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Profiling

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Right now, there isn't enough known about the circumstances surrounding the fatal shooting of 17-year-old Trayvon Martin, a black, by George Zimmerman, a 28-year-old part-Hispanic, during his neighborhood watch tour in an Orlando, Fla., suburb. If evidence emerges that Zimmerman's actions were not justified, he should be prosecuted and punished; however, there's a larger issue that few people understand or have the courage to acknowledge, namely that black and young has become synonymous with crime and, hence, suspicion. To make that connection does not make one a racist. Let's look at it.

Twelve years ago, a black Washington, D.C., commissioner warned cabbies, most of whom were black, against picking up dangerous-looking passengers. She described "dangerous-looking" as a "young black guy ... with shirttail hanging down longer than his coat, baggy pants, unlaced tennis shoes." She also warned cabbies to stay away from low-income black neighborhoods. Did that make the D.C. commissioner a racist?

In some cities, such as St. Louis, black pizza deliverers have complained about having to deliver pizzas to certain black neighborhoods, including neighborhoods in which they live. Are they racists? The Rev. Jesse Jackson once remarked, "There is nothing more painful for me at this stage in my life than to walk down the street and hear footsteps and start thinking about robbery — (and) then look around and see somebody white and feel relieved." Does that make the reverend a racist?

The former Charleston, S.C., black chief of police, Reuben Greenberg, said the problem facing black America is not racial profiling. He said, "The greatest problem in the black community is the tolerance for high levels of criminality." Former Los Angeles black police Chief Bernard Parks, defending racial profiling, said: "It's not the fault of the police when they stop minority males or put them in jail. It's the fault of the minority males for committing the crime.

In my mind, it is not a great revelation that if officers are looking for criminal activity, they're going to look at the kind of people who are listed on crime reports." Are former police Chiefs Greenberg and Parks racist?

According to the Uniform Crime Report for 2009, among people 18 or younger, blacks were charged with 58 percent of murder and non-negligent manslaughter, 67 percent of robberies, 42 percent of aggravated assaults and 43 percent of auto thefts. As for murder, more than 90 percent of the time, their victims were black. These statistics, showing a strong interconnection among race, youth and crime, are a far better explanation for racial profiling and suspicion than simple racism.

Black Americans have spoken out against racial profiling by police. They've been insulted by store personnel who might give them extra scrutiny. There's the insult of the sound of a car door being locked when a black approaches. It's insulting to have taxi drivers pass up a black person and pick up white people down the street. In a similar vein, I'm sure that a law-abiding Muslim is insulted when given extra scrutiny at airports or listening to Fox News reporter Juan Williams, who was fired by National Public Radio in 2010 for publicly saying that he gets nervous when he sees people on a plane with clothing that identifies them as Muslim. Blacks and Muslims who face the insults of being profiled might direct their anger toward those who've made blacks and crime synonymous and terrorism and Muslims synonymous.

God would never racially profile, because he knows everything, including who is a criminal or terrorist. We humans are not gods; therefore, we must often base our decisions on guesses and hunches. It turns out that easily observed physical characteristics, such as race, are highly interconnected with other characteristics less easily observed.

For most blacks to own up to the high crime rate among blacks is a source of considerable discomfort. Beyond that, it creates suspicions and resentment, which are destructive of good race relations, and it's devastating to the black community, which is its primary victim.

Walter E. Williams is a professor of economics at George Mason University. To find out more about Walter E. Williams and read features by other Creators Syndicate writers and cartoonists, visit the Creators Syndicate Web page at www.creators.com.

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Wow, how disgraceful for a black man to spew such garbage. As a well-educated African-American, I can assure you that I am not afraid of members of my own culture and race. I watch demeanor and body language and if anyone - regardless of race- appears to be an aggressive or angy person, I avoid them.

But in your assessment you neglected to mention that the vast majority of serial killers are seemingly friendly, often well liked, and frequently well educated white males. This pattern has been repeated time and again. Why is it that when we see a smiling white man, we don't think, "serial killer"? Isn't this the same fallacious argument you use in justifying your dislike of men of your own race? I think it is time for you to take a philosophy course, professor.


Comment: #1
Posted by: sharnee
Tue Mar 27, 2012 10:33 AM
Re: sharnee

The real disgrace is the average person's ability to grasp that stereotypes, while not necessarily fair when applied at the individual level, have merit when looking at a particular population or demographic. Stereotypes wouldn't exist if there weren't some basis in observable behavior. Discounting sterotypes because you don't like them, or happen to unfortunatly be associated with one, is really naive.

