes yet our children don't" fact, and he probably believes somewhere inside of himself his wife was unfaithful, thus the rocky marriage. Imagine being a wife who was indeed faithful, yet everyone believes you were not, including your husband, children, and grandchildren! Eye color is not as simple as "dominant and recessive" traits because it is not one single gene which determines it. There are many, thus producing the many different combinations of eye colors in the world, including the gorgeous blue eyes with brown spots and the rare purple eyes (yes, there are purple eyes...).
This letter reminded me of the movie Skin which I watched a few months ago. The movie is set in South Africa where two white parents gave birth to a black girl, Sandra. The husband constantly accuses his wife of cheating on him and I don't think he ever really believed she was his. I had never heard of a black child being born to two white parents before this movie. Later in the movie, they called this "genetic throwback." It explained towards the middle of the movie somewhere in Sandra's ancestry there was a black person. When two white people with just enough black genes have a child together, it can produce a child with black characteristics. This movie, Skin, was based on a true story.
Basically, I'm saying this isn't a new revolution. These sorts of things are possible. It is prideful to think we know everything there is to know about genetics. Humans are really just now beginning to unlock the full scope of the complexity in our genes. As for the LW, she should let this sleeping dog lie. I'm sure the grandmother is sick of being accused of infidelity... she doesn't need to hear it from her granddaughter too. It'd break her heart to hear it through the gossip vine (in other words, I'm sure her mother would whisper about it and it would get back to her some how).
Comment: #13
Posted by: Maria
Thu Feb 23, 2012 10:26 PM
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LW1: Really? You're going to let your wife move out because it's unacceptable for you to turn the temperature down 4 degrees and wear socks? I wonder what else she's had to put with, and now she's finally going to do it - good for her.
LW2: Well, I've always been taught that 2 blue eyed parents can't produce anything blue eyed children, but a simple internet search shows that the Annie's are correct, one or both of the parents may have a mutation in their eye-color genes, which would account for many of their children having brown eyes.
My mother had light green eyes, but her parents were both Eastern European with no light colored eyes anywhere in the family tree. I would have been suspicious (I wonder if their relatives were), except that my brother and I both came out looking exactly like her father, and my sister looks just like her mother.
Comment: #14
Posted by: Steve C
Thu Feb 23, 2012 10:39 PM
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www<dot>dailymail<dot>co<dot>uk/femail/article-1093674/The-tragic-story-white-girl-born-black-tore-family-apart<dot>html
Here is an article on the true story the movie Skin was based on. It is interesting. Just replace the <dot> with "."
Comment: #15
Posted by: Maria
Thu Feb 23, 2012 10:42 PM
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Hell, for that matter, white people are a genetic mutation, since the vast majority of people in the world are brown. Imagine how people in Africa or Asia felt 30,000 years ago or so when they gave birth to white babies. "Thog, look, it's a girl. Wait, wtf?" Non-brown eyes are also a genetic mutation--only 4% of the world's population has eyes that are not brown. And then you look at countries like Brazil, which have had several generations of interbreeding among various ethnic groups, with the result being an exceptionally beautiful populace. Kinda puts it in perspective, doesn't it?
Comment: #16
Posted by: limniade
Thu Feb 23, 2012 10:51 PM
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70 is warm? God since WHEN? Yuck. I feel for LW1. Whenever I visit my grandmother in FL I turn her thermostat UP to 75 so I don't freeze. Most people here in Mtl think my home is very warm. Well they're welcome to open a window or go out on the balcony. I refuse to shiver in my own damn house. I suggest miss hot flash open a window or her freezer door and "chill" a bit. That cold sinks in your bones and is painful to remove. No sympathy here! (and note as usual annies are all about coddling Ms Menopause)
Comment: #17
Posted by: wkh
Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:37 PM
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Lise being as we both like jewelry and warm temps, find me on the internet, I wanna hang out with you! :-)
-wendy, who is cold at anything under 74F
Comment: #18
Posted by: wkh
Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:39 PM
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It's HER own damn house too, wkh. Why should she roast in her own damn house?
Comment: #19
Posted by: limniade
Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:44 PM
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Re: Maria...What I was getting at in my comment, Maria, was that who the LW's "real" grandfather is/was can be easily answered by doing a DNA test on the family members in question, regardless of the eye color *problem*. If the grandfather is no longer 'available' DNA testing done on other family members will show enough markers to give a valid answer as to whether he's the REAL grandfather or not.
Comment: #20
Posted by: Ms Davie
Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:52 PM
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* * * * PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT * * * *
LW3 refers to the second letter on 13 January 2012, and was also discussed on 16 February 2012.
Comment: #21
Posted by: Beguiling Miss Pasko
Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:58 PM
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They Annies give good advice sometimes, but their advice to LW3 was a little off. They should have written, "If parents want to bring their kids with them, THEY need to hire someone to watch them at all times, if they don't plan to do their job as parents."
It isn't the job of the hosts, who are already bending over backwards to try to be welcoming, and to invite friends with kids so the whole family will feel included, to spend even more money making sure someone is providing supervision for all of those unruly children. In fact, if they do, and end up providing appropriate discipline when the kids act up in the ways the LW described, they could be sued. Parents like those described are oblivious. The LW is right -- they should not be invited in the first place.
None of the above is aimed at parents who DO take responsibility for their children. But the ones described by the LW clearly weren't doing so. Before whining about how your children aren't welcomed everywhere with open arms and hugs, take a good look at how they're acting.
To LW1 - it is your house, but it's also your wife's. Even if she doesn't pay the mortgage, presumably she has contributed in other ways, such as raising the kids and doing housework. (This isn't to put down your own contribution, but she has contributed too, right?)
Instead of looking for antagonistic solutions, look for compromises. You may want to do what some friends of mine did in a similar situation, when the wife was suffering from hot flashes: turn down the central heating to make your wife more comfortable, then heat the rooms you (the husband) spend most of your time in, with safe space heaters like oil filled electric heaters. Keep the part of the house with central heating cool and comfortable, but keep some inner doors closed and warm up some of the other rooms for yourself.
If you can't do that, then help her look for an apartment, or look for one for yourself. You each need an environment you can go to which is reasonably comfortable. If that means you can't live together for a while, that may be the way to go.
Comment: #22
Posted by: sarah morrow
Fri Feb 24, 2012 12:06 AM
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They Annies give good advice sometimes, but their advice to LW3 was a little off. They should have written, "If parents want to bring their kids with them, THEY need to hire someone to watch them at all times, if they don't plan to do their job as parents."
It isn't the job of the hosts, who are already bending over backwards to try to be welcoming, and to invite friends with kids so the whole family will feel included, to spend even more money making sure someone is providing supervision for all of those unruly children. In fact, if they do, and end up providing appropriate discipline when the kids act up in the ways the LW described, they could be sued. Parents like those described are oblivious. The LW is right -- they should not be invited in the first place.
