Are We Equal?
Are women equal to men? Are Jews equal to gentiles? Are blacks equal to Italians, Irish, Polish and other white people? The answer is probably a big fat no, and the pretense or assumption that we are equal — or should be equal — is foolhardy and creates mischief. Let's look at it.
Male geniuses outnumber female geniuses 7-to-1. Female intelligence is packed much closer to the middle of the bell curve, whereas men's intelligence has far greater variability. That means that though there are many more male geniuses, there are also many more male idiots. The latter might partially explain why more men are in jail than women.
Watch any Saturday afternoon college basketball game and ask yourself the question fixated in the minds of liberals everywhere: "Does this look like America?" Among the 10 players on the court, at best there might be two white players. If you want to see the team's white players, you must look at the bench. A Japanese or Chinese player is close to being totally out of the picture, even on the bench. Professional basketball isn't much better, with 80 percent of the players being black, but at least there's a Chinese player. Professional football isn't much better, with blacks being 65 percent. In both sports, blacks are among the highest-paid players and have the highest number of awards for excellence. Blacks who trace their ancestry to West Africa, including black Americans, hold more than 95 percent of the top times in sprinting.
By contrast, blacks are only 2 percent of the NHL's ice hockey players. But don't fret about black NHL underrepresentation. State underrepresentation is worse. Most U.S. professional hockey players were born in Minnesota, followed by Massachusetts. Not a single U.S. professional hockey player can boast of having been born and raised in Hawaii, Mississippi or Louisiana. Any way we cut it, there is simply no racial proportionality or diversity in professional basketball, football and hockey.
A more emotionally charged question is whether we have equal intelligence. Take Jews, for example. They are only 3 percent of the U.S. population. Half-baked theories of racial proportionality would predict that 3 percent of U.S. Nobel laureates are Jews, but that's way off the mark. Jews constitute a whopping 39 percent of American Nobel Prize winners. At the international level, the disparity is worse. Jews are not even 1 percent of the world's population, but they constitute 20 percent of the world's Nobel Prize winners.
There are many other inequalities and disproportionalities. Asian-Americans routinely score the highest on the math portion of the SAT, whereas blacks score the lowest. Men are 50 percent of the population, and so are women; yet men are struck by lightning six times as often as women. I'm personally wondering what whoever is in charge of lightning has against men. Population statistics for South Dakota, Iowa, Maine, Montana and Vermont show that not even 1 percent of their respective populations is black. By contrast, in Georgia, Alabama and Mississippi, blacks are overrepresented in terms of their percentages in the general population. Pima Indians of Arizona have the world's highest known diabetes rates. Prostate cancer is nearly twice as common among black men as white men. Cervical cancer rates are five times higher among Vietnamese women in the U.S. than among white women.
Soft-minded and sloppy-thinking academics, lawyers and judges harbor the silly notion that but for the fact of discrimination, we'd be proportionately distributed by race across incomes, education, occupations and other outcomes. There is absolutely no evidence anywhere, at any time, that proportionality is the norm anywhere on earth; however, much of our thinking, many of our laws and much of our public policy are based upon proportionality's being the norm. Maybe this vision is held because people believe that equality in fact is necessary for equality before the law. But the only requirement for equality before the law is that one is a human being.
Walter E. Williams is a professor of economics at George Mason University. To find out more about Walter E. Williams and read features by other Creators Syndicate writers and cartoonists, visit the Creators Syndicate Web page at www.creators.com.
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Does Williams actually read his own columns before publishing them? He constantly conflates race with culture, even when it doesn't make any sense. If (as he seem to claim) dark-skinned people are uniquely good basketball and football, then they'd be equally good at hockey. The choice of sports is obviously cultural.
Williams's statements about SAT scores are absurd because they imply that the low score is due to "blackness" rather than the culture from which most black people in the United States emerge. Low income whites don't do any better than low income blacks on the SAT and blacks raised in upper middle-class families do better than either, and comparable to whites raised in the same families.
The key to the stupidity of Williams's thinking is the statement about lightning striking men six times as often. Since that can't possibly be the result gender alone, it MUST be because men are more likely to be outside during a thunderstorm, probably because they are far more likely to have a job that involves working outside. In other words, it's circumstance (i.e. culture), not race, that is the determining factor in every example he cites.