Also, comparing serial killer profiles with those of the more common street thug or theif, which unfortuately blacks have the market cornered on, is not logical. Accepting that these crimes are mostly committed by blacks, as evident by the statistics, is more logical, though not any more acceptable. We should be asking ourselves "why are so many blacks involved in crimes like this, not why are blacks being blamed for crimes like this?" The answer to that is self evident...........blacks outnumber any other ethnicity when it comes to the numbers, thus the stereotype.

I will tell you that I'm about as far from racist as they get, but I also understand numbers and statistics.....they don't have clever excuses or sob stories.......they are what they are and that's the basis for the sterotypes that we see in life.
Comment: #2
Posted by: Mike Matull
Tue Mar 27, 2012 6:45 PM
It's interesting how people who like to use statistics to "prove" their point suddenly become offended when unflattering statistics are used about groups they favor. People will say "If you are implying that blacks are more likely to commit crime does that mean my black friend is a criminal? You must be a racist." But when you use statistics of any kind you are not talking about everyone but you are talking about trends. The fact that blacks disproportionately commit violent crime and property crime in the USA deserves discussion but citing that fact hardly makes someone a racist. The vast majority of blacks are law abiding citizens but of the crimes that are committed in this country blacks are disproportionately represented amongst the criminals.

Why do blacks commit a greater portion of the crime than would be expected by their proportion of the population? Well that question requires a lot of discussion but the answer is not genetics or some essential characteristic. However, it is still the truth and no one should be surprised that people react to that truth.

For the record, none of my comments are directed at the Trayvon Martin case.
Comment: #3
Posted by: Zack
Wed Mar 28, 2012 7:45 AM
@Mike - If you understand statistics than you also understand the fallacy of using statistics as applied to a snapshot instead of the entire picture. You can say that blacks are more likely to commit violent crimes if you only consider the number of crimes in America and solely look at race. However, when you look at crime as a poverty indicator you will find that the proportion of impoverished blacks are no more likely to be criminals than the proportion of impoverished whites. However, there is a huge disparity in the proportion of poverty when compared to race. Ask yourself why is this the case? Don't take the easy way out and blame it on laziness or lack of intelligence.... neither of which is a true stereotype. Once you get to the root of why black men are less likely to find gainful employment than a white man of the same economic status, then you will begin to uncover the larger picture. Narrow minds have no choice but to take a narrow view. I suggest you broaden your horizons instead of justifying stereotypes.

In addition - what are the statistics on "white collar crimes"? I don't know, but I would be willing to be that if examined, you would find that affluent white men are more likely to commit such crimes than affluent black people. Why are they crimes other than the most brazen and heinous, treated so lightly? Why are these people considered less dangerous to society? Why are these facts glossed over to justify crossing the street when you see a black man walking your way?

I love it when people claim, "I am not racist.... but...." That makes me smile at the sheer absurdity. A serial killer will also most likely tell you that he is a good person, lol.