None of the above is aimed at parents who DO take responsibility for their children. But the ones described by the LW clearly weren't doing so. Before whining about how your children aren't welcomed everywhere with open arms and hugs, take a good look at how they're acting.
To LW1 - it is your house, but it's also your wife's. Even if she doesn't pay the mortgage, presumably she has contributed in other ways, such as raising the kids and doing housework. (This isn't to put down your own contribution, but she has contributed too, right?)
Instead of looking for antagonistic solutions, look for compromises. You may want to do what some friends of mine did in a similar situation, when the wife was suffering from hot flashes: turn down the central heating to make your wife more comfortable, then heat the rooms you (the husband) spend most of your time in, with safe space heaters like oil filled electric heaters. Keep the part of the house with central heating cool and comfortable, but keep some inner doors closed and warm up some of the other rooms for yourself.
If you can't do that, then help her look for an apartment, or look for one for yourself. You each need an environment you can go to which is reasonably comfortable. If that means you can't live together for a while, that may be the way to go.
Comment: #23
Posted by: sarah morrow
Fri Feb 24, 2012 12:06 AM
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L1: I like to keep my house warm too, and I don't care how much it costs. But I live in California. I'm sure that it would be more expensive to heat a home in a New York winter. Maybe LW could get a space heater for his man cave?
L2: I had to google and I believe LW is correct. It is extremely improbable for two blue eyed parents to produce a brown eyed child, because it requires two recessive blue genes to produce a blue eyed child. So if both blue eyed parents have two blue genes, the child will get one blue eyed gene from his/her mother and one blue eyed gene from his/her father. I would advise LW to speak to her mother - GENTLY and tactfully. Maybe they are adopted.
L3: Parents, please keep an eye on your children. Yes, it is hard, but you cannot let them run hog wild at a wedding or any special party.
Comment: #24
Posted by: PuaHone
Fri Feb 24, 2012 12:18 AM
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LW1:
I do not know your financial situation, but if you want to and can afford to keep it at 74 degrees, then you may have the financial resources to consider home automation especially in regards to temperature control. It would allow you to control the temperatures of individual rooms, i.e. one room is hotter, another room is colder, etc. Think of it as individual thermostats, plus as a bonus, if you get a good system, everything can be controlled by remote, and your wife will think your a saint when you see the other features that can be offered (light control, music, etc).
Look into it, see if it can fit into your budget, and if it does, go for it, it'll solve about 90% to 95% of your problems.
Comment: #25
Posted by: Mookster
Fri Feb 24, 2012 12:25 AM
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Re LW1: Your wife may be suffering from occasional hot flashes, but if you're "freezing" at 70 degrees, then it's more likely that you're the one with the medical problem. Even given that you like being half naked when you're at home, 70 is a comfortable temperature for a normal human being. Please see your doctor for an endocrine evaluation as soon as possible, before your abnormal reaction to normal temperatures wrecks your marriage.
Comment: #26
Posted by: Jeanne
Fri Feb 24, 2012 1:32 AM
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OK, LW1 Lets address the most obvious thing first. You are an ass. Simple as that, your wife is going through a physical change that can take years and your complaining about putting on a pair of socks and a sweat shirt. God help you if you ever develope circulatory issues, you will be cold all the time, no matter what. That said, lets move on to the next thing. If you can afford to keep your home at 74 degrees, you must be loaded. Energy costs are horrendous as it is, our home is kept at 60 degrees all the time, we wear a lot of sweats and socks around here. Slippers are a must and blankets are strewn over every chair in our living room.
My suggestion, quit complaining. You could be one of the thousands who haven't got enough money to even consider keeping the thermostat at 68 (recommended). And if your wife is looking for an apartment, maybe if you stop being a heat-nazi she might change her mind. Personally, I think she will be happier without you.
Comment: #27
Posted by: Cathy ARmacost
Fri Feb 24, 2012 3:02 AM
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As a brown eyed brunette in a family of blue eyed blonds I can confirm it CAN happen. I inherited my coloring from my great grandfather and my blood type from my grandmother (I'm A- while my parents were O+ and A+). It CAN happen.
Comment: #28
Posted by: Cailean
Fri Feb 24, 2012 3:19 AM
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Everyone's internal temperature is different. To me, any temperature above 70 is too hot, indoors OR out, and nothing is more uncomfortable to me than being too warm. On the other hand, my boss is always freezing and likes an indoor temperature of 78. He says nothing is more miserable than being too cold. It all depends on which category you fall into. Luckily for us, we're a two-person office and we have separate thermostats. He keeps HIS side of the office on "broil", while mine is on "freeze" and it works out fine. In the case of LW1, it sounds like a temporary condition of the wife who's having hot flashes and will work out eventually. In the meantime, it IS her home too, and it won't hurt her husband to put on a sweater and not insist on running around in his skivvies!
Comment: #29
Posted by: Kitty
Fri Feb 24, 2012 3:22 AM
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LW1 - I don't blame your wife for looking for an apartment. You pay the mortgage therefore you have the say?? Wow...so much for marriage being an equal partnership! I'm thinking you rule all other aspects of the home, too.
And since when is 70 considered freezing? When I was growing up, the thermostat was set at 68 and I remember being fine. And I grew up in New England, where winters are very cold. We wore sweaters in the winter. If you like to walk around with no socks on and in a t-shirt, get an electric blanket like someone else on here said.
While I have not experienced hot flashes yet, my one aunt does. The woman would literally roll around naked in the snow if she could. In the dead of winter, she has her thermostate set at 65 and walks around in shorts and tank tops. Her husband understands that she cannot control this (yes, she has tried doctor and natural remedies and while they help some, she still has them) so he bought some fleece pants and comfy slippers. Your wife cannot turn off her body temperature.
LW2 - Do some internet research, sweetie. You will see that two blue eyed parents can have a brown eyed child. And my brother and his wife are proof. They both have green/blue eyes and their daughter has brown eyes. And, yes, she is my brother's daughter. She is the spitting image of him.
Don't base paternity on eyes, for crying out loud. I remember an advice letter once where a woman claimed to believe the father of her grandchild was her DIL's best friend's husband because he and the baby had similar wide toes. Please don't be ignorant like that.
Comment: #30
Posted by: Michelle
Fri Feb 24, 2012 3:51 AM
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On LW2: I can understand this young person's concern. Yes, blue-eyed parents can indeed have brown-eye children, but it's pretty rare for it to happen. I think rather than chastise this kid for not learning the lesson very well (and how sad that people are so insecure as to try to "empower" themselves by seeming "smarter" than a kid), we should stop and consider the confusion for this young person. Plus, remember, teachers don't always explain these things that well or absolutely correctly or in detail. One of my best friends had this same lesson, back in 1966, and realized that this seemed to indicate her parents could not both be her parents. Guess what? She was right. She was adopted, and this was how she found out. I think the odds of this eye color hop happening genetically are pretty small, but in a country the size of ours, no doubt it happens a few times a year. Now, all those other times, uh, well, uh, you know ...................