Comment: #1
Posted by: Geoffrey James
Mon Mar 25, 2013 9:45 AM
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So G. James, how do you explain the overwhelming disproportion of Jews as Nobel Prize winners? Or Asians in math achievement?
Comment: #2
Posted by: Maggie Lawrence
Mon Mar 25, 2013 2:13 PM
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Sir; you are the greatest idiot in the world, bar none... Are all dogs equal... Are all horses equal... If all dogs are dogs, and all horse are horses, and all humans are humans, then they are equal conceptually, by definition...
What you need to understand, and you must have slept through that class, is the principal of identity, what some might call the notion of conservation, as in the conservation of mass, or motion... Basic philosophy...
Thanks....Sweeney
Comment: #3
Posted by: James A, Sweeney
Mon Mar 25, 2013 8:24 PM
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The obvious reason that most basketball players are black is that there are areas in Africa where the people are much taller than average, and height is a major advantage in basketball. If there were a preponderance of black basketball players of disparate height, that would be a different situation. In reality, the problem with judging individuals by any group identity is useless, but in most cases, the differences between members of any definable group is much wider than the difference between the average of any group and any other group. Judging people by group identities makes as much sense as assuming that Gary Coleman would make a good basketball player.
Comment: #4
Posted by: partsmom
Mon Mar 25, 2013 11:09 PM
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Re: Maggie Lawrence... Ma'am; James has already offered an alternative explanation... If you want proof for something there is at present no proof for, you will have to find it yourself...
For example; few people have been as inbred as the Jews... You see it happening even in genesis, but it has been a common practice up to the present day even in America where marriage with first cousins was forbidden in many states to all but Jewish people... So they suffer a great quantity of mental retardation and other genetic diseases...Yes, they have a high proportion of Genius among them, even high intelligence, and I must admit that my marriage with a Jewish girl produced a genius IQ child, and certainly contributed to three very advanced grand daughters... I could easily say I am no slouch, that it took intelligence to marry some one with intelligence; but culturally I was never cultured, never encouraged, never pampered and praised into education...
I was used as a beast of burden, legs for a crippled older brother, and that was the extent of my social and moral education, and that was enough because in striking me with the unfairness of life it set me on the existential path... I was bound to meet up with a Jews... Even when everything is going their way they are always waiting for the other shoe to drop, looking for a pogrom....
People are equal, but the cultural knowledge people possess is unequal... If the expectation is that you will have a child genius, you will do all within your power to make it so, and culturally you and your people will try to select for the qualities you admire...
Look at Jacob and Jesse in Genesis...Jacob got it all, and legitimately, as we are made witness to; but not without the exercise of intelligence beyond an agreement- was the fact finalized... There was the blessing for all those gains of the intelligent at the cost of the less intelligent everywhere... We know this as the reality of life, that the intelligent survive, and the less intelligent perish, and the Chinese illustrate that in spades... China has been the cross roads where disease, famine, and war have met to plan the anhilation of humanity... Humanity as it has survived in China did survive as an example of higher rather than lower intelligence... We do not see all of them, know all of them, or judge all of them... Those who leave China have children on average ten IQ points above our own... Will this condition remain as it is???
With Jews or Chinese, we see they are superculturated... Culture is knowledge, and if to communicate, if to understand ones self, ones people and history, and understand ones place in the new world, one must learn two cultures rather than one, and it is like learning another language that is impossible without learning how other people view their world, then people essentially learn at an early age, -how to learn, and how to think, that is, how to organize knowledged through concepts like number or word...
We all think without thinking about thought... Clearly Mr. Williams does not think consciously, or he would more easily recognize his errors of reason... In fact, he would not so often mix up moral considerations with rational calculations if he could more effectively catagorize his knowledge... We need to learn to think consciously to be any good at it, and for that purpose the natural order of events should be reversed if you want to see genius developed to its full extent in America... Philosophy is seldom encountered by people to any extent until they are in college, and then, only in a liberal arts program...The time to teach philosophy is at that age when people have the mental ability to grasp identity, or conservation as it is called in physical forms...