Comment: #4
Posted by: sharnee
Wed Mar 28, 2012 8:50 AM
Re: sharnee
Disgusting? What is disgusting that black Americans continue to allow the haters and race baitors to further divide America. Why don't honest, decent black Americans tell Sharpton, Farrakan, Maxine Waters to shut up? This case will ultimatley blow up in the fact of Sharpton but their will be no apology. Like the Tawana Brawley and the Duke Lacrosse he is using a high profile story to further his own hate filled agenda. Allow me to remind those calling for George Zimmerman's capture and execution he has the Constitutional right of a presumption of innocence. Let the FACTS determine the outcome.
Comment: #5
Posted by: Simon645
Wed Mar 28, 2012 11:34 AM
Re: sharnee
Sharnee in truth it is YOU who is the racist. Blinded by race you cannot see what the truth is. You can deny statistics if you like but they are fact. You unfortunately do not see how stupid you really are.
Comment: #6
Posted by: Simon645
Wed Mar 28, 2012 11:36 AM
@Simon645 - You are an idiot. If a black man had killed a white kid, he would be in jail awaiting a trial to determine his guilt or innocence. I don't own or control Sharpton, Farrakhann or any other public black person who decides to express an opinion anymore than you own the very many white people who express opinions that I find stupid and absurd. You tell me I am "racist" for saying that it is disgusting that a black man should not say that he fears his own race? Whatever. You call me names because you can not come up with an intellectual argument that makes sense. You are beneath me.
Comment: #7
Posted by: sharnee
Wed Mar 28, 2012 11:54 AM
All provoking comments on this post. I can't help but still think that the black community must take charge of themselves to change the perceptions of their young males. In our county, only 21 percent of black males graduate from high school. That means that my perception when I see an unknown black male walking in my neighborhood is different than if he were an unknown white male. If he is in his late teens and black, I would be correct 4 out of 5 times to believe he is idle and uneducated. After all, if he did not graduate from high school, it is unlikely that he has a good job at 18. The statistics for young black females and unwed motherhood are equally as shocking. Thus, the stereotype is perpetrated when young people are dealing with babies and no education and thus no good jobs. From where might their money come, since they will need money to live. Until blacks encourage 2-parent families and becoming educated or learning a marketable skill to support themselves, the perception of young blacks is going to be exactly what we are discussing.
Comment: #8
Posted by: Lacy
Wed Mar 28, 2012 12:47 PM
@Lacy - There are changes that need to be made in the black community. That is irrefutable. But it does not help when instead of trying to affect change within his own culture, a black man takes the stance that he feels safer among white people. It also doesn't help that so many people are so willing to justify their firmly held beliefs in stupid stereotypes. I am well educated and have a professional job. My salary alone is higher than the medium income for two parent households in my county (which is one of top 20 most affluent counties in the country). I am married and wear a wedding ring. All of my children were conceived and born in wedlock (this is true of all of my black friends by the way). Despite this fact - when I am out without my husband I have been asked 1. If I am married (they don't bother looking for a ring because the assumption is no) and 2. If all of my children have the same father. In this country blended families are becoming the norm across soci-economic groups, but I doubt that most white women are asked these idiotic questions. When my youngest was small, I sometimes supplemented nursing with formula. I ran to the store to buy some formula and while waiting in line with three people ahead of me, the cashier saw the formula on the counter and asked if I would be using WIC to purchase the formula. Until people stop making these ridiculous assumptions instead of reinforcing them, I would argue that how can things change for African Americans?

Because of these preconceived notions that you argue to be valid, a black man will search 2-3 times as long as a white man with the same qualifications to find a job and most likely will earn less money. When a teenage son repeatedly watches the store clerks watching his honest father with great suspicion just because he happens to be shopping while black, what hope are you giving that boy that he can succeed in this world.

White children drink and do illicit drugs. White people are just as premiscous (from our perspective even more so) than black people. The difference? When a police officer stops a white boy for speeding he is less likely to search the car for drugs than he would for a black kid, unless the kid is clearly under the influence. White girls get pregnant out of wedlock every single day. Their moms take them to get an abortion and never speak of it again. Black people are far less likely to get an abortion due to either religious beliefs or lack of accessibility.

None of this is a deflection of the fact that we as a community have much work to do. That is an undeniable truth. But that does not justify your stereotypical points of views and your lazy justifications for why you yourselves do not need to change.

Comment: #9
Posted by: sharnee
Wed Mar 28, 2012 1:24 PM
Re: Lacy

Last point regarding education - If you compare the public education system to any inner city or any poor area for that matter; you will find that those children are far behind their more affluent counterparts. Why? Because even if all funding and all available programs are equal - the more affluent schools are better equipped because the community has more money and time to contribute, greatly supplementing the educational and enrichment programs that cash strapped states can not provide. Many black parents greatly value education but their meager earnings are so stretched that they can hardly feed their families and meet the routine monthly expenses, let alone donate to the school. Likewise, volunteering time in the classroom and for PTA activities is less likely when you are working countless hours per week at a low wage job with little flexibility. The only way for black children to get a solid public education is to move to a more affluent - usually predominantly white - neighborhood. There are so few of us that our dollars don't go far enough to sustain the entire community. So we are forced to choose between moving out of our own communities so that our children will have the chance to excel academically; or allowing our children to receive an inferior education so that we can attempt to elevate the entire community.

Again your points about change are valid, but it is an extremely complex issue that you are over-simplifying.