Comment: #31
Posted by: Ms. Rowena
Fri Feb 24, 2012 3:53 AM
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LW1--"I say she is disrespectful to all of us. She says I am insensitive." I say you're acting like an idiot. If your wife is indeed looking for an apartment, then you can trust me when I tell you it's not because you prefer the temperature be set at 74 while she prefers it be set at 70. I'm guessing that your objection to your wife's control of the thermostat is the latest in a long litany, over the years, of nit-picks, objections, unwelcome critiques, et al. With you, everything has to be a battle of wits. Give it a rest! Your wife's body is changing and she has no control over her internal thermostat. What she does have control over is the thermostat in the house. While this means you'll actually have to walk around in something other than your underwear, it also means your wife will be comfortable and happy in her own home! You have no idea what your wife is going through right now and either does anyone else in your household. Show your wife that you actually care about her feelings and put on a damn sweatshirt and don a pair of slippers before your wife walks out the door.
LW2--"Should I speak to my mother about this? I'd like to know my biological family..." Sweetie, when it comes to biology and especially genetics, nothing is really impossible, including the sudden appearance in a family of an unusual eye color. From a simple biology lesson on Mendelian inheritance, you've now concluded that your grandparents' marriage was rife with infidelity and that you aren't who you thought you were. To confront your family with these suspicions based solely on the flimsy "evidence" you've gathered is likely to create problems for you and the rest of your family that could last years. It's obvious that you are dissatisfied with your current family and the possibility of your "real" family being out there somewhere appeals to you. Please talk to a trusted teacher or family friend to get at why you might be so unhappy that you're willing to accuse your grandparents of adultery.
LW3--"Not all children are so wild, and not all parents are so negligent." Wow! And here we have it folks, the understatement of the year.
Comment: #32
Posted by: Chris
Fri Feb 24, 2012 4:01 AM
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LW1: 74 is unnecessarily warm and definitely wasteful. You're being entitled and insufferable, and frankly, if you *need* to be in a t-shirt to be comfortable, you need to move south rather than live where you are. 68-70 is perfectly reasonable for any human being with the right clothes on, period. Frankly, our ancestors lived with a lot fewer complaints AND with a lot less heat. If they could do it, so could you. Put on your big boy pants and suck it up, or let her go.
LW2: Even if you are correct, why would you want to lob this hand grenade into your family? Do you hate your grandparents? Are you that desperate for your family's attention, any attention, good or bad? I'd sit on this "revelation" for a while, until you can really understand what your motivations are for doing this -- and I mean your REAL motivations, not your rationalization of your motivation.
LW3: Ultimately, it's up to the bride and groom to decide who to invite, including whether children are invited. Guests who have children who are not invited are free to skip the wedding if they are that upset that their children aren't invited -- but it's not their right to override the wishes of the wedding couple.
Comment: #33
Posted by: Mike H
Fri Feb 24, 2012 4:18 AM
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Typing "brown eyed child of" into Google search got this suggested search "brown eyed child of blue eyed parents". The top result was Stanford Medical School, a truly authoritative site, which says, "The short answer is that brown-eyed parents can have kids with brown, blue or virtually any other color eyes. Eye color is very complicated and involves many genes." What kind of hideously bad search did that idiot do? They say "grey" is an ancestral eye color. This is not blue! Grey eyes means it is *easy* to have a brown eyed descendant.
Comment: #34
Posted by: Nick
Fri Feb 24, 2012 4:20 AM
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Oh trust me, fellow, her looking for an apartment has a hell of lot more to do than hot flashes. Probably your arrogant sense of self entitlement...Prepare for alimony, pal.
Comment: #35
Posted by: happymom
Fri Feb 24, 2012 4:29 AM
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My deceased husband had blue eyes and was the only man I have ever been with. I have hazel eyes. We ended up with 2 brown eyed children and 5 blue eyed children. Was I a "slut" while sleeping or could it have been an immaculate conception?
Comment: #36
Posted by: MARY
Fri Feb 24, 2012 4:39 AM
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i think liminade pretty much summed it all up, perhaps more forcefully than i would have, but in reading later posts, there is sufficient reason. i'm one of the very lucky ones. i sailed through menopause with no symptoms at all. due to a lower than average income, central heating is a luxury we can't afford. we keep the bathrooms warm but heat the rest of the house with a fireplace. our friends know to wear warm clothes when visiting us in warm weather.
perhaps the family involved in the first letter might want to consider modifying their current house to contain a mother-in-law apartment. the letter writer can move in there and he can visit if he's willing to wear warm clothing. if zoning laws make that impractical, why not sell the current house and buy a two family? to heat the family home to 74 involves more dollars than sense.
Comment: #37
Posted by: alien07110
Fri Feb 24, 2012 4:51 AM
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Oh my, here I was worried about losing all interest in sex after menopause, and now I find out I'm going to spontaneously combust into fire. Look annies, I agree this guy should put on warmer clothes (and being that cold could point to circulatory problems or heart disease, which he should get checked out) but there's not need to exaggerate.
@Happymom, when you say "perpare for alimony", are you suggesting he will be paying it or receiving it? Lots of women make far money money that their husbands. It could be the husband who gets the alimony.
Comment: #38
Posted by: Jane
Fri Feb 24, 2012 5:03 AM
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Re LW#1--------Not so sure either one of these people are 'wrong' in their attitude. It looks like for years they kept the house at a temp. at which ALL were comfortable and dressed as they wanted inside their homes; and suddenly due to a medical situation on one person's side, the house temperature is now controlled by one person and the rest of them suffer.
My personal belief is that 74 degrees is pretty warm; but then, I don't live there. The LW and his kids do, however, and it's what they want, and also what his wife used to want.
(I don't give a hang what temp. the Dept. of Energy says we should be comfortable at; it used to be a higher temp and then energy costs skyrocketed so they changed the numbers. ) Our bodies didn't suddenly become OK with lower temperatures, the government just decided we were 'wasting our resources' in wanting to stay warm. I live alone now, and I can set my thermostat at a temp. I am comfortable with and can pay for, and it's my business and no one else's.
LW sounds like he has a crappy attitude, and I don't like his "I pay the mortgage", but I think her telling everyone to just bundle up so she can be OK is just as bad. I'm sorry she has hot flashes (because I've been through them myself) but it meant I went into another room and opened a window, not that I told the entire household they must now freeze because something had changed for me.
Maybe her getting an apartment is the best thing; she can be happy and comfortable, and so can the rest of her family.