Piaget worked around this subject because to grasp this principal, as Mr. Williams clearly has not, is an essential element to all higher reasoning... It adds boogers to many minds on the right that they cannot abide by conserved definitions of what can be conserved, and are always trying to conserve moral forms that cannot be conserved... As an explanation: we say that it is possible to compare two objects, such as two lengths of wire for a quantity called "length" because the Quality, and definition of "line" does not change no matter how may lengths or wire or string, etc are measured... The definition- line- is conserved, as is the definition of human being...It is within these e-qualities that all difference of quality have their meaning...
Equality is one of those boogers for the right who see the social implications of it... Yes, it is sort of general as a term... But where the simple mind of Mr. Williams might say two pennies are equal; science stands ready to disprove him, and the harder one looks, the more unequal they become... The social and political implications of equality and inequality are manifest...We dispute inequality because even as a generality it is impossible to prove... We assert physical, social, and politcal equality for humanity because it is impossible to disprove... We can see where the physical inequality of people does result from the perception of their inequality, when that perception justifies mistreatment, starvation, denial of education, healthcare, etc...
If we use some abstract measure like intelligence to determine a definition of humanity, as Mr. Williams says: equality, it is mischievous, on many scores... With out the presumption of equality the social fact is denied, as with that definition go resources and access to resources until every random genius who has the misfortune to be born among the poor gives all his mind to his survival, and none to the improvement of our general condition...
The Mischief, like the inequality, is all in Mr. Williams mind... That is: Much more mischief will inevitably result from the presumption of inequality than the presumption of equality because what people presume, they also look for the evidence of... And they find it where they do not create it...
There is little reason to doubt that genetic factors play a part in genius... This is only because where genius is not defeated culturally, it will often be passed on genetically...In America today, and for a long time, genius has been defeated culturally, and Mr. Williams argues for more of the same...
Thanks...Sweeney
Comment: #5
Posted by: James A, Sweeney
Tue Mar 26, 2013 5:25 AM
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Re: partsmom;... You do not have to explain the obvious, ma'am... If everyone were poor, and they were giving a cash prize for stitching snot rags, some people would excel at it, and some would lag... The remarkable thing to me is that with so many people giving so much of their time and natural talent to sport that any of them should be genius; but they are there... Look at the vast number of philosophers who were really genius's who could not manage a personal and emotional aspect to their lives...Where are those few who are physically able, intelligent, and emotionally healthy and whole???
If ignorance is bliss, then intelligence is a curse because it is a burden, a social obligation to the moral person... Most people, having quite little of good fortune also owe little to those around them... It is the intelligent who most recognize the extent to which knowledge and so, intelligence is a structure built by previous generations that we can do no more than step into, and build to suit..Then they must pity the poor- chewing on lead paint chips, uninspired, malnutritioned, misled, abused by stiffling environments and the madness of poverty around them...I am not arguing for a homogeny of environments... I would not have wished my own on anyone, though in my case it pushed me to an exercise of the intelligence I had into a more fit version...We should be aware that some environments some children endure are simply a long period of abuse from which they will need all their intelligence to survive...
Look at environments... If ones environments stimulates intelligence, and learning, you will get a higher proportion of learned and intelligent people... If you environment places a premium on basketball skill, or stripping a car; your intelligence will follow that direction...Don't tell me it takes less of mind to do one thing better than another... Some people culturally produce more genius as we commonly recognize it... The mistake is ours...
Comment: #6
Posted by: James A, Sweeney
Tue Mar 26, 2013 5:53 AM
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Mr. Williams is simply stating that discrimination has little to do with how people are distributed by any number of factors. You are all mistaking his meaning and somehow linking it to race and culture. Basically it boils down to equality is not the same as equality before the law. I also think your responses give proof to the fact that intellectuals(?) tend to support only the statistics that support their preexisting beliefs.
Comment: #7
Posted by: david
Tue Mar 26, 2013 9:41 AM
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New York and Michigan are two and three when it comes to NHL players. The People's Republic of Massachusetts is a distant fourth.