Comment: #10
Posted by: sharnee
Wed Mar 28, 2012 1:43 PM
"The Penalty of being a liar isn't that one can't be trusted, it is that one can not trust others" George Bernard Shaw made that statement. In this case "the penalty of overlooking crime in your neighborhood isn't that you might be a victim, it is that you can't see the crime your a victim of". After reading the posts from others such as Sharnee I can agree with some points and disagree with some. As a former law enforcement officer when I hear the term Serial Killer, yes I do think of white people first. I wouldn't even consider a Asian, I have never known a Asian serial killer. I can only name 2 blacks men who were Serial Killers. But when I think of the arrests that were made during my time as a officer for manslaughter and murder I remember many more names of black men than white. Again I never met a Asain man who murdered anyone. Do they exist? Yes, but it is not common in my area. As for educations role, I agree it plays a part. But economics is not the deciding factor, parenting is. My child goes to the school in a very poor district but she is at the top of her class because I push her to achieve. I would encourage you to read a book entitled "My Life in the South" by Jacob Stroyer. He was a slave who was freed during the civil war. He had learned to read and write and during his time as a slave and continued his education after becoming free. He did this with no money, no school system (slaves were forbidden to be educated) he managed it because he wanted to better himself. Todays kids do not see the value of education because they have grown dependent on the government for their every need. It is up to parents to provide the direction our children need in their lives.
Comment: #11
Posted by: John
Wed Mar 28, 2012 9:37 PM
Re: sharnee

Random sampling in populations is the very basis of inferential statistics. I agree that you can't apply them where you choose, that would make the results biased and/or invalid. I also agree that stereotypes don't usually stem from statistical studies, but rather observed behavior.....statistics are just used to confirm or deny the suppositions behind the observed behavior.

It sucks, but most stereotypes have a basis in observed behavior that occurs with at least relative frequency; otherwise it wouldn't exist. If you were to meet me I'm pretty certain you would perceive me a certain way because of my appearance, and I'd bet you a hundred dollars that the initial perception would be based in stereotype, and not a good stereotype in my opinion, and not accurate at all.

Knowing this, and knowing statistics and the experimental method, allow a person to see beyond the stereotype, but seeing beyond does not include pretending it's not there.

I do sympathize with any people who are negatively affected by stereotypes, but accepting and understanding them is the first step toward changing them. New behaviors, and time, can do this...... the problem is it takes a long time!
Comment: #12
Posted by: Mike Matull
Wed Mar 28, 2012 10:26 PM
You are one of the most honest columnists I have been reading lately. You tell it like it is. Sometimes, the truth is not pretty. Sometimes the truth hurts. When a Jewish person commits a crime, I, as a Jew, feel the shame. I am sure 90 % of the people of any religion or color or nationality feel the same way. WEW is honest enough to verbalize how he feels. I have never met you but I have no doubt you feel the same shame when writing. As to content, a short story. In the 1960's, I had a woman come to my house to help wih the housework. She lived in a black neighborhood with her husband and two sons. She, a black woman, told me she walked her son to the bus stop every day when he went to school and waited until he got on the bus because she was afraid for his safety. She said the other kids in the neighborhood would think nothing of beating him up for his lunch money. How sad.
I do believe things have gotten better in general. I HAVE to believe that or it would be a pretty dismal world. I believe more and more people are speaking out like you, WEW, and saying they want the bad behavior to stop. Unfortunately, there will always be a degenerate 10% in this world. I say let the 90% good people reside in peace.

Deborah
Comment: #13
Posted by: deborah harad
Thu Mar 29, 2012 5:46 AM
@Deborah Harad - You misinterpreted what was written in this column. Williams did not mention the 90% of good people that you speak of in your unicorns and rainbow interpretation. He said that he is afraid of his own race. A blanket statement. Not afraid of a certain characteristic. Not afraid of a certain personality trait. He said that he feels safer among white people. That is not telling it like it is. That is about rising above your peers - which is perfectly fine; but then looking down upon them with disdain, which as I stated is disgraceful.

Comment: #14
Posted by: sharnee
Thu Mar 29, 2012 7:20 AM
@John - I don't need to read Jacob Stroyer or any other experiences of people who have risen above oppression. I see real life examples every single day, self included. You are right - there are numerous people who are able to achieve well above the station in which they were born. Those are usually abnormally phenomenal people with a great deal of self possession and determination. Not the norm in any culture or race. For most people, they are conditioned to see life as it is presented to them without being able to imagine and reach beyond. This is why most white people from poor small dead-end towns tend to grow up and stay right there, collecting government assistance because there are no jobs in the area, but they don't know how to break the cycle.