Before my hot flashes started, I spent most of my life darn near freezing because my husband (he's now deceased) wanted a lower temperature than I did. Yes, I could either get a space heater and hide out in a separate room or bundle up and wrap myself in a blanket; but unless I wore gloves and a face mask, parts of me were still uncomfortably cold. It's just as reasonable to tell the wife to go into a separate, unheated room as it is for the entire family to sit around bundled up. One person controlling everybody because she has a medical excuse? Let HER leave the room since she is the one for whom things have changed.
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Re LW#2------------she is probably wrong about not being her grandfather's 'biological' offspring. But even if she's not, so what, and who cares? I get really sick of hearing about the stupid need to 'know one's biological medical history. What if your family had all been killed in a major disaster and all the family history buried with them? You'll still survive. Pay attention to your health, have regular check-ups and tests as needed, and just live your life. It's really none of your business if your grandmother was unfaithful to your grandfather. It's between them.
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Red LW#3----------it's the choice of the bride and groom whether to have children present or not. Yes, some are well-behaved and some are not. Are you going to put that on the invitation? "Cousin Judy may bring her kids because they mind, but Cousin Mary may not, because they are uncontrolled brats."
Easier to just have them all stay at home and KNOW none of them will ruin your wedding. And you know, those kids are really NOT going to have a great time going someplace where they have to sit perfectly still during the ceremony, they would probably much rather stay home with the babysitter. Only people who care if they are there are Mommy and Daddy who feel insulted everyone doesn't adore their kids to the point of not caring if the wedding gets ruined by an outburst of one of the cute little kiddies.
Comment: #39
Posted by: jennylee
Fri Feb 24, 2012 5:07 AM
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Re LW#1--------Not so sure either one of these people are 'wrong' in their attitude. It looks like for years they kept the house at a temp. at which ALL were comfortable and dressed as they wanted inside their homes; and suddenly due to a medical situation on one person's side, the house temperature is now controlled by one person and the rest of them suffer.
My personal belief is that 74 degrees is pretty warm; but then, I don't live there. The LW and his kids do, however, and it's what they want, and also what his wife used to want.
(I don't give a hang what temp. the Dept. of Energy says we should be comfortable at; it used to be a higher temp and then energy costs skyrocketed so they changed the numbers. ) Our bodies didn't suddenly become OK with lower temperatures, the government just decided we were 'wasting our resources' in wanting to stay warm. I live alone now, and I can set my thermostat at a temp. I am comfortable with and can pay for, and it's my business and no one else's.
LW sounds like he has a crappy attitude, and I don't like his "I pay the mortgage", but I think her telling everyone to just bundle up so she can be OK is just as bad. I'm sorry she has hot flashes (because I've been through them myself) but it meant I went into another room and opened a window, not that I told the entire household they must now freeze because something had changed for me.
Maybe her getting an apartment is the best thing; she can be happy and comfortable, and so can the rest of her family.
Before my hot flashes started, I spent most of my life darn near freezing because my husband (he's now deceased) wanted a lower temperature than I did. Yes, I could either get a space heater and hide out in a separate room or bundle up and wrap myself in a blanket; but unless I wore gloves and a face mask, parts of me were still uncomfortably cold. It's just as reasonable to tell the wife to go into a separate, unheated room as it is for the entire family to sit around bundled up. One person controlling everybody because she has a medical excuse? Let HER leave the room since she is the one for whom things have changed.
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Re LW#2------------she is probably wrong about not being her grandfather's 'biological' offspring. But even if she's not, so what, and who cares? I get really sick of hearing about the stupid need to 'know one's biological medical history. What if your family had all been killed in a major disaster and all the family history buried with them? You'll still survive. Pay attention to your health, have regular check-ups and tests as needed, and just live your life. It's really none of your business if your grandmother was unfaithful to your grandfather. It's between them.
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Red LW#3----------it's the choice of the bride and groom whether to have children present or not. Yes, some are well-behaved and some are not. Are you going to put that on the invitation? "Cousin Judy may bring her kids because they mind, but Cousin Mary may not, because they are uncontrolled brats."
Easier to just have them all stay at home and KNOW none of them will ruin your wedding. And you know, those kids are really NOT going to have a great time going someplace where they have to sit perfectly still during the ceremony, they would probably much rather stay home with the babysitter. Only people who care if they are there are Mommy and Daddy who feel insulted everyone doesn't adore their kids to the point of not caring if the wedding gets ruined by an outburst of one of the cute little kiddies.
Comment: #40
Posted by: jennylee
Fri Feb 24, 2012 5:07 AM
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Re: alien07110
Re the 'mother-in-law apartment'--------good idea, but why should the LW have to move into it? That leaves his kids living with the wife at a colder temperature, and from his letter, it sounds like before his wife's menopause, the whole family liked the 74 degree temperature, and now his wife is the only one who no longer likes it.
How about SHE moves into the new place and sets the thermostat wherever she wants it, and then the LW and his kids can stay where they are at the comfortable temperature they have always enjoyed prior to wife's hot flashes.
SHE has changed the situation (not by choice, I agree), SHE should be the one who has to change residences since she appears to be the only one unhappy with the current situation. (Not her fault, you can't help hot flashes---------but you can mitigate them with hormonal replacements, and you can go into another room instead of making your whole family suffer.
Comment: #41
Posted by: jennylee
Fri Feb 24, 2012 5:36 AM
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Re: MARY
You have hazel eyes, and so carry a brown eye gene. You might be a slut but that likely has nothing to do with the eye colour of your kid.
Re: Cailean
Eye colour doesn't work that way. One of your parents has brown eye colour combined with another colour (this often happens with hazel eyes, or "greenish brown" eyes). Brown eyes don't just pop back up, but they can be carried along.
Re: PuaHone
Assuming LW2 is correct... why advise her to discuss it with her mother? It won't change anything for the better. I can not see anything to be gained by "spilling the beans" based in 10th grade biology class.
Re: wkh
If you started gradually lowering your thermostat, you would likely eventually get used to any reasonable temperature you set it. When I lived with my grandparents I was comfortable at 19C (whatever that is in F) - I keep my apt warmer so now I am cold when I visit. I am moving to a house soon and to save money on heating I'll have to get used to 19C again!
Re: limniade
EVERYTHING is a genetic mutation. Every single trait we posses. It is unlikely that any black person (20,000 years ago, I mean, not today ;)) gave birth to a white person. This would have occurred over generations.
Re: angoradeb
Bahahaha. You don't know parents!
Comment: #42
Posted by: Zoe
Fri Feb 24, 2012 5:45 AM
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LW1: As a practical suggestion you might think of getting a chilipad (made by chili technology just google them ). No I don't work for the company or have any financial stake, but I have found the product to be amazing if you have temperature issues. You can get one with independent controls so one person can sleep at a toasty warm 100 degrees F and the other can sleep at an arctic 40 degrees F is they want to. Mind you this will only help when sleeping but that might go a long way. Otherwise your wife can only take off so many clothes, so you really should be more accommodating.
