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Dear Annie: I am a 44-year-old guy who wears his heart on his sleeve. I met "Lisa" two years ago. I was fresh out of a divorce. Lisa was in terrible shape. Her mother had just died, and shortly after, she lost her fiance in a traffic accident. Then she moved back home to take care of her ailing father.
It was love at first sight for me. But Lisa never fully grieved over her fiance. She told me he was her "soul mate," and that she would never love another man the way she loved him. I told her I have all the patience in the world and would be there for her through her grief and sorrow. I knew she needed to deal with this in her own way, which included getting his name tattooed on her back. Again, I was patient and understanding.
Lisa's family began inviting me to their home. But her family had been exceptionally close to her fiance and began posting things on Facebook to remind Lisa of him. It finally reached the point where I had to say something, and I talked to Lisa's cousin. I said posting such things keeps the fiance's memory fresh in Lisa's mind, which doesn't help her heal. I asked the cousin to please get the family to stop doing this. Well, my request got back to Lisa, who became hostile and negative toward me. She broke things off.
Annie, I love Lisa with every ounce of my being. Was I wrong to speak up? — Lonely and Still in Love
Dear Lonely: You meant well, but talking to Lisa's cousin was inappropriate and appeared as if you were going behind her back and being controlling. Lisa has had a rough time. Regardless of what her family was posting online, she wasn't ready to get back into the dating pool. It's also likely that she will always connect you to this unfortunate time. Please move on. This ship has sailed.
Dear Annie: I am an adopted 14-year-old and an only child. I would like to get in touch with my biological family. Everybody tells me to wait until I am 18, but I feel I should be able to contact at least one biological parent. From what my adoptive mom tells me, I have an older brother. I was also told that my parents tried to find my biological father, but out of the five names listed on the adoption papers, none of them matched.
Is there any way to contact my family? Even if I can't find my mom, is there a way I could find my brother and speak with him? — Adopted in Arizona
Dear Arizona: Please do not do this without the support of your family. Finding biological parents and siblings is not always the joyful reunion you dream of, and sometimes things don't turn out well. It also can be hurtful to your adoptive parents if your relationship with them is undergoing changes, as it often does during the teen years, and you think your biological family will be "better." There is a reason reputable organizations insist that you be 18 or older to search. Please ask your parents for help with the International Soundex Reunion Registry (isrr.org).
Dear Annie: "Pining for Rome" complains, "The foods and pastimes that I've become fond of are nonexistent in America." Nonsense.
Granted, she may not see games of bocce ball going on in the local park or find abbacchio brodettato on the menu at Denny's, but in this global world, all the things available in Rome are available in the USA. She can go to an Italian market, buy a good Italian cookbook and learn to make gallina alla vernaccia herself. Many Italian markets also sell bocce ball sets, so she could start her own games. — Second-Generation Italian
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LW3 refers to the first letter on 23 January 2013.
Comment: #1
Posted by: Miss Pasko
Sun Apr 7, 2013 10:35 PM
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LW1, the Annies have this one correct: once it became clear she was still grieving, you should have backed out of the relationship right then and there, telling her that you'd love to date her again at some point in the future when she was free and clear and over her feelings. Grieving takes time, and different amounts of time for different people. While I know you say you "wear your heart on your sleeve", in this case you were putting your own feelings above hers by continuing to date her despite all the clear signs that she was struggling with residual feelings of loss and grief.
Chalk this one up to a life lesson learned, and move on. For your sake as well as hers.
Comment: #2
Posted by: Mike H
Mon Apr 8, 2013 3:06 AM
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LW2, this is a case where these rules are in place because of the prior experience of hundreds, even thousands of adoptees and their families. Please do try to be patient and work with your family to plan finding your biological family when you turn 18. Understand that the Annies are right that your potential reunion with a biological parent or brother may not be smooth or even happy at all. What you might do between now and then is read about the experiences of other people in your situation, talk to a counselor about your feelings and to prepare, and maybe to even write the occasional letter to your biological family, to get out your feelings about this process. Then, when you turn 18 or your family feels you're ready, you'll all work on this together.
LW3, it's possible that the original LW was from an area which doesn't really have access to those kinds of things the same way other cities may have. "Going to an Italian market" may mean a day trip (or longer!) rather than a quick zip to the corner grocery. And it's never quite the same, which is really what the original LW was dealing with -- how such a big experience changed her life and LW was still having trouble adjusting to life back home.
