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The Law School Game

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One of the most widely circulated articles in The New York Times of late asks: "Is Law School a Losing Game?" For days, it was the most e-mailed story in the paper, and it is still among the Top 10.

The gist is simple enough: It costs well over $40,000 a year just to attend classes at virtually any private law school. Even publicly supported law schools have raised their tuitions dramatically in recent years, on the theory that taxpayers shouldn't have to subsidize the education of students who start earning $160,000 a year as soon as they graduate.

But there's the rub. Not everyone gets one of those jobs. In recent years, an increasing number of law students have not gotten jobs like those, because most large firms (who are the ones paying $160,000 to start) have cut back significantly on new hiring. The idea that you can just walk out of law school and into a six-figure job is, for many students at most schools, a painful fantasy.

There's an enormous amount of Wall Street-style accounting that goes into the reports on employment that law schools submit to the increasingly powerful organizations that rank them. So when you look at the numbers, you might think that almost everyone who goes to a half-decent law school is finding a great job after graduation. Spend any time with law students, and you come to understand that a lot of those jobs are not of the $160,000 variety, even if the schools are claiming that as the average income of their employed graduates.

My first job out of law school paid $13,909. Granted, it was a long time ago. But even then, it was substantially less than what my classmates were making in private practice and barely enough to cover my rent, food, gas and, of course, those student loans.

But so what? I didn't go to law school to make money. If that were my goal, I would've gone to business school, got a job in investment banking and yearned for one of those eight-figure Goldman partnerships.

I went to law school because I believed in the power of law to change people's lives for the better. And I have never been happier, professionally speaking, than when I was making almost no money but believed that what I was doing mattered.

If the primary reason you're applying to law school is because you want one of those $160,000 jobs, don't . Forget it. Like medicine, law used to be a sure-shot to making a very, very good income. Not anymore. The students who apply to med school know that there is no pot of gold waiting. There are many better and easier ways to make money. Kids go to medical school today because they want to be doctors, not because they want to be rich. The same rule should apply to law school.

Law school almost certainly is a losing game if what you care most about is money. In my book, that's probably a good thing. Many of my former students started out in those high-paying jobs and now feel trapped and frustrated. Many who didn't have that option have, through necessity, found careers they enjoy much more.

At a certain point in life, the escalators just stop running. When they do, you have to fend for yourself — decide what you care about, what matters to you, what tradeoffs you are and are not willing to make. That's what being an adult is about. There are no guarantees. We all learn that sooner or later. And learning it in law school does not strike me as a losing game at all.

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Woo Hoo, you go girl. This is one topic we can agree on.


It takes an idiot to go to law school or engineering school if money is the goal. America has stopped rewarding those who create value, like engineers, and now favors government workers who likely create no value at all. I suspect the average government worker actually “works” about 10 to 20 hours a week but gets paid for 40 with almost no expectations of actually creating anything of value.


The biggest problem I have with college in general is that too many professors are liberals. I do not wish to have any part in making the life of a liberal easier. I certainly do not wish to pay even a penny of their inflated salaries. All liberal professors know how to teach is: hate whitey, hate males, and hate conservatives. Why would I wish to subsidize such people?


Kids today would be well advised to obtain the cheapest 4 year degree from an accredited school they can obtain, and if possible, get someone else to pay the costs. Then they should use such degree to get a government job, or become a government run school teacher, or a job in an area that is government funded. These jobs have almost no job performance expectations. In fact, for government run school teachers, the worst one does the more money they get because that is the fix any time a school is failing: throw more money at the problem.


Engineering school is difficult – I received my first 4 year degree in Electrical Engineering. Worked 10 years for companies such as IBM, NCR, and AT&T. Every year, around Christmas, one had to worry about layoffs. It never happened to me but I had to watch many of my friends go. Additionally, while in school, I had to study, hard, almost every night, all night, to be in the top of my class. Many of my friends, whom did not have the grades to get into engineering school, took some liberal arts class and was able to party almost every night. Study for them was a punch line in a joke. Now they have great government jobs that require almost no effort and they are set for life.


Then I decided to go to law school. What A FOOL I WAS. It makes me sick to think of all the money I paid those a-hole liberal professors. I wish there were colleges with only conservative professors. I will likely never make a profit from obtaining a law degree. But you know what, I would not trade the knowledge for getting all my money back.


For all you college age kids out there, if you truly just want to make money, skip college altogether or get a 2 year degree from a community college. If you must attend a 4 year college, find the cheapest accredited school you can find and get someone else to pay if you can. Then get a government job.

And if you are a white male, do not allow all the liberals and all the white hate you will experience on college campus darken your soul.


Comment: #1
Posted by: SusansMirror
Thu Jan 20, 2011 8:46 PM
Once upon a time, being a lawyer was a noble profession.
Comment: #2
Posted by: David Henricks
Thu Jan 20, 2011 11:54 PM
Have you looked at the yellow pages lately? There are almost as many lawyers as there are doctors! Many people probably don't know that years ago it was illegal for lawyers to advertise. Now every other commercial on TV or radio is a lawyer looking to rip off some drug company.
Remember, lawyers don't create wealth, they take from others, kind of like government.
Comment: #3
Posted by: Early
Fri Jan 21, 2011 5:33 AM
90% of this country's problems stem from the fact that this country is ruin by lawyers who make the rules and laws that benefit their btotherhood and big business cronies at the expense if the taxpayers money and freedoms!!!
Comment: #4
Posted by: buffalo1
Fri Jan 21, 2011 8:05 AM
Susan - My newpaper shows your column on the left(and titles it that way) opposite George Will, etc. on the right. For a long time I would simple glance at your writings but then I began noticing titles that grabbed me so I started reading. And I want you to know you are, in my opinion (which probably doesn't mean much to you) one of the smasrtest, and further you are not so far left that things get bent out of shape. I have begun regular reading and am very proud of what you do and the way you view things. This does not mean I have given up on Williams, etc. - just that I am now absorbing something from the point of view of a woman who knows what she speaks about - clearly from research, experience and the way you think. So I just wanted to thank you for what you do and encourage you to continue telling things the way you see them. The best to you lady.
Comment: #5
Posted by: Jim Kennedy
Fri Jan 21, 2011 4:50 PM
A pet peeve of mine is hearing from people what they could have done if that had "really wanted to make money". As if to make it sound like their morals are just too high to make money. HA! I call bull on all that... "Sure I could have won a few Super Bowls had I really wanted to run around and hit people, but I didn't want to hurt other people so..."
Comment: #6
Posted by: scott365
Sat Jan 22, 2011 9:47 AM
I'm over 50 and recently returned to college to finish my BA. It is unbelievable to me how much liberal opinion is presented as factual. I have no problem with robust debate. As a matter of fact I invite it. But based on my recent experience there is no debate. It is very sad in my opinion. I can only imagine that it gets worse as one climbs the academic ladder.
Comment: #7
Posted by: Greg
Sun Jan 23, 2011 7:27 AM
This discussion reminds me of the old adage, "those that can do, those that can't teach. If you get out of law school and can't get a decent job you try to make whatever you do noble. In fact, you arn't able to compete and pay the price. There are ton of young lawyers who graduate every year that are doing good and noble work, and making a ton of money.
Comment: #8
Posted by: Dave Kidd
Tue Jan 25, 2011 8:26 PM
Re: Dave Kidd
You're referring to politicians - "good and noble work, making a ton of money". Right?
Comment: #9
Posted by: Early
Wed Jan 26, 2011 4:45 AM
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