Comment: #43
Posted by: kames
Fri Feb 24, 2012 5:49 AM
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Re: limniade
Right Lim. Way too much information, you are not that fascinating. Your perspiration is boring.
Comment: #44
Posted by: Bloom Hilda
Fri Feb 24, 2012 5:50 AM
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Re: kames
Good idea for LW1 and his wife but holy hannah - what happened to stripping down and just sweating when it's hot, and putting on a sweater when it's cold? Hey, LW1, if you have a few pounds to lose, a lower temp might actually help you with that. Being constantly comfortable (temperature-wise) means that your body does not have to work to heat/cool you, so you burn fewer calories. Makes a difference at the end of a day of being perfectly comfortable 24/7.
Comment: #45
Posted by: Zoe
Fri Feb 24, 2012 5:59 AM
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LW1, consider yourself lucky you don't live with me. I have occasional hot flashes and I like my thermostat set at 64-66. (I wouldn't put up with your attitude, either.)
Comment: #46
Posted by: Annie
Fri Feb 24, 2012 6:39 AM
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LW1:
"I pay the mortgage and should not be freezing in my own home."
You sir, are a prick.
Her life will improve a hundredfold not living with someone with that attitude.
Crank up the heat, get comfy and let her move out.
She doesn't need to waste another year of her life with you.
Comment: #47
Posted by: sabrina free
Fri Feb 24, 2012 6:39 AM
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I think most here BLT can relate to the Psychology 101 syndrome. College kids learn something and relate it to everyone and everything. This Is the age of 'know-it-all'. So with this in mind I am giving her a pass on this. She just needs to keep it to herself.
Limniade, I do agree with you but please tone it down. Check with Lise on how to do this (I do appreciate it Lise). Many women can not take estrogen because of cancer concerns. Estradiol is a bioidentical and an excellent substitute for estrogen, no horses abused and a safer alternative. I chose to remove clothing and reapply after the flash past because I too like it warm and even 70 degrees was 70 degrees too hot for me. Never-the-less seems like a compromise could be worked out, "Ya'll wear more clothes and I'll wear less." or " Honey, those skinny legs and fat gut are really gross - on top of burning me up I am now sick to my stomach." Although I don't believe that this is the reason for his wife searching for another home, this problem is too easy to work out to break up a happy home over. I have never heard of one family breaking up over it but then again maybe it is one of those long held family secrets. For those here BTL that have not had hot flashes, walk a mile in our panties before judging a hot flash.
Comment: #48
Posted by: Penny
Fri Feb 24, 2012 6:42 AM
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Liminade Good use of expletives in your comment. And I do not mean that sarcastically. This is one of those times where the language seems well justified.
Comment: #49
Posted by: C Meier
Fri Feb 24, 2012 6:49 AM
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I'm green with envy for LW1. We live in NE Ohio under Lake Erie and our winters are terrible. I was born and raised in the south and am always cold. Last winter money was tight and we kept our thermostat between 60-62. I was often in tears I was so cold because my limbs were hurting and was always bundled up in 3 layers. I lost 15 lbs each of the last two winters because I'd bundle up and go running just so I could warm up. This last winter has been bizarrely (sp?) mild and for the first time actually put on weight this past winter because I've been comfortable. It helps that we have a natural gas furnace this winter and we keep it set at 68 and it feels perfect. I have no desire to go running this winter.
My hubby and daughter tend to run hot and they've made it clear to me that I can always put more clothes on but they can't just run around naked to get cooler.
Put more clothes on. There's probably something wrong with YOU if you're cold at 70. Get that checked out.
Comment: #50
Posted by: Lori
Fri Feb 24, 2012 6:53 AM
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LW1 - I don't know hot flashes from bupkis but if you're cold in a house with a temp set at 70 degrees then you, buddy are paying the mortgage on a pretty crappy house. I live in Colorado (20 degrees yesterday) and was perfectly comfortable working at home in bare feet, a t-shirt and jeans with the stat set at 68. Your wife is looking at apartments because she just now realized that you're a jerk. I'm also a guy and don't have hot flashes so there you are....Don't get me wrong. I'm a really hot guy but that's different. Just so you know. Okay.
LW2 - A biology class AND google and you've figured this out already. You are smarter than the average Beagle. I'll be looking for that cure for cancer and the end of world hunger from you any day now. Carry on, Ms. Einstein.
LW3 - Doesn't matter what happens at weddings/receptions with kids. Doesn't matter who's offended. If your kids aren't invited they're not invited. Don't go. Send a nice card. Enjoy your afternoon at Chucky Cheez.
Comment: #51
Posted by: Rick
Fri Feb 24, 2012 6:57 AM
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To LW2: Well, I have green eyes, and my ex husband's eyes are hazel - green-blue-gray. Our son has greenish-blue eyes, and our daughter has brown eyes. There is no possibility at all that anyone other than my ex husband and me are her biological parents. Obviously there was a brown eye color gene in there somewhere.
Comment: #52
Posted by: C Weisinger
Fri Feb 24, 2012 7:10 AM
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Re: C Weisinger
I bet either you or your husband have brown around your irises, blending into the green. Eyes are very interesting.
I did my family history of eye colour for a project a few years back. Everyone in my family (except for an uncle-by-marriage), several generations back, has blue / blue-grey eyes. DH has brown eyes but could carry a blue eye gene from his grandma. Fun.
Comment: #53
Posted by: Zoe
Fri Feb 24, 2012 7:15 AM
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Re: limniade
"Heat up like a Cylon"....love it!
Comment: #54
Posted by: Stephanie
Fri Feb 24, 2012 7:18 AM
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Regarding eye color, part of the complexity is that people whose eyes look blue don't necessarily have the "blue" that simple genetics lessons teach. One of my teachers gave the genetics lesson, then talked about a clear, light blue eye without any other colors in the blue, saying that was the type of blue being referred to.
I have blue eyes, but she told me technically I am not a blue-eyed person as the basic genetic example says because there are bits of other colors in my irises. So I'm more hazel then blue, and sometimes my eyes look more blue-gray. If there's a mix of colors in the iris, then grandkid has made incorrect genetic assumptions, and based on the comment that one set of eyes was blue-gray, I would say there wasn't hanky-panky. Get over it. It's not like just one of the kids was brown-eyed.
One guy in my class had pale, clear blue eyes with no other colors. Someone I knew said she'd seen that color on a couple of army sharpshooters and didn't know if it was coincidence (probably) or not. My classmate's eyes were probably the true blue eyes, and I thought he could look very distant and detached without trying. The mix of colors in the iris is more attractive, I think.