Comment: #3
Posted by: Mike H
Mon Apr 8, 2013 3:18 AM
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The way Lisa is grieving for this person, she may never get over it. The Annie's were right. As for the Italian Market suggestion, not everyone lives in a major US city where an Italian Market is available. The Letter Writer may not have that option.
Comment: #4
Posted by: Wordsworth
Mon Apr 8, 2013 3:20 AM
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LW1 - Unfortunately, I have to agree with the Annies and the other posters. The LW blew his chances with Lisa by not allowing her to work through the grieving process before coming on strong with her and by going behind her back to advise her cousin to stop the postings on Facebook about her fiance. He should chalk this one up to experience and move on.
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LW2 - The Annies are correct on this one too. People give up their children for adoption for a variety of reasons, and not all of them or the siblings the LW may find will be happy to be contacted at this point in their lives. The LW should make sure he has the support of his/her adoptive parents before trying to contact them, and should also wait a few years to make sure that he/she is mature enough to handle whatever comes from it.
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LW3 - I would think that only the larger metropolitan areas would have Italian markets or other stores. If the LW lives in a smaller community, it might not be easy to get the items suggested by the Annies. Of course, there is always the Internet, and the original LW could definitely check to see if it's possible to order the items she wants on line.
Comment: #5
Posted by: Kitty
Mon Apr 8, 2013 3:54 AM
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LW1 - You shouldn't have bothered to pursue Lisa when she told you flat out that she was grieving over the loss of her fiance. She probably only dated you for companionship and was yearning for a friend. But you can go back and re-do the past. Let Lisa go. She needs to grieve for her loss before moving on. If you meet another woman who tells you that her heart belongs to another...let her go.
LW2 - I agree that you should wait until you are 18. Talk to your parents about your plans on looking for them in the future. But please keep in mind that a potential reunion may not be what you hope it will be. Just be prepared that everything won't be roses and rainbows.
Comment: #6
Posted by: Michelle
Mon Apr 8, 2013 4:05 AM
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LW3 - Regarding Italian markets...I live in a big city (in the outskirts) and there is an Italian market downtown but I rarely go to it because it's a pain to get there. First of all, it's hard to find a parking spot on the street. You could park in one of the garages, but that's a lot of money for one trip to the market. The bus route requres 2 to 3 changes. Again...not something I want to bother with for 1 trip to the market. I will go about twice a year, but that's only because I'm in that part of the city for something else and I'll stop by.
Comment: #7
Posted by: Michelle
Mon Apr 8, 2013 4:08 AM
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Oh, Lord...i meant to say to LW 1 you CAN'T go back back and re-do the past. So much for proofreading!
Comment: #8
Posted by: Michelle
Mon Apr 8, 2013 4:09 AM
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LW1--You say you wear your heart on your sleeve but what I think is that you're a man who can't take no for an answer and who likes to play Prince Charming and rescue princesses who are trapped in various emotional towers. You really picked the prize with 'Lisa' whose fiance and "soul mate" just died and whose caring for a dying father. Could you find a more vulnerable woman? Look, people want what they can't have. Lisa told you point blank that she can never love another like she did her fiance. Does she need to draw you a picture? Stop meddling in her life by asking her relatives to intercede on your behalf and trying to impose a social media blackout on the dead fiance! And stop laying on the emotional blackmail by telling Lisa how you'll always love her with every fiber of your being (puke!) She has enough on her plate without having to contend with your pathetic groveling! Do Lisa a favor and drop her, then get into counseling to figure out why you're so clingy and needy and unable to form relationships with women who are emotionally available. I would love to hear what your ex-wife has to say about your marriage with her.
LW2--Not to seem cruel but has it occurred to you that your adoptive family doesn't want to be found? For every happy reunion there are just as many horror stories about biological parents or other family members who were less than thrilled when a long forgotten relative showed up on their doorstep. At 14 years old, you are not emotionally equipped to deal with such a crushing blow. Either take the Annies advice and get the full support and blessing of your adoptive family, or wait until you're older and better able to handle the outcome. It seems like you have a wonderful family already. Blood is not the defining factor.
