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The U.S. government has "helped" no group more than it has "helped" the American Indians. It stuns me when President Obama appears before Indian groups and says things like, "Few have been ignored by Washington for as long as Native Americans."

Ignored? Are you kidding me? They should be so lucky. The government has made most Indian tribes wards of the state. Government manages their land, provides their health care, and pays for housing and child care. Twenty different departments and agencies have special "native American" programs. The result? Indians have the highest poverty rate, nearly 25 percent, and the lowest life expectancy of any group in America. Sixty-six percent are born to single mothers.

Nevertheless, Indian activists want more government "help."

It is intuitive to assume that, when people struggle, government "help" is the answer. The opposite is true. American groups who are helped the most, do the worst.

Consider the Lumbees of Robeson County, N.C. — a tribe not recognized as sovereign by the government and therefore ineligible for most of the "help" given other tribes. The Lumbees do much better than those recognized tribes.

Lumbees own their homes and succeed in business. They include real estate developer Jim Thomas, who used to own the Sacramento Kings, and Jack Lowery, who helped start the Cracker Barrel Restaurants. Lumbees started the first Indian-owned bank, which now has 12 branches.

The Lumbees' wealth is not from casino money.

"We don't have any casinos. We have 12 banks," says Ben Chavis, another successful Lumbee businessman. He also points out that Robeson County looks different from most Indian reservations.

"There's mansions. They look like English manors. I can take you to one neighborhood where my people are from and show you nicer homes than the whole Sioux reservation."

Despite this success, professional "victims" activists want Congress to make the Lumbees dependent — like other tribes. U.S. Rep. Mike McIntyre, D-N.C., has introduced the Lumbee Recognition Act, which would give the Lumbees the same "help" other tribes get — about $80 million a year. Some members of the tribe support the bill.

Of course they do.

People like to freeload.

Lawyer Elizabeth Homer, who used to be the U.S. Interior Department's director of Indian land trusts, say the Lumbees ought to get federal recognition.

"The Lumbees have been neglected and left out of the system, and have been petitioning for 100 years. ... They're entitled, by the way."

People like Homer will never get it. Lumbees do well because they've divorced themselves from government handouts. Washington's neglect was a godsend.

Some Lumbees don't want the handout.

"We shouldn't take it!" Chavis said. He says if federal money comes, members of his tribe "are going to become welfare cases. It's going to stifle creativity. On the reservations, they haven't trained to be capitalists. They've been trained to be communists."

Tribal governments and the Bureau of Indian Affairs manage most Indian land. Indians compete to serve on tribal councils because they can give out the government's money. Instead of seeking to become entrepreneurs, members of tribes aspire to become bureaucrats.

"You can help your girlfriend; you can help your girlfriend's mama. It's a great program!" Chavis said sarcastically.

Because a government trust controls most Indian property, individuals rarely build nice homes or businesses. "No individual on the reservation owns the land. So they can't develop it," Chavis added. "Look at my tribe. We have title and deeds to our land. That's the secret. I raise cattle. I can do what I want to because it's my private property."

I did a TV segment on the Lumbees that I included in a special called "Freeloaders." That won me the predictable vitriol. Apparently, I'm ignorant of history and a racist.

The criticism misses the point. Yes, many years ago white people stole the Indians' land and caused great misery. And yes, the government signed treaties with the tribes that make Indians "special." But that "specialness" has brought the Indians socialism. It's what keeps them dependent and poor.

On the other hand, because the U.S. government never signed a treaty with the Lumbees, they aren't so "special" in its eyes. That left them mostly free.

Freedom lets them prosper.

John Stossel is host of "Stossel" on the Fox Business Network. He's the author of "Give Me a Break" and of "Myth, Lies, and Downright Stupidity." To find out more about John Stossel, visit his site at <a href="http://www.johnstossel.com" <http://www.johnstossel.com>>johnstossel.com</a>. To read features by other Creators Syndicate writers and cartoonists, visit the Creators Syndicate Web page at www.creators.com.