Comment: #55
Posted by: Reader
Fri Feb 24, 2012 7:31 AM
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Wow, LW1 is a prick. HE pays the mortgage so HE's entitled to be comfortable and screw his wife. Guess what jerk? You CAN put on a sweater a lot easier then she can cool down; you should be nice and comfortable while she sweats bullets? My husband likes it much colder then I do to sleep well so we turn the thermostat down and I put on socks. There's nothing he can do to be more comfortable when it's hot but I can put on more clothes. You sound like an entitled jerk and she should look for an apartment. Do what you want by yourself.
Comment: #56
Posted by: Kim
Fri Feb 24, 2012 7:34 AM
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After a hysterectomy in my 40s I slammed into menopause. After 2 months of patches tearing up my skin, I just let nature take her course. I have no intention of taking prescription or natural meds to stop this process. None of them are actually good for you and can interfere with drugs I take now for other things. I would never consider taking another med just so my husband can set the thermostat higher.
And do be warned: this can come back to bite you in the butt. My husband, due to a common medical condition suffered by many men as they age, now suffers from hot flashes.
So quit thinking of your comfort after work and start thinking about the misery your wife must suffer without warning.
Comment: #57
Posted by: Kat Erickson
Fri Feb 24, 2012 7:41 AM
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@Bloom Hilda: Don't be silly. Of course my night sweats are fascinating! Oh, the stories I could tell. Keep it up and I just might.
Comment: #58
Posted by: limniade
Fri Feb 24, 2012 7:43 AM
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Regarding eye color, part of the complexity is that people whose eyes look blue don't necessarily have the "blue" that simple genetics lessons teach. One of my teachers gave the genetics lesson, then talked about a clear, light blue eye without any other colors in the blue, saying that was the type of blue being referred to.
I have blue eyes, but she told me technically I am not a blue-eyed person as the basic genetic example says because there are bits of other colors in my irises. So I'm more hazel then blue, and sometimes my eyes look more blue-gray. If there's a mix of colors in the iris, then grandkid has made incorrect genetic assumptions, and based on the comment that one set of eyes was blue-gray, I would say there wasn't hanky-panky. Get over it. It's not like just one of the kids was brown-eyed.
One guy in my class had pale, clear blue eyes with no other colors. Someone I knew said she'd seen that color on a couple of army sharpshooters and didn't know if it was coincidence (probably) or not. My classmate's eyes were probably the true blue eyes, and I thought he could look very distant and detached without trying. The mix of colors in the iris is more attractive, I think.
Comment: #59
Posted by: Reader
Fri Feb 24, 2012 7:46 AM
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LW3: SPOT ON! But to the Annies, what is so bad about having a childfree wedding? And why should the bridal party be the ones to spring for a sitter? Their kids, their responsibility. They don't like it? Don't go.
Not every place on this planet should be for kids.
Comment: #60
Posted by: Janie
Fri Feb 24, 2012 7:48 AM
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LW1 - No worries, once your wife finds her own place you can keep the room at whatever temperature you want...I'm sure it will be worth your marriage for a few more degrees of temperature.
Comment: #61
Posted by: Paul W
Fri Feb 24, 2012 7:50 AM
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I can't believe not one person has suggested an alternate answer for the blue/brown eye thing. Artificial insemination. This method has been around to help make babies since the fifties(maybe longer, I just know I heard about it then). The fact that gramps and granny have been close to divorce several times doesn't mean it is because of their kids....it is probably just their marital dynamic. I shudder to think what the letter writer would dig up and blurt out if she became interested in researching her family history.
Comment: #62
Posted by: rill
Fri Feb 24, 2012 8:07 AM
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Nick-The search you typed in had the correct fact pattern - brown-eyed child of blue-eyed parents. However, the answer was for the question in reverse - blue eyed child of brown eyed parents. I don't think this was a typo on your part because I found a similar site where they had two questions, one with each fact pattern, but only answered the blue eyed child of brown eyed parent question.
From my quick research, it appears that it can happen but is very rare, and is usually a mutation. So that got me to wondering if such a mutation is more or less likely to occur more than once in the same family then in the general population, since the mother and two of her brothers have brown eyes. Don't know the answer to that one.
Comment: #63
Posted by: C Meier
Fri Feb 24, 2012 8:08 AM
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My grandparents both had blue eyes. At least two of the kids, including my mother, had brown eyes. My ex's family all had blue eyes except him, he had brown eyes. Our daughter has beautiful blue-gray eyes. Seems to me genetics aren't so cut and dry.
Comment: #64
Posted by: Krystyne
Fri Feb 24, 2012 8:12 AM
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LW1 - I'm with you. I think the wife is being selfish by her actions. There are meds out there that can help with the hot flashes. Now if she is on them and they aren't helping, that's a different story - but for her to expect everyone to suffer so she can be comfortable is just rude.
LW3 - Parents should know if they can control their children at a wedding. At my wedding, my new niece was 3 years old. She ran around with tootsie roll drool running down her face and would scream when it was gone. Her grandmother (my new MIL) wanted me to include her in the wedding as the flower girl. I held firm and said no. The bottom line is this - if a child can behave in public, then let them come. If the child can't - they get to stay home. Asking the bride and groom to pay for childcare is too much, in my opinion.
BTW - I am a female.
Comment: #65
Posted by: corin
Fri Feb 24, 2012 8:33 AM
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I suffered with hot flashes for years. I was also concerned about the side affects of being on hrt for a long period of time. My aunt told me to take a low dose of vitamin E in the morning and then another one at night. It worked. I have suggested to many friends and family members and every one that has tried has had the same result. No more hot flashes. It takes a couple of weeks until they are completely gone. I asked my OBgyn and she said it is a great remedy that works!
Comment: #66
Posted by: Jill
Fri Feb 24, 2012 9:02 AM
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LW1 - I went thru menopause at 34 (surgically) but was already having the hot flashes and night sweats beforehand. I looked about 10 years younger, so it confused people when I would say I was having a hot flash, or they would just think I was being funny. Well, it was not funny. One day I came back to my office after lunch on a hot summer day completely on fire and the office felt like an oven (to me). I start cussing, totally not normal for me but I was beyond uncomfortable, and ask why the air conditioner is not on. Well, I look around and realize all of my office mates are in their coats because the air is on, full blast. I could not feel it. That is how intense hot flashes are. I am happy to say they tapered off after about four or five years and now I'm usually cooler than warmer. I even sleep with an electric blankt again in winter. I was the electric blanket for awhile!
LW2 - My mom and sisters have beautiful brown eyes, my dad has cool blue eyes, but I have green eyes that sometimes turn hazel. I am the only person in my whole family with eyes that are not blue or brown. Did my mom go out on my dad? Unlikely. I strongly resemble both of my parents. I give my dad grief for giving me miniature versions of his feet (identical!), but I also have an exact copy of my moms teeth. We noticed it one day when we were checking my recent dental work in a mirror. I also have their mannerisms, skin color, etc. Genetics are not cut and dried. I agree with the person who suggested you get off of your high horse.