Comment: #9
Posted by: Chris
Mon Apr 8, 2013 5:37 AM
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LW1: Without knowing the LW's persona and motivations -- we don't really know if he is someone who "rescues 'princesses' from emotional towers, as Chris suggests, or if he's unwittingly that way -- and short on time today, I'll keep it short.
Basically, what everyone else said. Move on and learn from the experience.
LW2: Pretty much what everyone else says -- wait until you're a little older or are assured of the support of your adoptive family.
Comment: #10
Posted by: Bobaloo
Mon Apr 8, 2013 5:53 AM
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LW1 - so, " I have all the patience in the world " actually means only about 2 years worth? Let's face it. Lisa isn't moving fast enough for your time table, and she doesn't appreciate your pushing her along or interfering with her family. You don't "appear " controlling and like someone who would go behind her back; you "are" controlling and did go behind her back when you talked to her cousin about facebook. Suggest you start believing Lisa when she talks. She told you she would never love anyone (that means YOU) the way she loved her fiancee. Now she has told you to go away. So go away. The next time a woman tells you she will never love you as much as she loved someone else, pay attention. Believe them. You do not know better. Just because you want something to be true, doesn't mean that it is true or that it will become true.
LW2 - "is there a way to contact my family?" Yes, they live in the same house with you. Go talk to them. The people who raised you are your family. You have no way of knowing if your bio family even wants to talk to you or acknowledge your existence. They are not necessarily family in the sense that they will love you & be glad to see you & interested in your life. The grass is not always greener. Be glad that the family you live with loves you & tries to do their best by you. Wait until you are 18 & then look into your bio family. I know that 4 years is more than 25% of your life & seems like a long time, but pay attention to the reputable organizations who have helped thousands of people find their bio family & wait.
Comment: #11
Posted by: kai archie
Mon Apr 8, 2013 6:15 AM
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LW1 -
You "finally reached the point", heh? So you're not so patient and understanding after all.
Look. It may have been love at first sight for you, but Lisa was in the middle of a number of things and she wasn't ready for anything serious. You cannot force her to "fully grieve" for her fiance. You cannot forcer her family to turn the page and let go. And you certainly have no place dictating to them what they may post on their FB page - that was vastly out of line.
And what did LIsa think of her family's FB postings? You also had no business of going behind her back to dictate to them, which is why the shit hit the fan when it "got back" to her. Frankly, what did you expect, that they were going to cover for you?
You were not married to this woman, your were not engaged to her, you were not living with her. She evidently only wanted companionship at that point and you should have let her come to terms with her own bereavement in her own time. If she hadn't wanted to be reminded of her lost fiance by her family, she would have told them herself. What you did was unacceptable to her and now she's gone. Move on.
And btw, you had only been divorced two months when you fell head over heels for Lisa? Sure looks like a desperate attempt to rehook ASAP, which would explain why you were trying so hard to push a square peg into a round hole. It's not Lisa that you love so much "with every ounce of your being", because you knew nothing about her when 'love at first sight' hit you like a sledgehammer. It's the idea of being in a couple again.
I may very well be that you haven't "fully grieved" for the loss of your marriage yourself, and that you've been desperately hunting for a replacement wife. What you call "wearing your heart on your sleeve" is more likely to be perceived as needy and controlling. I would suggest you explore that angle with a counsellor, lest you again fall head over heels in "love at first sight" with a woman you know nothing about and who is not ready to date, and spook her off again by making inappropriate demands.
Comment: #12
Posted by: Lise Brouillette
Mon Apr 8, 2013 6:31 AM
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Regarding the Italian, searching 'Italian-American' on your local Meetup might find you groups that share interests in the same culture and activities.
Comment: #13
Posted by: Mary Lynn
Mon Apr 8, 2013 6:42 AM
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LW1- Wow... heart on your sleeve? As long as it conforms to your guidelines. Grieving is different for everyone, meaning it could be a month or several years. Including family and friends who are close to the one lost. You didn't contact her cousin about the FB postings because you were worried about Lisa, you made demands with her family because it was about you. You hope Lisa will get over her fiance so you can move on in. You were demanding that not only Lisa get over the loss, but her family as well. You are an extremely selfish human being because it is not about anyone else, but rather what is good for you. Heart on your sleeve? Yeah, not any farther than your own nose.