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Yes ...The United States Government will always need a place to 'hide' their Dirty Laundry'....and so the most convienient place seems to lie within the boarders of the numerous Indian reserves across the country....why... because Native Americans are vulnerable. So many years of dissplacement, men being stripped of their ability to 'provide' for their families as they had for hundreds of years has made them 'wards' of their women. Without the leadership of the men to stand strong in making decisions, they have lost the respect that men rightfully deserve in any culture as heads of their households. Left to their own volition the women naturally have turned to the Federal Government patronizing the 'Moo and Baa' lines moreso than ever before for basic staples and has led to the Matriarchial society that exists today. The women dont need the men to support them and the men feel useless in many cases turning to alcohol and drugs for being looked upon as losers.This attitude has brought the men of Native America to their Knees with this feeling and belief that they are worthless. What greater reason to 'drop out' of the rat race and even try to be men, and leaders if all of their efforts are not appreciated or even needed.....and so the circle continues from father to son and mother to daughter. The complexity of the dynamics that have overtaken Native American in such a ruthless, divisive, and cunning manner is almost inexplicible, the leading means to a destrutable end, the creation of the BIA and the development of blood quantum qualification. This system in itself has created divisions among families, and has pitted brother against brother...further confusing and dividing an already segregated and divided people. Destroy from within a popular weapon used in any war where a victory is sought, it makes the 'conquering' all the more easier. Poverty breeds hunger, hunger breeds hostility, hostility breeds jealousy the big green eyed monster of 'getting over'... but in the case of Native America, no one is getting over on anyone except the Federal Government . I have seen fights break out among family members over who got more commod cheese than the other simply because of the infamous 'U' number qualifications...so sad.
In the meantime the laundry pile is growing larger, people of other nations and races seeking refuge in the poverty pot bringing with them yet more drugs, alcohol, and gang affiliation mindsets onto the reserves. Yes the 'Great White Father' has created and then abandoned his 'red headed stepchildren' in so many ways it is almost inconceivable that the Red Man will survive this Our American Holocaust.....Only if Native Americans of all Nations can put aside their differences and unite for the common good of having their voices heard as one STRONG VOICE will they prevail.......And DAYLIGHT IS BURNING!!!! SOLIDARITY OR SURRENDER!!! And YES the GOVERNMENT has CREATED its own POVERTY! "GIVE A MAN A FISH AND HE WILL EAT FOR A DAY... BUT TEACH A MAN TO FISH AND HE WILL EAT FOR A LIFETIME". Barbara Nixon
Comment: #1
Posted by: Barbara Nixon
Wed Apr 27, 2011 12:29 PM
YES... The United States Government will always need a place to 'Hide its DirtyLaundry'. The most convienient place seems to lie within the boarders of the numerous Indian reserves across the country....why... because Native Americans are vulnerable. So many years of dissplacement, men being stripped of their ability to 'provide' for their families as they had for hundreds of years has made them 'wards' of their women. Without the leadership of the men to stand strong in making decisions, they have lost the respect that men rightfully deserve in any culture as heads of their households. Left to their own volition the women naturally have turned to the Federal Government patronizing the 'Moo and Baa' lines moreso than ever before for basic staples and has led to the Matriarchial society that exists today. The women dont need the men to support them and the men feel useless in many cases turning to alcohol and drugs for being looked upon as losers.This attitude has brought the men of Native America to their Knees with this feeling and belief that they are worthless. What greater reason to 'drop out' of the rat race and even try to be men, and leaders if all of their efforts are not appreciated or even needed.....and so the circle continues from father to son and mother to daughter. The complexity of the dynamics that have overtaken Native American in such a ruthless, divisive, and cunning manner is almost inexplicible, the leading means to a destrutable end, the creation of the BIA and the development of blood quantum qualification. This system in itself has created divisions among families, and has pitted brother against brother...further confusing and dividing an already segregated and divided people. Destroy from within a popular weapon used in any war where a victory is sought, it makes the 'conquering' all the more easier. Poverty breeds hunger, hunger breeds hostility, hostility breeds jealousy the big green eyed monster of 'getting over'... but in the case of Native America, no one is getting over on anyone except the Federal Government . I have seen fights break out among family members over who got more commod cheese than the other simply because of the infamous 'U' number qualifications...so sad.
In the meantime the laundry pile is growing larger, people of other nations and races seeking refuge in the poverty pot bringing with them yet more drugs, alcohol, and gang affiliation mindsets onto the reserves. Yes the 'Great White Father' has created and then abandoned his 'red headed stepchildren' in so many ways it is almost inconceivable that the Red Man will survive this Our American Holocaust.....Only if Native Americans of all Nations can put aside their differences and unite for the common good of having their voices heard as one STRONG VOICE will they prevail.......And DAYLIGHT IS BURNING!!!! SOLIDARITY OR SURRENDER!!! And YES the GOVERNMENT has CREATED its own POVERTY! "GIVE A MAN A FISH AND HE WILL EAT FOR A DAY... BUT TEACH A MAN TO FISH AND HE WILL EAT FOR A LIFETIME". Barbara Nixon
Comment: #2
Posted by: Barbara Nixon
Wed Apr 27, 2011 12:33 PM
Yes, I am native american in central Oklahoma, and some tribes do what they can to help, and alot of the are ran by the same leader for the past 20 to 30 yrs getting richer and richer, while members get basically nothing. They are ran like Libya, and other countries with 30 to 40 year dictators were if you say anything about them you will be sued. It is completly insane that they are aloud to continue this way. The goverment needs to step in and remove these dictators, and force them to have term limits like the U.S has, it is completely crazy that this goes on in this country. You really need to investigate these tribes, and follow the money so the tax payers can see were it goes, and little the members get help from there leaders that have been in office for 20 to 30 yrs if not longer.