Comment: #8
Posted by: Robert Vertullo
Tue Mar 26, 2013 4:48 PM
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Good thought provoking article as usual.
Comment: #9
Posted by: mark wells
Wed Mar 27, 2013 4:09 AM
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Re: david... No!!! The meaning of his article is an attack on humanity, the conceptual equality we share... Naturally, we are not all equal within that definition, but this is an attack on the definition... You must understand that the societal norm in the past was for people to get their rights by virtue of the groups they were born into, and you can see this vividly in the caste system of India... Here for the first time anywhere, the principal of human equality was advanced as an idea, though not as a legal reality...
Now the contradictions of our society are coming at us as a cause of conflict just as it was once a cause of civil war... And the underlying issue is the same: Property.... Because so much of privilage has been given to property, and to religions which gives great and ever greater right to those who manage the religions and property, amounting to gross inequality in society, that all those people left without those rights and powers must suffer and accomodate in a pool of reduced rights and social resources...
Men don't like to give up their rights to women... Whites don't like to give up their rights to blacks, hispanics and asians when they recognize that they do not have enough... It is not a matter of actual physical inequality, but the result certainly is that where rights are denied, so are resources so that the hypothetical inequality of blacks and whites can over time becomes a physical and mental inequality... But this question of inequality between people is only a symptom and not the illness...
There is plenty to go around; but it is the powers and rights of property and religion that do nothing to serve this people that have the greatest demand on resources with the least obligation to society... I understand that we once thought the benefit of property rights would be enjoyed by all... In reality we are only reproducing in this land the conditions which brought about our rebellion against the old world and their ways...
In making this society, and drawing up our constitution there was already a deep antipathy against democracy evident... There was a choice of government models we could have emulated in the constitution, but we decided to resemble the failed democracy of the Roman commonwealth at the point where wealth was already far from common... Looking at the vastness of this land, and how many people were invested with it, it is understandable that support for property rights was thought to equal support of the people's rights; but this was not a right inherited as most were, or assumed on the basis of existence as a human being...
The rights of property are not equal, and they work against equal human rights, and so, against democracy...With more property a person has more rights than one with less, and rights equal power, and access to government...A person with property has all the civil rights of one without property, but more in addition.... And you can see how this inequality of rights led to stress and the destruction of the Greek Democracy where the rich thought they were better, and so should have the rights to control government...
We see this with the Franks in Europe... Though they successfully resisted in France the advance of the Moors with footmen, once they had the Stirrup, a horseman became more than equal, and this wealth, a horse, which before the horse collar was not a dual use animal gave that man so possessed government as well as wealth.... Now; this led to the weakening of the whole society just as it did in Rome, and in Greece, and the Franks only barely survived the Norsemen...
The argument against equality that is a veiled attack on humanity and human rights is in the end an attack on democracy... The true question is: Why should anyone have more rights based upon their beliefs, or upon the amount of property they own since history proves that such inequalities lead to the weakening and destruction of society??? I say that church people and property owners have all the rights they need if they have equal civil rights... Let me explain...
We see from the issue of slavery as a property privilage that there was no guarantee of equality of rights for all, and just the opposite... Nor was their any morality or civility resulting from it, or general benefit... On the other hand, civil rights protect all people, even those with beliefs outside of the mainstream, and those with property, so that if you respect the man you respect his property and beliefs...The only thing that is guaranteed, is that where property assures greater rights, that even inalienable human rights will sooner or later be made alienable and sold cheap out of the necessity of staying alive...That is where we are today, where those who are entitled because they have title to the entire commonwealth must go begging for the support of the commonwealth they have been deprived of through force of law, property law, in fact...
Comment: #10
Posted by: James A, Sweeney
Wed Mar 27, 2013 4:59 AM
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Sir;... You miss the point of those you call soft-minded academics... Any close understanding of Jewish people, or the Chinese will reveal their cultural intents through hard work and academic achievement to excel above the norm... They think they are better culturally, and the thought becomes a self fulfulling prophesy of success... When I was a wage slave I visited a meet and greet at a conference of psychiatrists in Detroit... My father in law was a man who once drove taxi and sold his blood to finance his education, and he found it necessary to trick his way into med school which at the time had strict limits on Jews by going for his PHD in Anatomy, and using his hobby, Photography, to contribute to the year book, and get to know the faculty so that when he applied, he was in... The man was brilliant, but also hard working, sociable, political... And he came from that class of Jews which in Europe who most suffered the Holocaust, who forever had the foot of the rich Jews on their backs... It was the equality of America that offered such individuals a chance for something better, and they took it; but this is all by way of digression...