Comment: #14
Posted by: jajjaaj
Mon Apr 8, 2013 6:50 AM
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Re: Lise Brouillette (#12)
"And what did LIsa think of her family's FB postings? You also had no business of going behind her back to dictate to them, which is why the shit hit the fan when it "got back" to her. Frankly, what did you expect, that they were going to cover for you?"
While he indeed doesn't say what a specific family member – in this case, Lisa's cousin – may have said to him directly, I'd bet that the fact that it got back to Lisa speaks volumes of what they thought of his remarks about the Facebook postings. (I wouldn't be surprised if his friends count went down by a few, and that some blocks are in place.)
I guess if there's anything else I can add to this letter, it is that someone like Lisa may *never* quite get over grieving a lost one such as Lisa's fiancé. He (the fiancé) could have been the love of her life, given how deep her grief appears to be, and it's apparent the LW didn't grasp that.
Yeah, she may need counseling (and FWIW, it may be worth it for her, but it's got to be her decision), but just as it is not up to us to "make her go," it surely wasn't up to the LW to state how or if she gets it or how else she grieves otherwise.
Comment: #15
Posted by: Bobaloo
Mon Apr 8, 2013 7:42 AM
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@LW1: This has stalker situation written all over it. I hope for his sake, and hers, he is able to let her go and move on.
Comment: #16
Posted by: Casey
Mon Apr 8, 2013 7:50 AM
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LW1: What Chris said.
Comment: #17
Posted by: Casey
Mon Apr 8, 2013 7:56 AM
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Re: Bobaloo
"it's apparent the LW didn't grasp that."
Frankly, I don't think he cares that she's grieving, As far as he's concerned, she should just get a hold of herself and get over it pronto, because HE wants her for himself, and cares for little else. All these tales of how understanding and patient he's been only sound like "Look, I've been good and patiently allowed you to indulge, now that's enough nonsense, let's get back what really matters here: ME".
And frankly, I don't see anything out of the ordinary that absolutely warrants counselling on her part here. She seems to be going through the normal process of grief - not everyone snaps out of it after a few months, some people need a few years.
Him, on the other hand... I think he needs counselling a lot more than she does. He seems remarkably insensitive of other people's feelings, all the while going for a woman who evidently could use plenty of support. He went for her because she was vulnerable, and he cares nothing about how she feels, he only cares about what he wants out of her. Rather self-centred, if you ask me! I'd be curious to know who asked for divorce in his marriage, and why.
Comment: #18
Posted by: Lise Brouillette
Mon Apr 8, 2013 8:02 AM
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Re LW#1------
All I can say is, God preserve us from people like you who are there to 'help us through our grief'.
You say you wear your heart on your sleeve; you met her BEFORE her fiance died, and it was 'love at first sight' for you, even though she currently had a living fiance that she was in love with.
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So don't try to convince us that your motive was to 'help her through her grief'. Your motive, in a nutshell, was to be right there pushing and pushing, and staking a claim to her so that as soon as she was 'ready', you could pounce. And you got impatient, because not only did she show no signs of forgetting him and falling for you, but her family was not assisting you, but instead helping her to get through the grieving process in her own way. So you stuck your nose in, tried to tell them what to do, and it backfired. Good.
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She didn't need someone who was hovering nearby being 'patient and understanding'------she needed someone without ulterior motives. Her family was there for that, but you got upset that they were not pushing her in your direction------or in anyone's direction, since she was not ready. (And even if/when she is ready, it may not be you she chooses. You sound like a vulture waiting till the time is right to attack and start feeding.
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(Sorry, but this strikes a bad chord with me------people with their own motives insisting they are just there to 'help'.
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Comment: #19
Posted by: jennylee
Mon Apr 8, 2013 8:15 AM
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Re: jennylee
Or, they there to help indeed - to help themselves.
Comment: #20
Posted by: Lise Brouillette
Mon Apr 8, 2013 8:20 AM
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Does anyone know why Nanchan doesn't post anymore? Don't get me wrong as BTL has been much less tense since she stopped posting but I looked back and couldn't find an argument so bad that she would suddenly stop posting. I have on occasion supported her but I drew the line when over the last few months she became hostile towards a lot of people up to and including but not limited to calling Kitty “Shitty” and Maggie “Saggy” and then blamed it on her daughter so I don't miss her or the discord she brought to the table. I'm just curious as to why she finally left.