PS dont even get me startd on there health care
Comment: #3
Posted by: Bob
Thu Apr 28, 2011 6:06 AM
Hau, Mitakuyapi. Le miye caje ki Joseph T&#543;a&#353;&#250;&#331;ke Wak&#225;&#331; (Horse)
How can a NATIVE man say this? Does he know nothing of being true native! He speaks of owning MANSIONS, PRIVATE PROPERTY, MONEY, and BANKS. . . Maybe someone is envy??? I enjoyed growing up in poverty with real ties to who I was and freedom to be who I am. And my family helping as one. There is in no way can a one single Lumbee "tribe" be compared to an "entire" council of 14+ groups. . . We have our language, our ceremonies, our spirits, a truth we don't have to prove, because the government has seen it since the first time they lay eyes on our long black hair, red skin and our ties to Unci Maka (Grandma Earth, come on, you can't really own your mother)This is why we are "poor" as you would call us, but we are rich in what we never lost. We have never hid from who we are. We Lakota, Nakota, Dakota and D-Nakota aka Sioux never declassified or allowed our identity to be lost. . . "They" left the Lumbee alone because they were less of a threat. . . Already lost and on the right path of the wasicu mindset (aka whiteman "the fat takers") The others in the "Tribe" who fight for recognition are dong it for a legal stance, because not every Lumbee is a successful self gloating lost blood Ben Chavis. . . Mitakuye Oyasin (To all my realations and to the real Lumbee and native hearts! Remember who you are!)
Ben Chavis points out that Robeson County looks different from most Indian reservations.
"There's mansions. They look like English manors. I can take you to one neighborhood where my people are from and show you nicer homes than the whole Sioux reservation. "The Lumbees have been neglected and left out of the system, and have been petitioning for 100 years. ... They're entitled, by the way."
Comment: #4
Posted by: lakotajoe
Thu Apr 28, 2011 4:46 PM
Hau, Mitakuyapi. Le miye caje ki Joseph T&#543;a&#331;ke Wak&#331; (Horse)
How can a NATIVE man say this? Does he know nothing of being true native! He speaks of owning MANSIONS, PRIVATE PROPERTY, MONEY, and BANKS. . . Maybe someone is envy??? I enjoyed growing up in poverty with real ties to who I was and freedom to be who I am. And my family helping as one. There is in no way can a one single Lumbee "tribe" be compared to an "entire" council of 14+ groups. . . We have our language, our ceremonies, our spirits, a truth we don't have to prove, because the government has seen it since the first time they lay eyes on our long black hair, red skin and our ties to Unci Maka (Grandma Earth, come on, you can't really own your mother)This is why we are "poor" as you would call us, but we are rich in what we never lost. We have never hid from who we are. We Lakota, Nakota, Dakota and D-Nakota aka Sioux never declassified or allowed our identity to be lost. . . "They" left the Lumbee alone because they were less of a threat. . . Already lost and on the right path of the wasicu mindset (aka whiteman "the fat takers") The others in the "Tribe" who fight for recognition are dong it for a legal stance, because not every Lumbee is a successful self gloating lost blood Ben Chavis. . . Mitakuye Oyasin (To all my realations and to the real Lumbee and native hearts! Remember who you are!)
Ben Chavis points out that Robeson County looks different from most Indian reservations.
"There's mansions. They look like English manors. I can take you to one neighborhood where my people are from and show you nicer homes than the whole Sioux reservation. "The Lumbees have been neglected and left out of the system, and have been petitioning for 100 years. ... They're entitled, by the way."
Comment: #5
Posted by: lakotajoe
Thu Apr 28, 2011 4:50 PM
The government still insisted buying the Black Hills from the Lakota people. The Sioux (Lakota) Nation refused to sell their sacred lands. The United States Government introduced the Sell or Starve Bill or the Agreement of 1877. The Lakota people starved but refused to sell their sacred land so the U.S. Congress illegally took the Black Hills from the Great Sioux Nation. The Allotment Act of 1888 allotted Indian lands into 160-acre lots to individuals to divide the nation. The Act of 1889 broke up the Great Sioux Nation into smaller reservations, the remainder of which exist today at about one half their original size in 1889.
Comment: #6
Posted by: lakotajoe
Thu Apr 28, 2011 5:01 PM
"It stuns me when President Obama appears before Indian groups and says things like, 'Few have been ignored by Washington for as long as Native Americans.'" Why should this stun you? You should know that Obama is retarded, unintelligent, ignorant, or trying to appeal to his liberal base. Most likely a combination of some of these.
Comment: #7
Posted by: Matthew Schertz
Thu Apr 28, 2011 11:13 PM
Re: lakotajoe