One of the (Jewish) psychoanalysts my father in law was conversing with mentioned that he advised his son to never become a wage slave... Some times people do quite well as wage slaves, and it is possible to easily reference ones moral authority from that position; but it is no way to get ahead... Those people have a cultural advantage in this society who with a purpose seek to control their educations, their incomes, their government, and so their destinies... Most of us simply feel like victims, like ducks hit on the head, we stumble about knowing we have been injured, robbed even, without being able to put a name and a face on the one who done it...We are finding now that Muslims are as intelligent, and devoted and hard working as the Jews, and just as close to their money... Why can't we manage to doctor ourselves???... Why can't we access college, or culturally commit to education at all cost???... In my family; my parents made a conscious choice to follow their faith, and have more children than they could well educate... Catching up has been my true occupation... But try to understand that some cultures are primed by history to keep their wealth portable, and their minds alert to danger... In fact, they view their minds as the repositories of their greatest wealth, and there contain the past and the future ensconsed...
The educated are not soft to realize that education is the key to equality... One must have a certain understanding to go after it; but it is not only an investment, and the key to wealth for individual and society, but education is the key to human happiness... All the misery we suffer as a society and as individuals could be cured with knowledge, but when the wealth and happiness of a few is guarded by the ignorance of the masses, no one has the ability to turn the tables...When you are in the business of confusing the situation and maintaining human inequality, it is natural enough for you to damn all those who should work against you, -for equality, for justice, for democracy, and for liberty...We are reaching the tipping point where it will all go one way or the other, and never be balanced again... I have to push for what is right... I stand for human equality...
The necessity of education is one that most people have been led to believe is a luxury only the rich can afford... Why??? Knowledge is the common property of humanity, what humanity has labored long to achieve and add to... It is made to seem an impossible to afford luxury by those who know it is the the key to success, to wealth, to life and liberty... I can buy good books at ten cents a pound... What does a dime buy any more... The only reason I cannot get them cheaper is that the shredder will pay nine cents a pound for all they got...What people who most need an education do not have is the time required to get it... I am retired and still so busy with life that even time to buy must be schedualed, and then I must prioritize what I read and house the rest...Though I have so much more money than went I attended college, the price has went up apace... We are on the losing end of a race with the rules set against us... So the question of equality must be answered in the affirmative to achieve at some point the equal access required to make political and social equality a reality... We will never reproduce the cultures that make Chinese, or Jewish, or Muslim people superior intellectually; but we can certainly do better without the impediment we now suffer...
Thanks...Sweeney
Comment: #11
Posted by: James A, Sweeney
Wed Mar 27, 2013 5:54 AM
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Sweeney...you are an incoherent, rambling buffoon. Please just go away.
Comment: #12
Posted by: Robert Landry
Wed Mar 27, 2013 7:30 PM
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When did the Jews become a race?
Comment: #13
Posted by: Adrian Azzopardi
Thu Mar 28, 2013 5:20 AM
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When did the Jews become a race? This is a gross misconception.
I believe that the fundamental flaw in this article, is that it deals with an abstract, collectivist concept. Something Mr. Walter E. Williams, can teach me a thing or two about. Had we to continually subdivide any of the aforementioned racial groups, using various alternative benchmarks, we would eventually arrive at the individual. Leonardo da Vinci is considered an Italian genius, but Italians are not considered Leonardo da Vincis. Clearly, we are individually unequal.