Comment: #21
Posted by: JustBecause
Mon Apr 8, 2013 9:15 AM
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Re: Lise Brouillette (#18)
For my part, I don't think she'll ever totally get over her fiancé's death, which is her right.
I mean, maybe she will, but I hope what I was getting at was how she lets go of her grief has got to be her own thing, and it needs to be respected. By everyone involved. Period.
Whatever his motivation is – and frankly, my dear, I don't think we should give a damn what his motivation was, whether pure or selfish – the fact was, the LW sure did not respect it.
Comment: #22
Posted by: Bobaloo
Mon Apr 8, 2013 9:23 AM
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LW1
To me you sound like someone with very low self esteem who doesn't feel worthy of a reciprocal relationship - hence choosing women who are very vulnerable and needy in an attempt to "buy" their love by playing the hero. Somewhere within yourself you feel that if do enough to "save" them they will be bound to you and not leave or reject you.
LW2
I hope you are reading and taking to heart the solid advice offered by both the Annies and BTL posters today.
LW3
I've found it's very difficult if not impossible to recreate the exact tastes and flavors of dishes of some regional cuisines if you can't purchase locally grown produce and other ingredients actually produced in that region. Also, professional kitchen equipment would be helpful in many cases when trying to duplicate restaurant food. Anyway, you can give it a shot and may be able to come pretty close.
Comment: #23
Posted by: EstherGreenwood
Mon Apr 8, 2013 9:34 AM
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LW1: Chris nailed this one.
LW2: Make some good friends and take everyone's advice to wait until you are 18. Your curiosity is natural; however, there are reasons why you are not with your biological parents and you may not like what you discover. You have a wonderful, drama-free life thanks to your adoptive parents and the good decision that your bio parent(s) made to ensure that you have this great life.
Comment: #24
Posted by: PuaHone
Mon Apr 8, 2013 9:43 AM
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LW1- I'm with everyone else. You pushed and pushed and now you pushed her away.
Comment: #25
Posted by: JustBecause
Mon Apr 8, 2013 9:48 AM
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Re: jennylee (#19)
Just a friendly correction, but it sounds like he met Lisa just *after* her fiance died, not before. (Whether he knew her beforehand and decided to make his move to procure a relationship when she became "available," I don't know and I don't care).
And might I say, it is quite something to lose two people close to you, boom-boom. Which I wonder if he really understood? (Yes, Lise, I can hear you say now, "No, he did not.") Don't get me wrong, I've never worn Lisa's shoes – and hope I never will have to – so I could never know exactly what she's going through. And I've never asked out a grieving woman, either ... wouldn't feel comfortable doing so.
But that doesn't mean I can't be unsympathetic and suggest what I've said already – move on and learn from this experience, and know what NOT to do the next time. I know it's tough, but you're going to have to.
Comment: #26
Posted by: Bobaloo
Mon Apr 8, 2013 10:02 AM
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LW3- There are some excellent suggestions above for using the internet to find Italian people in the U.S. Maybe if you find a community where people are from your region in Italy, you could consider moving there. In my local park there were bocce ball areas, and the local Italian men had a club. They met twice a week to play bocce ball and hang out. There is a local mom and pop Italian deli and restaurant, and Italians say that the dishes there are very authentic. So, use the internet to find these things near you, or if there is nothing near you, find out where they are, and plan a move. Also, my brother-in-law communicates with his relatives in Italy on the internet. They trade pictures, too. Before he retired, he worked with a bunch of people from his home town, and they had a social club that sponsored trips to the old country once every other year, which he sometimes goes on. And one time, a group from his home town did a show in downtown Chicago, a living chess game, complete with medieval costumes and live horses! His daughter was able to participate in it, too. So, do some internet searches, and locate your peeps.
Comment: #27
Posted by: Patty Bear
Mon Apr 8, 2013 10:43 AM
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Re: Bobaloo #26
Re #1, you are probably right. He said he met her and fell in love at first sight, and that she had just buried her mother and shortly after, lost her fiance. I took that to mean he met her after her mother's death and that shortly after his meeting her the fiance died-------but it's kind of ambiguous, and it's more likely that both deaths happened just before he met her. He worded it kind of strange.
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That makes it not quite so bad, maybe, but still-----immediately deciding to lust after a grief-stricken woman and pursue her for two years when she keeps saying she's still in love with the dead fiance-------big ulterior motive here. And his later actions in talking to her family have pretty much ruined any chance he had, if he ever had one.