Comment: #67
Posted by: My Two Cents
Fri Feb 24, 2012 9:06 AM
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Re: limniade
Just as an FYI, in spots in Upstate NY it DOES get MUCH colder than 20 degrees...especially in Northern NY along the Canadian border. However, they are blessed with not having the wind chill like I got to deal with as a kid growing up in Illinois....
Comment: #68
Posted by: Janie
Fri Feb 24, 2012 9:09 AM
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It's entirely possible the biology class kid's mother and her siblings were conceived by artificial insemination.
Comment: #69
Posted by: nonegiven
Fri Feb 24, 2012 9:31 AM
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LW1 - I'm quite sure, based on your attitude, that your wife is looking for an apartment for more reasons than temperature control.
I'm going to try the Vitamin E suggestion, but want to share the only (non-HRT) alternative that has worked for me. Gabapentin is a well-known medication used for decades to prevent epileptic seizures, so there's a lot of data confirming that it's very safe and not contraindicated for other medications. I went from literally stripping my clothes off every 45 minutes (thank God I work from home!) to a few flashes a week.
Comment: #70
Posted by: Logical
Fri Feb 24, 2012 10:04 AM
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Read an interesting article on eye color a few years ago. Blue eyes are a malfunction in the DNA. The default eye color is brown, and if we have blue/gray/green, etc. eyes, we have that genetic malfunction. Moreover, all of us light-eyed people are probably descended from the same woman back 20-30,000 years ago.
Comment: #71
Posted by: Pat Lang
Fri Feb 24, 2012 10:23 AM
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I will add my voice to the eye-color controversy. My husband and I both have brown eyes, so I assumed that both our sons would have brown eyes, too. Wrong. My older boy has brown eyes, but my younger one has hazel eyes. I really was quite surprised that that happened, but I guess I shouldn't be. Genetics are tricky, and the number of responses I have read on this column only confirms it. (Both my husband and I have one blue-eyed parent; maybe that had something to do with it!)
Comment: #72
Posted by: JMG
Fri Feb 24, 2012 10:54 AM
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Re LW1: I'm mildly suspicious that LW1 is actually the wife, just because I find it hard to believe a guy, no matter how much of a jerk he is, would be stupid enough to write a letter like that. But whoever wrote it, if the facts are remotely close to the truth, the husband is being an idiot.
Comment: #73
Posted by: dave
Fri Feb 24, 2012 11:55 AM
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Re: nonegiven
Assuming Biology Kid is about 18 or 19, that would probably make his/her grandparents at least in their 60's now. I doubt very seriously that artificial insemination was very prevalent at the time the parents were conceived.
Comment: #74
Posted by: Kitty
Fri Feb 24, 2012 12:25 PM
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LW1 - Tell you what. Come join me and my family up here at 5,400 feet, where dropping below zero several times during cold snaps in the winter is common. We sometimes drop as low as -20.
The gas bill in our 1,040 sq. ft. home shoots up to about $150-200 during January (coldest month of the year), in part thanks to how this state likes to jack the rates when they know people need to use a gas furnace the most. That's in addition to banning wood burning on the coldest days, justifying it as controlling air pollution.
Oh and that's with us using a programmable thermostat that heats the house at 68 when we're all home during the day and drops it to 65 at night. Even at 68, we still end up using electric room heaters here and there because even if we cranked the thermostat to your balmy 74, it still feels chilly from the humidity, the wind, or whatever else is going on outside. So you can imagine how much it would cost to keep your precious house at 74 degrees around the clock in my neck of the woods... I guarantee in the mountain towns a couple thousand feet higher it's worse.
Maybe if you lived like we do, you'll get some perspective. Then again, with how insensitive and self-entitled you sound, maybe not. I'm in agreement with those who say there's probably LOTS more reasons your wife wants her own apartment, and if that's the case, I have a hard time blaming her.
This is one of those times I'm glad my MIL was TMI about this part of her life, because my husband will remember those things and not give me crap about it when I'm older.
LW2 - Even Wikipedia gives enough of a run-down about eye color and genetics to make it clear two blue-eyed parents can have brown-eyed children. I don't care if the LW took a college-level biology class - it was probably a 101-level course, which if memory serves me well skims the surface on genetics. The 300-level I took in genetics during my senior year was a lot more revealing on the subject... I still remember a couple of students saying they had family members who didn't resemble anyone they knew, but after uncovering a photo of an aunt or cousin from a few generations back, bingo, they found the connection.
Oh and because we only started taking photographs in the late 1800s, because not everyone could afford a painted or drawn portrait of themselves or their relatives prior to that, and because we didn't have color photography until much later, sometimes we may never know where an inherited trait will pop up or where it came from. It is what it is.
Yes, it's rare for blue-eyed parents to have children with different hued eyes. Does that fact alone mean it's not plausible for the LW's family? Of course not.
Sure, all right, maybe the LW's mother was adopted... OK, maybe someone used a turkey baster once upon a time. Or, maybe it's just not the LW's business! Even if those things were true, exactly what would the LW hope to gain from finding out? What is she really hoping to find or prove here?
LW3 - I agree for weddings there should be a sitter for younger kids. It's generous if the wedding party can supply one, but I also think sarah morrow makes a good point in that maybe the parent (or parents) whose kids will be guests should chip in to provide one, especially since a lot of parents feel entitled to pressure the bride and groom to include their angels, without considering that weddings are BORING for a lot of kids!
I can't imagine how much more enjoyable it would be if someone had a movie and coloring books in a separate room from the reception for the little ones to enjoy while the grownups get to dance the night away with no worries. That sounds like a win-win to me.
Comment: #75
Posted by: PS
Fri Feb 24, 2012 1:29 PM
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RE: LW1 -- Amazingly enough, a menopause question where I didn't want to smack the Annies upside the head after reading it. I am one of those people who is always cold. If the thermostat is at 68 or even 70, I'm cold. I'm not comfortable unless it's more like 74. I live in a warm-weather state where everyone CRANKS the A/C all the time, and it drives me crazy when I dress for the weather outside, then I go inside and freeze my buns off. I've learned to wear layers, bring a coat, etc. I used to work in an office where the boss was one of those people who is hot if it's above 68. He would always tell me, "well, wear a sweater." Sounds reasonable enough -- but I'm a reporter, which means I need to be able to type. I can't type with mittens on, I can't type with gloves on, and I can't type if I have to sit on my hands to warm them up. That means I'm pretty useless to him if I can't get warm.
But despite all that, I STILL agree with everyone who told the LW to just put some extra clothes on. Unless he's doing something that requires fine motor skills (typing, making jewelry, what have you), he can put on some extra clothes. But I do feel for him (only a little bit) because I know even when I've put on extra layers, the one thing that always stays cold is my nose, and there just doesn't seem to be any way to fix that, short of wearing a ski mask, and seriously, I don't want to wear one of those inside (in fact, I don't want to wear one of those, period). And for as silly as it sounds, it is really uncomfortable to have a cold nose!