Comment: #14
Posted by: Adrian Azzopardi
Thu Mar 28, 2013 5:47 AM
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Re: Adrian Azzopardi;... We live as individuals, but exist as nations, as groups, societies, and communities... Individualism along with loneliness may be our subjective reality, but no one can demonstrate the individual as an objective reality... Those people who grow up feral grow up retarded... Even the development of our brains depends upon language as a social form and interaction with other individual through language and all other social forms... We become what we are, even as a living being through social interaction, and we recieve our cultures which are knowledge from society, and advance it, or not, we return it to society... We do no know how much human knowledge has been lost, or how much has been gained in vain; but we do know that the vast store of knowledge to be appreciated was there before our births...No one can be seen as they are, no one can live as they have become outside of the context of society...Anyone who says society is all, or who says the individual is all are missing the point... Some cultures by their nature and by their behavior produce a lot of genius's... If you measure the Jews by their genetic illnesses along with their genius they are seriously no great contribution to humanity, but it has always been the case in the past that Jews would not castrate their slaves and always incorporated them, and selected among their own children for intelligence even back to Genesis...Even when they did not fully understand their world they still tried to command it...You see Jacob genetically selecting his goats, but also using sympathetic magic without preference for which was more effective... The way their genius has been turned upon their own community and has led to their destruction and rebuilding is a marvel of history... Actually; it stands as a pretty bad example...
Comment: #15
Posted by: James A, Sweeney
Thu Mar 28, 2013 6:40 AM
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Re: Robert Landry; Sorry... I have to go do the landry... Mind if I file your complain with the rest???
Thanks...Sweeney
Comment: #16
Posted by: James A, Sweeney
Thu Mar 28, 2013 6:42 AM
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Re: Robert Landry; Sorry... I have to go do the landry... Mind if I file your complaint with the rest???
Thanks...Sweeney
Comment: #17
Posted by: James A, Sweeney
Thu Mar 28, 2013 6:50 AM
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I have read many, well thought out, arguments to this article, but I would like to point out Mr.Williams is an economics teacher. Had it crossed your minds that he was speaking of policies put into place by politicians that mandate our employment and status be "equal" to represent a cross section of our nation, regardless of qualifications ? Or that even given a broad generalization we are in fact unequal? I would say if a dog is a dog, then how come mine isn't an attack dog or a prize winner, mearly a famliy pet.
Comment: #18
Posted by: markthebeerguy
Thu Mar 28, 2013 4:57 PM
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Re: markthebeerguy... All lines are equally lines, by concept, under which the differences of length do not disallow an equal conception... Same with dogs with dogs... They all have enough of the qualities in common to make them dogs, and every doge that is found re-inforces the concept, but if any animal is found that is so different that it must be conceived of differently, it gets a new name, or a qualified name... Social and politcal equality is not sameness, but only enough samness that no one can be excluded, and trust me; where people are excluded from humanity, they are usually killed, too...It is the first thing that is said of murderers; that they are animals... It is the beginning of their loss of rights which if carried to the end will result in their death...
Social and political equality is a meaning, a certain value accepted socially... What gives paper money its value??? What makes a hundred dollar bill, as much paper and ink as a one dollar bill worth more??? It is that the society accepts that value, and if they did not, that paper would again be paper... There is no true value, only an accepted meaning... Since democracy depends upon equality, and no matter how unequal people may be on what ever chosen score card, no one can better tell a person his needs than he, so democracy is the means by which people are not denied their needs, and where society does not deny needs, dreams become possible...
Comment: #19
Posted by: James A, Sweeney
Fri Mar 29, 2013 7:23 AM
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I love it when an black man tries to appeal to White male supremists by talking about bogus differences in IQ between White women and White men. You echo BS that's been spewed 100s of times by people who are as ignorant as YOU are. Did you know, for example, that the MOST RECENT research shows women to be superior to men in IQ? But you wouldn't know about that because you only repeat what you've "heard."
As an expert (that is, I am an expert in the legal sense, meaning I would be considered an expert in a court of law) in human intelligence, your little column only proves that (perhaps) blacks aren't as smart as Whites (Actually, there's been solid proof of that for as long as cognitive testing has existed). You have no idea of what you're talking about, but that doesn't stop you. You, sir, are every bit as bad as the jews who control & spew forth their point of view 24/7.