My husband is from Africa and he has a difficult time understanding why African Americans walk around with an air of oppression too. It is maddening, but entirely understandable because parents teach their children what they know from their own experiences. While slavery ended 150 years ago, segration only officially ended 50 years ago and took many more years to actually fully end. Racism has not ended. My grandmother (she was an exception because she was well educated and worked at a professional job among white people when most black women worked as maids) for example, grew up fully entrenched in a segregated system. She told her children, "watch out and stay on your side of the street or the white men will beat you. Don't sit in the front of the bus, or the white man will beat you". This is the life she lived - she could not trust white people because there were no safe guards for her and she was groomed by society to feel inferior.

In my mother's coming of age, there was the civil rights movement and segregation ended. Those were racially volatile times, so she learned that things were getting better than they were when her mother grew up; but her mother's admonition to "watch out for the white men" had been instilled in her from childhood. She can not easily let go of that resentment and mistrust and passed it on to her children, my generation - although not as strongly. Our mantra was to "work hard, learn to live in the world ruled by white people, but remember who you are".
I went to school with white kids - many of whom were my friends some still are lifelong friends. But I noticed that in my classes, I was one of only two or three black students out of 60 honors students, in a predominantly black school. We weren't the only smart black kids by a long shot - we just happened to be the chosen ones. I took that experience and my mother's mantra to heart and now excel in a field that is dominated by white men. I kick ass. I get along well with my colleagues – I am only one of two women, the only black person on my team AND the youngest by at least a decade - and I am well respected. But, I identify with my family and friends who have not been as fortunate as I to be blessed with the opportunities that have been presented to me. One of my brothers is smarter than I am by leaps and bounds. He works as a custodian at a high school. Yes, I am ambitious and work hard, but I also have been very fortunate in a way that many are not.

Today, my children have no true understanding of what segregation even means they go to a racially diverse school and have friends of many nationalities. I don't tell them, "remember who you are when you come home". I tell them to "work hard and you will achieve". I still see injustice and racism every day, but I willfully choose not to pass these observations on to my children because I never want them to feel inferior or oppressed in anyway.
In my family it has taken four generations to slowly move away from the damage done to Black Americans by centuries of oppression. Some families may have moved quicker than us based on their experiences. Others may take a lot longer based on their collective experiences.

But again, that does not justify these stereotypes that you seem to willfully embrace. If you want black people to break this cycle of feeling oppressed then stop making derogatory assumptions based on the color of someone's skin. This after all, is the epitome of oppression. If you do think these things then at least have the decency to try to rise above your own ignorance.

And no, when I meet you I am not likely to lump you in a group. I look at individuals. My first thought about you would most likely be, "he's cute (I like good looking men, what can I say)" or "he seems really confident" or "he comes off as very arrogant" all based on your appearance demeanor and individual personality. Then I will listen to what you have to say and assess whether or not I agree with your point of view, respect the way you present your position on a matter, or dislike you as a person.