Comment: #76
Posted by: Lisa
Fri Feb 24, 2012 2:31 PM
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LW2 -- You say you want to know your biological family. I say you just want to be a drama queen. I am betting (though no way of knowing this from your letter) that you don't like your family, or some members of it, so you're hoping maybe your "real" family is better than the one you've got, thus the desire to find your biological family. And all I can say to that is, be careful what you wish for...
Comment: #77
Posted by: Lisa
Fri Feb 24, 2012 2:35 PM
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Dear Annie- to the man complaining about his wifes hotflashes- he siad he 'likes to walk around in a tee shirt'... Well, i'm sure his wife would 'like' to walk around not feeling like she is roasting from the inside out! Not only is he insensitive, he's selfish! Just because he 'pays the mortgage' doesn't and shouldn't mean he has control over everything! If his wife does all the laundry does that mean she can tell him what to wear? Mr.- you need to grow up and be considerate. It's not like she is choosing to feel this way. I suggest to the wife to try some of the natural products. Black cohosh is helpful and also phyto-estrogen creme ( has black cohosh in it). There is only so much a person can do to cool down- for the chilly ones: bundle up and wear a hat!
Fed up with whining men!
Comment: #78
Posted by: l.abbott
Fri Feb 24, 2012 4:26 PM
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LW1: Good thing Janie is looking for an apartment because who would want to remain married to an insensitive clod who thinks paying the mortgage makes him dictator of the home and the people in it? Good lord, I can't believe marriage means so little to people that hot flashes is the end of it all. Most women will go through hot flashes at some point during menopause. It's not forever, and if hubby can't be understanding, then he is not worth being married to. At least she was thoughtful enough to buy everyone slippers. You could compromise by buying fans for the home, which is cheap, and perhaps sleep in different rooms sometimes, so she can use the fan at night. But it's a moot point since the writer is a lousy husband. I cannot in a million years imagine my hubby acting like that when it's my time to have flashes.
LW2: Writer sounds like a brat. What, you Wikipedia'd it and now think you are a genetic physicist? Get a clue. Grow up. Do some actual research, then see how right you are before you go around spreading rumors in your family and creating disasters.
Comment: #79
Posted by: Salty
Fri Feb 24, 2012 7:30 PM
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Note to self: Go buy some vitamin E, pronto! Thanks for the great tip.
@Janie: I know NY State gets colder than 20, but since the LW specifically referred to 20 degrees, that's what I used as a reference for my smart remark.
Re: IVF: Unless Grandma giving birth after 1978 (unlikely if her grandkids are old enough to write into advice columns), she wasn't using IVF because it wasn't invented yet. The first successful IVF baby was born in '78. And I actually remember, vaguely, the controversy surrounding that method. People actually wondered if IVF babies were really human or had souls. Bizarre.
Comment: #80
Posted by: limniade
Fri Feb 24, 2012 7:45 PM
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Regarding the wedding photographer -- I've seen drunks at wedding receptions do the exact same things the toddlers have done in his stories....and worse. Allowing kids to attend doesn't necessarily mean the reception will be ruined. Anyone attending can do that for the bride and groom.
Comment: #81
Posted by: Su
Fri Feb 24, 2012 7:56 PM
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@wkh
You can find me on Delphi... Perhaps we can go for a nice Guiness at Hurley's!
I find that my comfortable zone is not the same whether we're talking indoors or outdoors. 68-70F outdoors is FINE. But that's because I don't mind wearing gloves if necessary outdoors. Whereas indoors... I'm with Lisa, I cannot make or renovate jewellery or toys with gloves on - even magic gloves! My personal ideal temperature is around 75F, both in and out.
Also, I find that my extremeties pretty much rule what temperature I need to be comfortable. If my hands, my feet or my ears are cold, I'm cold everywhere. Brrrrr. If the said extremeties are happy... I can walk around in a jean jacket over a sweater in sub-zero temperatures FINE, as long as my head, hands and feet are toasty warm.
After checking the Farenheit/Celsius conversion, I find that 68F is less cold than I though and that I don't need gloves at that tenperature (more likely at 62-65F), unless it's outdoors and very windy... but I definitely do need socks. I don't doubt that is half LW1's problem. If he would only wear cotton socks, methinks he would find himself a lot more comfortable in cooler temperatures.
Comment: #82
Posted by: Lise Brouillette
Fri Feb 24, 2012 8:08 PM
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Re: wkh
You are a insufferable halfwitted moron, if you even pretend to think what you just said is correct.
Comment: #83
Posted by: kathyw
Fri Feb 24, 2012 9:56 PM
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Re: wkh
You are a insufferable halfwitted moron, if you even pretend to think what you just said is correct.
Comment: #84
Posted by: kathyw
Fri Feb 24, 2012 9:56 PM
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Re: Salty
In fact, even Wikipedia contradicts her (post #8). Another thing it said, is that the popular belief about recessive and dominant genes had been contradicted by recent research. I don't know what kind of keywords she used to get the "results" she allegedly got. A d her biology class sounds like it was taken a very long time ago, or given by people who are so not up to date it amounts to misinformation.
@kathyw
You do not have the right to attack someone based on the fact that they are comfortable at a different temperature than you are. Newsflash - you are not the centre of the universe and your comfort zone is not a universal criterion.
Comment: #85
Posted by: Lise Brouillette
Fri Feb 24, 2012 10:21 PM
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Re: alien07110 '...wear warm clothes when visiting us in warm weather.'
ACCKKK!!!! should read 'cold weather.'
Comment: #86
Posted by: alien07110
Sat Feb 25, 2012 4:58 AM
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jennylee, you are right. i meant the wife, not the letter writer.
i am surprised at the number of posters who are citing wikipedia as a source. ANYONE can post an entry on wikipedia and there are no guarantees that what they post is correct. if i were a teacher, i would require back up verification on any statement from wikipedia. happily, i'm not. that sounds like too much work.
Comment: #87
Posted by: alien07110
Sat Feb 25, 2012 5:11 AM
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LW1: It's idiots all around today. Your wife is a moron. You're a moron. And you wrote in to morons. You're fighting over 4 degrees and your wife is looking to leave you for it. Let her go and hope she can afford an apartment on her own. Just think when push comes to shove you get to keep the house. Congrats.
LW2: Don't breed. Ever.
LW3: It should be up to the bride and groom who gets invited PERIOD.
Comment: #88
Posted by: Diana
Sun Feb 26, 2012 3:14 PM
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nonegiven #69 / Kitty #74 / limniade #80
I'm sure you are only having a bit of fun, but do remember the difference between artificial insemination and IVF. Artificial insemination was first reported/tried in 1790s, and became more successful in the 1950s.
Comment: #89
Posted by: Beguiling Miss Pasko
Mon Feb 27, 2012 7:42 AM
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