Comment: #20
Posted by: Marina Orwell
Sat Mar 30, 2013 1:25 PM
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Look people, Williams is correct in what he says and the only way those that respond can contend otherwise is to inaccurately rephrase what Williams said and then show why their inaccurate rephrasing of his comments is wrong.
Such can be funny to read at times but it is mostly annoying.
The point is as follows, and it is not complicated.
First, one must understand the bell curve concept. (i.e. in statistics, the symmetrical curve of a normal distribution.).
Now, for every bell curve, there are two major parameters.
(1) The “Question”; and
(2) The groups being examined.
For example: suppose the “Question” is: How high can you jump?
The group being explored is: Human Males between 20 and 40 years old.
Now, since you do not have time to test all males on the planet, you test 10,000 human males for how high they could jump and plot the answer to that question on an X, Y grid, the “distribution” would look like a camel's hump or perhaps a “bell”, hence the name “bell curve.” The peak of the bell curve would be the “average” and hopefully the “median” as well.
Now, if you had to make a bet on how high an unknown (to you) 30 year old male could jump, you have a good tool to help you make a better bet. Just one possible use of a “bell curve”.
Now if you tested 10,000 women between 20 and 40 years old on how high they could jump and plotted the data on the same graph as the one for males above?
If men and women are truly equal, the two bell curves will be right on top of each other. Such is almost sure not to happen and the bell curves will be “shifted” relative to each other. Most likely the peak of the male bell curve will be “shifted” to the right of the peak of the female bell curve indicating mean, on average, can jump higher than women.
Not complicated.
But now let us suppose you give a “thinking test” with 1000 questions to be answered to three groups of people: Blacks, Whites, and Asians.
You plot the number of correct answers for each group creating an Asian Bell Curve, a White Bell Curve, and a Black Bell curve.
What are the odds of these curves being totally in phase creating just one hump (or plotted right on top of each other)?
Almost zero. The peak for one group is going to be farther right than the other two and of the remaining two on group's the peak for one group will be to the right of the last group.
The plots will look like three humps going from left to right.
The point, when it comes to dividing humans into groups, measuring such groups for performance in some task or exercise, there is always going to be one group that has a bell curve peak that is farther right than the other groups and it is very unlikely the bell curves for any two groups will ever be on top of one another.
When the question being asked is IQ, and the groups being tested are humans by race, the peak of the Asian bell curve peak is to the right of the peak of the White bell curve and the peak of the White bell curve is to the right of the peak of the Black bell curve.
So what does that mean?
Well, first, one must remember the Bell Curve is only a prediction tool.
Second, the bell curve does not me one race is superior to another in terms of humans rights or rights to exist in freedom.
Third, what such bell curve date means is that if you had to bet your life on who would do the best on an IQ test between an Asian, White, and Black person . . . you best bet on the Asian and pray that the Black person taking the test is not Profession Williams.
Now to get back to Williams' point. Basically, the government and our laws contend that if the bell curve for a protected class of people (black, female, gay, ect.) is different from White males, the reason is racism, not a natural variation between the groups.
Thus, to Liberals, if one tests the IQ of 1000 Blacks and 1000 Whites and 1000 Asians, and the Bell curves do not line up perfectly and blacks do worse, the test is racists.
Comment: #21
Posted by: SusansMirror
Sun Mar 31, 2013 9:34 AM
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Re: Marina Orwell;...I think you are correct and incorrect...Yes; the Jews do tend to dominate the conversation, and almost the only safe conversation is beneath their radar... But if we are talking of intelligence they have a rich culture and culture as knowledge is a wonderful thing to be able to pass on, and the conception they have of self as intelligent becomes in many respects a self fulfilled expectation... They stimulate and encourage their own people, They teach their culture and the dominant culture which gives them something of the means of understanding all cultures... It is the same with language where one may learn their own without much conscious thought, but to learn a foreign language one must consider language objectively...Finally, they advertize, and one never get the sense of the extent to which the foot they put forward is actually on the head of another they may be keeping down and denying education to...