However, if you were to meet me in a room full of my colleagues - you would be less likely to assume that I am a senior member of my team; most likely you would think that I was the department admin. I have seen this over and over again. I just smile to myself and take charge of the situation so that by the time I finish talking you will understand that I am nobody's assistant. But you will walk away from that eye opening experience with me and instead of thinking, "wow, I had black people all wrong" you will think, "wow, she is the exception". I have been told this time and again. I resent that sentiment far more than I do outright racism.
Comment: #15
Posted by: sharnee
Thu Mar 29, 2012 7:22 AM
It takes a very deep Journalistic mind to stand up and speak the truth, as for all the anti- feeling expressed by unhappy "brothers", show just how much the " truth" hurts. "Brotherhood": There is a destiny 32355that makes us brothers: None goes his own way alone: All that we send into the lives of others, comes back onto our own.
by Edwin Markham
" Truth" We should face reality and our past mistakes in an honest, adult way, Boasting of glory, and singing in the dark does dispel fear. by Hussian King of Jordan
Comment: #16
Posted by: Joseph H. Bell
Thu Mar 29, 2012 9:05 AM
Sharnee:
I believe we all want to find a solution to the ills of society, but claiming WEW is spewing garbage, or that the white perception of blacks is misguided because we are aware of the high percentage of crime committed by young black males tells me you may live in an insulated world because you have worked your way into the upper middle class. That's a concept all my friends, black and white, subscribe too, after all, it's a perk of hard work. It doesn't fix the problem for the those blacks who have lived generation after generation on entitelment programs, that you yourself acknowledge, or the low wages for working blacks who do not get educated or trained, which you yourself acknowledge. Yes, whites also collect welfare and proffer food stamps, and are in jail, and have low wage jobs. Just proportionately not in the numbers that blacks are. Statistics are a tool, a valuable one for assessing society, we learn in any basic Sociology class. You make excuses for the poor performance of blacks because they are in inferior schools and their parents are too busy working low end jobs to participate, but excuses are not acceptable, since this only perpetrates the cycle of poverty and mistrust by and for whites. One of my dearest friends is a research scientist (she is black) and her parents never wavered from expressing the importance of education, just like my parents. The only difference in us as close friends is the color of our skin. My surgeon (he is black) is as close to godlike in my estimation of any man walking the earth. Another dear friend (white) has been married to a lovely, principaled black man for 15 years, and they live a middle class life among a diverse group of friends. They are very close to their mixed race granddaughter, and have taught her that she can be anything she wants with the proper education. None of these blacks would consider venturing into certain parts of our city at night, any more than I would. They all think young black males who drop out of school are making a huge mistake, and dressing like a gangsta with their pants around their ankles is ridiculous. They are all aware of the atrocious graduation rate for young black males and the high incarceration rate for all sorts of crimes. They all know several young black girls who have several children and no husband to help support them. Instead of blaming whites for believing the statistics and acting with this knowledge, you should become a role model to those poor blacks and show them that they do not need to perpetuate the poverty or crime, there is a way out. Because, after 50 years of affirmative action and civil rights and intermarriage and increased understanding, I must inform you that there is NO Big Daddy white man running any show and suppressing blacks. That same guy of whom you spoke mistaking you for an assistant would do the same to me, and I, like you, am a professional. He, white or black, is just a jerk. We all get what we put into this life, and if being a gangsta and committing crimes is a kid's idea of being a male, then the successful blacks need to step in and help change this instead of making excuses and pointing fingers at whites.
Comment: #17
Posted by: Lacy
Thu Mar 29, 2012 11:33 AM
@Lacy - so your point is that it is OK to stereotype and treat people based on preconceived notions? You think that this Williams fellow is giving you the right to say what you really feel because, "see, some black people feel the way I do". That is garbage.

I have not denied issues within our culture nor have I pointed fingers at white people OF THIS GENERATION. But, damn skippy white people are the cause of the entrenched view of oppression that preceded the issues within our culture. In addition, white people are not helping when they look at a black man and deny him a job because he is black. Get your head out of the sand and stop justifying your skewed perspective.

My life is not insulated in the least. I live in a major metro area that is as riddled by crime as any large city in the US. But I actually go IN to those neighborhoods and walk beside the people you fear. Those people are my brothers, my cousins, my aunts and uncles who I see routinely. Guess what? I lock my car when I get out just as I do in a more affluent area. If I see a black man walking toward me wearing his pants around his waste and a hoodie, I don't run.... I look him in the eye, I smile and I say hello. 100% of the time they return that respect to me.

Harbor your hate if you want and excuse yourself until you run out of justifications - that is what you do. But I would rather face an out and out racist who will call me the N word to my face than to deal with the likes of you. At least with that guy, I know where I stand. You will smile in my face, tell me that you thing I am wonderful and then cross the street the minute you see my brother walking in your direction. Ugh, I have no patience for you.
Comment: #18
Posted by: sharnee
Thu Mar 29, 2012 1:45 PM
@Lacy - PS - Trayvon Martin was no more a "gangsta" then you are a tool. Let's not forget that this article was written as affirmation to the biased fears of an imbalanced vigilante who murdered a child because he held dear the stereotypes that you so sheepishly uphold.
Comment: #19
Posted by: sharnee
Thu Mar 29, 2012 4:09 PM
"But you will walk away from that eye opening experience with me and instead of thinking, "wow, I had black people all wrong" you will think, "wow, she is the exception". I have been told this time and again. I resent that sentiment far more than I do outright racism."

Just like the rest of your knee-jerk, name calling remarks, this little tidbit is even more telling of your resiliency at keeping your eyes wide shut. Instead of resenting that sentiment, resent the majority of our race that has brought this upon us. Grow up and stop waving your education and status in our faces.
Comment: #20
Posted by: Joshua
Thu Mar 29, 2012 7:26 PM
@Joshua - who is waving status in anyone's face? My entire point is that just I am not the exception, but many white people tend to see me and any other educated black person they meet that way. Just because a black boy wears his pants around his hips or doesn't have formal education does not make him any less than me - but yes in my experience in the white corporate world, white people more often than not believe what they hear on the news instead of what they see in front of their faces.

