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Undependence Understood

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DEAR SUSAN: My late "Greatest Generation" parents got some things wrong when I was growing up, but one thing they got right is that in marriage or another key relationship, total independence usually leads to misery and loneliness ("freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose"), whereas total dependence usually leads to frustration/anger/violence/addiction — or worse. Only interdependence is sustainable over the long haul. (Thanks again, Dad. I still miss you, but I'm getting by without you. Which, come to think of it, is right on point.) — From the "Single File" blog

DEAR BLOGGER: Wish we all had such a father! The wisdom he passed along must have already proved valuable in your relationships. Clearly, his words are trusted allies as you meander single life, helping you make the choices that can add up to a fulfilling life. They must be proving themselves invaluable in this confusing, unsettled world. (I know they would have spared me much of the pain of trial-and-error widowhood/single parenthood. But then again, from that porridge came "Single File"!) How wonderful to have a parent be mentor as well as caregiver! Which is why your letter touched me — and probably many others.

I can only hope and pray that parents out there in Readerland appreciate your father's legacy and pass it along to their young. (Come to think of it, that's already happening — each time a reader puts into action my Declaration of Undependence, affirming personal wholeness that lovingly strengthens future relationships, whatever they may be.) But make no mistake; this strength isn't about total independence or total dependency. Not at all. Its aim is to build a fully functioning individual who will enter relationships neither dependent nor insular. If the Lebanese poet Kahlil Gibran were standing beside me, he'd speak his piece.

Love one another, but make not a bond of love:

Let it rather be a moving sea between the shores of your souls.

Fill each other's cup but drink not from one cup.

Give one another of your bread but eat not from the same loaf.

Sing and dance together and be joyous, but let each one of you be alone,

Even as the strings of a lute are alone though they quiver with the same music.

Give your hearts, but not into each other's keeping.

For only the hand of Life can contain your hearts.

And stand together yet not too near together:

For the pillars of the temple stand apart,

And the oak tree and the cypress grow not in each other's shadow.

DEAR SUSAN: I have to say I totally agree with you. I know there are people who can be sexually involved with multiple partners and not feel bad about it. But this can only work if the other person feels the same way. Often, the other person doesn't. Even if people know their partner is sleeping with other people and accept it at first, they often find they're not so comfortable with it as they thought they'd be. Susan, you are so right on that point. The very fact that many of these people settle down with one person and remain faithful seems to suggest that monogamy is their ultimate goal. I could never imagine being intimate with more than one person at a time. And I could never accept my partner doing that.

AND FROM THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE BLOGOSPHERE: Oh, Susan, I'm sorry, but you're wrong. It doesn't feel wrong or dirty at all, and many responsible, emotionally mature adults can date and have sex with multiple people for a while. They often then settle into a relationship with a specific person. Casual dating and casual sex don't necessarily mean stupid or irresponsible or dangerous or thought-free. I understand that your personal preference and experience have blocked out this possibility, but as with anything in life, there's a lot more variety out there. And the fact is that plenty of people who only date one person and only have sex with one person can still do stupid and irresponsible or dangerous things. The bottom line is that if you are mature, responsible, consenting, honest and communicative, there is nothing dangerous/bad/thoughtless about having multiple partners. I will agree, however, that if someone is dating multiple partners in an irresponsible or dishonest fashion, then there is absolutely something shady and selfish and wrong about that.

—Both letters are from the "Single File" blog

DEAR READERS: There you have it. Two unmarried men with opposing views on casual sex. (As for me, I've heard from too many casual sex casualties to be impartial on the issue.) But all of us hope that you will weigh in on this important topic.

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Susan, The last two LW's I remember reading them and don't think both were unmarried men, I could be wrong, but think the last one was a woman and that she was now in a monogamous relationship that was going strong. Which method in finding a monogamous relationship, the intimate or multiple, is correct? I don't kinow I'm not the judge. I thourghly enjoy sex and would love to be in a monogamous relationship, however one begins to question if the method they follow is correct since it's not resulting in either. Our core beliefs about morals, values, and sex were estowed into our being sometime early in our life and wonder whether they can be changed without being hurt or hurting another. We learn what hurts and won't; can that be modified? A child learns touching the hot stove bear handed will burn, but it won't wearing a glove. I'm not afraid of the water because I was taught how to swim. When it comes to sex I evidently didn't learn something and I don't think I'm in this boat alone.
Comment: #1
Posted by: J
Fri Jan 6, 2012 4:29 AM
Susan, the comment I wrote for you was posted on Cheryl Lavin's.
Comment: #2
Posted by: J
Sun Jan 8, 2012 8:33 AM
Indpendence is great----------when one learns to accomplish it. It took me till 40 years old to learn it as I had a mother who could never (ever!) forgive me for growing up and leaving her. 20 years later, she is still trying to get me to come home and live with her. She constantly tells me how wrong I do everything and I should do whatever she feels is right. And, damn it! She sure knows how to lay the guilt trip on when I go my own way.
Comment: #3
Posted by: Lila
Sun Jan 8, 2012 8:53 AM
J -- YES, those thought patterns CAN be changed in a way that doesn't hurt others. But it does require conscious effort on our part -- it doesn't just happen and you can't just react to what you feel.

I posted this in response to you on Cheryl Lavin's column:
J, I really, really hope you find a good therapist who can help you work some of this out.

There are some things it's not too tough to figure out on your own, with the help of maybe some internet commenters and a good self-help book, and I hope some of the comments over the years here have helped you.

There are other things that are so embedded in us that we don't realize how much they affect the way we look at the world, or that other people don't see it the same way. A counselor can help you break away from those old thought patterns that are serving only to make you so unhappy, if you're willing to acknowledge that some of the problem lies within and spend time working to change it.

Best wishes.
Comment: #4
Posted by: hedgehog
Sun Jan 8, 2012 4:35 PM
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