It is a terrible fact that IQ tests and the skills most prized do not begin to reflect the range of genius... I knew a black man who taught as a student teacher in my highschool for a term... I do not know what he taught, but it was not music... In fact, the man could play the most lovely piano for hours without looking at a sheet of music...Who tests for that uncommon ability who does not think to profit on it... Most of those I would presume to be genius were women, and their genius was expressed in human relationships... Look at how many scientists or philosophers could even manage an intimate relationship, or bear the fact that our relationships so manage us...The more intelligent are people the more often they are distant and aloof from the bonds of fidelity...Why is it that so many who seem super human can so seldom enjoy human company and amusment...But my point with women is true of all oppressed people... We do not know when genius must struggle for normal acheivement against a total want of resources... Personally, my family and church offered me little more than an impediment... The school hinted that they thought I was intelligent enough to do better, but no one knew what to do, including me, to improve my grades... They outright told my parents I was intelligent, with a high IQ, but I was out of highschool before anyone told me I had a high IQ, and I was applying for college when I finally saw my score...Going into Ironwork, they asked me in an interview if I thought I would be happy in Ironwork in consideration of my intelligence... What intelligence???... Until I learned how to learn, learning was complete struggle, and s l o w... If I had grown up with people who told me I was intelligent and expected more it is possible I would be more than a worn out ironworker... Strange to say, but some of the most intelligent people I ever met were in the trades, but they were often well hidden by the rough necks, the insane and nearly criminal...
Thanks...Sweeney
Comment: #22
Posted by: James A, Sweeney
Sun Mar 31, 2013 1:06 PM
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Re: SusansMirror;... Yes, the intelligence tests often are racist, and sexist, and otherwise culturally tilted... As a person who once tested well on an intelligence test- though that intelligence test did not begin to express as a general measure the extent of my extremes of ability, I can personally testify that there is no cookie cutter test of intelligence...If you believe the Bell Curve; nearly every very intelligent person in America is reaching higher education... I do not think they are touching enough people with education, but what I expect they are doing is selecting for skills they find useful...
If I use an example close to home; my wife is of above average intelligence, but in my book, in the book of emotional IQ, she is a genius...She works with the public and touches them with her ability and willingness to care for others... In her running of this household and in the planning and execution of some great endeavor like a party or a vacation trip she compares with many a general, and considering how many generals were not all that smart but only slightly educated and extremely dogged, she compares well...
I just met a man who is black, and if my daughter's relationship goes on its present course, I may well be related to this man through her husbands sister... They guy is intelligent, a constant reader, and he told me of his brother who he said may be a genius who devours books, but is distant, reclusive... I diagnosed Autism, and the man added bi-polar for good measure... The point is, that this man is not college bound though clearly he has a fine mind... Nor is anyone force feeding his brother an education, though some outside direction may be of help... Rather, these people are following, as much as I am myself, the course of our own educations in the only fashion most of us can afford, with books and with the internet...
While we tend to to see intelligence by what use we can make of it, the real boon of education and intelligence is happiness...Then is it possible to see the tragedy in misplaced resources that go only to those with money or who are super intelligent...
It is a poor trade for most of the really gifted to make, of accepting slavery and debt for an education people will pay you only little to have- so that you may some day, when old, be happy... We do not see the misery of the intelligent who lose so much of feeling, of emotion in the quest for education... Look at the unibomber, or the idiots in Colorado and Sandy hook elementary... We need to make sure intelligent people have lives, and do not feel cursed by exclusion from humanity as the price of great intelligence...
If you only consider how many of our famous philosophers were incapable of intimacy, of friendship, and bond, you may begin to see intelligence as a symptom of mental illness.. Those dots have often been connected.... The real labor of human kind will always be done by the relatively intelligent and hard working grunts...
When are we going to look for the value in genius in what it is used for??? From my experience, IQ tests only reveal that intelligence worthy of exploitation...Compared to health care, we are not suffering from expensive and effective medicine based upon cutting edge research... We are suffering from a great want of basic medicine when it would be most effective to the general health of the country...So it is with education...The genius can more easily take care of his own needs than the one less able... But we could also do much to make the knowledge that is our common property more available, and instead, we make it less accessable...
Thanks...Sweeney
Comment: #23
Posted by: James A, Sweeney
Sun Mar 31, 2013 2:09 PM
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