Did I touch a nerve? Is that why you posters are so resistent to my experiences - because it hits too close to your fears that deep down inside you really are racists? Look in the mirror, reflect, and grow up, yourself.
Comment: #21
Posted by: sharnee
Fri Mar 30, 2012 2:42 AM
I don't understand why the killer of Trayvon did what he did and why he isn't in police custody. I don't understand why Spike Lee did what he did and why he isn't in police custody. Anger/hatred solves nothing and can only exist if people feed it. Why not, as Lennon said, "give peace a chance"? As Rodney King said, "why can't we all just get along?". It's the comments above and the actions of Zimmerman and Spike Lee that divide us. When can we put aside our own personal history and come together in agreement that Treyvon could have been any one of our children when a wanna beacop is stalking them with a loaded pistol. Spike Lee could have caused mayhem, rioting and murder, giving out an address. Zimmerman and Spike Lee both should be in police custody. Zimmerman's protected by the law, Spike's protected by wealth. No racism involved, just lousy law enforcement and politics.
Comment: #22
Posted by: Steve
Fri Mar 30, 2012 11:40 AM
@Steve - What Spike Lee did was wrong. It was a mentality of street justice, which should be punishable for anyone who perpetrated violence based on the information posted by Spike Lee. However, what he did was not illegal. If it was, please site the law that was broken by him. Every store you frequent that captures your credit card information also gives away your personal information without your express consent. Legally, he did no more than that. Morally, he was dead wrong. That goodness, that unlike Zimmerman his actions did not cause anyone's death either directly or indirectly. There is a huge difference.
Comment: #23
Posted by: sharnee
Sat Mar 31, 2012 8:52 AM
Ms. sharnee, I don't know legalities or law, like many, I'm expressing an opinion. I'm a card player, I call a spade a spade, it doesn't make me racist. That's not for you sharnee, it's for the race baiters out there. Spike's an artist, sensitive, intelligent, from the little I know of him, a really good man. His tweet was an intent to incite violence, or 'street justice' as you say, and if it's not illegal it should be, in my opinion. Not to belabor a point, but if the hot heads out there had stormed that house, Spike would have been the hurting-est sob because he is a good man.
I state my opinion, but do stand corrected, you said it best, that morally he was dead wrong and only through "goodness" his actions did not cause anyone's death directly or indirectly.
Zimmerman, that's a horse of a different color. The whole thing smells to me, even more so after learning his father is a local judge. Again, my opinion based only on what I've read or heard, Spike did his best to make things right, time for the police to make things right for the Trayvon Martin family.
Comment: #24
Posted by: Steve
Sat Mar 31, 2012 5:20 PM
Re:sharnee: yeah- just like oj Simpson, right? When I lived in NYC cabs wouldn't pick me up if I had a "hoodie" on- and I'm white - so stop crying, pull up your pantyhose, and get a life!
Comment: #25
Posted by: Tricia
Sun Apr 1, 2012 10:17 AM
@Tricia - I am not crying, as I clearly stated - I do pretty well for myself, please improve your reading comprehension skills.

As far as OJ, how does a murderer or an accused murderer (I do believe OJ was guilty) compare to a man who gave out an address? If you want to make a comparison than compare OJ to Zimmerman. OJ got away with his murder because of his wealth and elite status. He was one of the very few black men in this country who could have gotten away with what he did. Zimmerman is one among many white men who could get away with murder.
Comment: #26
Posted by: sharnee
Sun Apr 1, 2012 2:51 PM
Dr. Williams,
Thank you for hitting this topic right between the eyes. It is usually and conveniently swept under the rug. Back when Phil Donahue had his show, the liberal host did a show about people crossing the street if they saw a group of young, black me ahead on the sidewalk at night. Those people (whites) who said they would were booed and labeled racists. Weren't those same people just basing their answers on experience and crime statistics? Despite their honesty, they were reduced to mindless racists in the eyes of the Donahue audience. I am white and have been the victim of black on white crime three times. I have had lots of black friends over the years and I don't know one of them who has been the victim of white on black crime. There is a collective conscience in the black community, that a black person who is shot by a non-black must always be the innocent party. It becomes a rallying point while black on black crime never generates this level of national attention within the black community. It's just too convenient if the person who is the object of disdain happens to be white, or as the media has claimed in this case, white-Hispanic. The minute everyone can characterize this guy as "white," it is enough to bring out Al and Jesse and all of the usual suspects.
Comment: #27
Posted by: Tom Truthteller
Sun Apr 1, 2012 10:22 PM
The night before Bobby Rush (D-Black Panthers) went to the House floor in a "hoodie" to decry the death of a young black male in Florida, no fewer than SIX young black males were gunned down in his own Congressional district. Not a peep about those deaths. I wonder why?