You're right, all he's going to get out of this is a learning experience for next time.
Comment: #28
Posted by: jennylee
Mon Apr 8, 2013 11:06 AM
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Re: Lise Brouillette
Your last two paragraphs in #12 are spot on. I have a friend who "instantly falls in love" from one guy to the next. She will be in a relationship for a few years, they will break up and she'll meet a guy within 24 hours (she's gorgeous and bubbly...she's a man magnet) and within a few days she's telling him she loves him and talks about the future with this guy. She was married for a short time (under 2 years) and when she and her husband decided to divorce, she had a new boyfriend within a day or two. She hadn't even moved out of her and her soon-to-be-ex's home yet! I, too, think she needs to see a counselor why she's so needy for a man. Same with the LW and why he's so needy for a woman.
Comment: #29
Posted by: Michelle
Mon Apr 8, 2013 12:10 PM
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Re: jennylee (#28)
I guess my whole point is, no matter where in the game he began a "relationship" (If he ever truly had one) with her, he acted inappropriately.
I'm just saying that's how I understood the order of the facts. It's not being done for the LW's benefit at all.
That said, "You're right, all he's going to get out of this is a learning experience for next time" is a scary thought if he's the type of guy several BTL'ers are making him out to be.
Comment: #30
Posted by: Bobaloo
Mon Apr 8, 2013 12:51 PM
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Re: JustBecause #21
She didn't specify, didn't slam a door or anything, just stopped posting. Considering she hasn't disappeared from the face of the Earth (she sometimes still posts on Dear Abby Yahoo, and has been known to make a hit & run here lately), we know that she's still reading. I expect she wants us to miss her so that she can effect a triumphant return.
I'm sorry to have to admit I don't miss her at all - for openers, she's always been... how shall I phrase it, consistently unkind towards me and then, there is constant snark and name-calling. That's a high a price to pay for the occasional insight she is capable of exhibiting.
@EstherGreenwood #23
"I've found it's very difficult if not impossible to recreate the exact tastes and flavors of dishes of some regional cuisines if you can't purchase locally grown produce and other ingredients actually produced in that region. Also, professional kitchen equipment would be helpful in many cases when trying to duplicate restaurant food."
Absolutely. You'll come quite close if you duplicate everything else, but it won't be quite the same, because of these subtle differences. All these details are what adds up to the final result - change one component, and a sensitive mouth makes the difference.
@Bobaloo #26
"(Yes, Lise, I can hear you say now, "No, he did not.")"
Nope. You can hear me say "He doesn't give a damn". ;-D
Comment: #31
Posted by: Lise Brouillette
Mon Apr 8, 2013 1:52 PM
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"LW1--You say you wear your heart on your sleeve but what I think is that you're a man who can't take no for an answer and who likes to play Prince Charming and rescue princesses who are trapped in various emotional towers."
Everyone's already said what could be said, but I just really liked this metaphor. Very illustrative.
Comment: #32
Posted by: lilypants
Mon Apr 8, 2013 3:03 PM
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@ Lise (#31) thanks for answering. You and I may not always hit it off but I can agree that she had it out for you, Chris and Zoe
Comment: #33
Posted by: JustBecause
Mon Apr 8, 2013 6:09 PM
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Re: Lise Brouillette (#31)
Yeah, probably.
I guess to sum it up, to me it doesn't matter if he understood or not, whether he cared or, as Clark Gable so eloquently put it, ... what you said ... he screwed up.
On to the next one. (Tomorrow's letters, that is.)
Comment: #34
Posted by: Bobaloo
Mon Apr 8, 2013 6:18 PM
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Re: JustBecause #33
Oh, she still does. She posts on Yahoo, remember? ;-D
Comment: #35
Posted by: Lise Brouillette
Mon Apr 8, 2013 7:17 PM
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REL Chris' post #9..."did it occur to you that your ADOPTIVE FAMILY didn't want to be found?" REALLY? Didn't anybody noticed that, besides me?
Comment: #36
Posted by: Ms Davie
Mon Apr 8, 2013 8:02 PM
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Re: Ms Davie
I'm one of those who didn't notice. Good catch! Chris, ten lashes with the typo noodle!
Comment: #37
Posted by: Lise Brouillette
Mon Apr 8, 2013 8:17 PM
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