A cynical person might think it had to do with the fact that they were all killed by other young black males.
Comment: #28
Posted by: Jeff Gunn
Sun Apr 1, 2012 10:46 PM
Parts of the news media admits to leaving out critical parts of the transciprt of Zimmerman's call to the police in a manner that inflamed racial tensions.The following is from Instatpundit.com
INDEED: “It is likely that, if not for conservative new media, the misleading edit, which inflamed racial tensions in the Martin case, and which was repeated by Stetler's own New York Times, would have gone unnoticed and uncorrected. As it is, the producer responsible for the edit at Today has been fired, but the individual who made the same edit to the earlier MSNBC story (since corrected) has not been identified or disciplined. Nor has anyone at any other outlet or network — many of which made similar selective editing choices — been punished.”
Comment: #29
Posted by: Louise Cate
Fri Apr 6, 2012 10:07 PM
@Sharnee
Wow, you're really fired up about this huh? I noticed some conflicts in your arguments. First off, if you are as accomplished and affluient as you claim to be, then I would bet money that your assertion had a store clerk ask/assume that you were funding your purchase with a WIC card. I should also mention that it is illegal for a clerk or anyone else to inquire about programs like WIC out loud as it is a direct violation of federal HIPAA laws. WIC cards run like typical debit cards and the clerk could honestly give a hoot less how you fhose to fund your purchase.
Secondly, truly affluient people seldom make reference to thier socio-economic orientation, especially to the degree. and with the intensity that you have demonstrated. Based on that alone, one fould reasonably assume that your affluience is a mere fabrication calculated to inject false substance into your otherwise flacid and counter-intuitive objections.
Ignorance alone can blind a person to the degree you have obviously been blinded. The MAJORITY of african-american males between 15 and 38 are exponentially more likley to commit a felony or violent crime than the typical white male of the same demographic. Period! The reasoning behind this really isn't as complicated as you and people like you would like it to be. The reason is this; black males of the afforementioned demographic are raised from birth socially handicapped. They are raised on notions like "black man don't never get out da hood", raised by people like you that would have them believe that they are being activley held down by the white man. Raised to believe they are disadvantaged and are not equal. This is the problem with all minority groups in this country, instead of focusing on his future, the black man is distracted by the notion that every aspect of his life is relative and otherwise tainted by his pigmentation. The same is true of the gays, thier main focus in life is thier questionable and debatable sexualities, and making every effort to ensure they recieve the level of social recognition they feel they deserve. Since the black man is raised with an oppressed victims mentality, thats all he knows, so he rationalizes the reasons why not to persue the higher degrees of academia, and why its ok to sell these drugs, join this gang, rob this store, jack this car... and when hes finally caught or killed, the excuse is that these were crimes of nescessity, that society is to blame for pushing the black man to the edge... I hear it all the time!
The only way for this prediciment the black community has on its hands to self correct, is for the black community to collectively refuse the oppressed victim mentality, to collectively stop striving to achieve special acknowledgment and praise by society for thier skin color, stop persuing the "easy money", start contributing to the common good instead of being a burden/liability on public funds... stop basing every aspect of your lives on your skin tone! Whites never even think about the fact they're white. Its a non issue to us. $0.02
Comment: #30
Posted by: Prometheus
Mon Apr 9, 2012 12:52 AM
O you with victim-based race fixation! Put down the bludgeon of your inflamed outrage. Now. Pick up the soothing, healing salve of Peace! Be positive. Lift up your Spirit. Follow the Way of Love & raise up your consciousness. Right understanding of this Way will open up your eyes to the misguided, negative, divisive, destructive, self-serving, egotistical mind of race hucksters & race hustlers who espouse discord, racially-motivated violence and ignorant retribution.
Comment: #31
Posted by: James L. Stephens
Thu Apr 12, 2012 7:29 AM
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