My heritage is Viking, but I don't sit on the government's til while I sit in a bear skin warrior cloak, horned hat and build boats. Every day that goes by, the world changes, and I am forced to change with it. I once peed my pants as a child, but as I grew up, I learned how to hold it and use a bathroom. I used to mop bathrooms for a living, but now fly helicopters, because I discovered the greatest limiting factor to my success was me.
Comment: #8
Posted by: Old Guy
Fri Apr 29, 2011 3:01 AM
lakotajoe makes no sense here. Is it not possible to be wealthy and maintain your tradition and culture? Wealth and culture preservation are not mutually exlcusive.
Comment: #9
Posted by: GiveMeLiberty
Sat Apr 30, 2011 8:09 AM
I am also a Native American...I completely agree with this perspective. I don't buy the victimization going on within NA (Native American) tribes. If we are ever going to rise up and be the great people we really, we have to stop depending on the federal and tribal governments to take care of us!! We must change our mindset and know we too can use the talents, abilities and intelligence God gave us! Yes, the old way of doing things must stop and it must stop now. Tribal governments and its leaders have way too much power; this must end now. The only way things are going to change is to realize that the NA and White man must work together. We must become educated at major universities, develop this knowledge and figure out how to help our people. We most certainly do have the power, within us, to change and stop being a victim. If you don't want to be a single mother...then stop having sex out of wedlock. If you don't want to live in poverty, then find a way to get an education and find a job; (even if that means leaving the reservation), a sad but true reality..until things change! If you want to feel like a man, then start acting like one: stop drinking, take care of your children and wives, stop abusing drugs and others! We must stop limiting ourselves and stop blaming others!
Comment: #10
Posted by: Lisa
Sun May 1, 2011 4:11 AM
For God's sake this is 2011. Can't we get past that the new Americans took land from the Indians? Either you're going to make something of yourself or not. You can't government regulate a group of people into having common sense. Sixty-six per cent of a trible's women are never married single mother's? Where's the pride in that? Why aren't those "elders" teaching something that will put some morals into the heads of the younger people. If I remember right, there was not a single house, toilet, electric applicance, automobile when the Indians lived in tribles long ago. How did things go so wrong?
The American Japanese were interred during the war...and somehow they managed to do okay in spite of it. I grew up in the 50's and 60's from dirt poor people who had no confidence, but were hard workers with good morals. We all made contributions to society without ever taking a penny of help from the Federal Government. If we wanted anything...we worked for it. There is something way passed just being wrong here.
Comment: #11
Posted by: Sandra O'Connor
Sun May 1, 2011 6:33 AM
You don't get it!? I just wish I can show you how a native see's the world. . . How often do you thank the world and remember the feeling of complete freedom?. . . Never, because to this day our resources (Blood of Grandmother) are still being taken from the natives who try to preserve her. . The "Primitive" mentality is lost with most who are not native or aboriginal. . . . "Move on". . . Trust me, real natives revolve our lives around the cycle/circle/No end. . .That's why you feel nothing for taking a life of a living creature. All from what? An old book which tells of what is equal, but is made by men, not felt inside our bodies (A tool given to us by all our creator)?. . . This leads to thinking you have more of a right to to simply "be" than a colony of ants or a small "undiscovered" tribe living in the jungle, where it is rich in minerals and natural resources? To this day, it is happening. . .You see it. . . But you are afraid of it, because as long as the "I do me" attitude is there, you are threatened by what is not known and you could lose it all one day in a Freakin! huge "TSUNAMI" Destroying whole Japanese cities or a chain of tornado or regional flooding. That's not killing people. . . Man made objects like pipes, toilets, cars, other humans, buildings, telephone wires and human contaminated oceans are killing humans! And you blame a Tsunami? An earthquake? But, when you take a life or "sin as most would call it" you can always simply place the blame onto someone else to take a the beating? Then ask for forgiveness? . I have many question because I don't understand that thinking. I am also sorry to say our way of life is not about rising up and being "A GREAT PEOPLE" it's about thriving and living as equals with everything. To be humble. . . I am at peace where I am surrounding by smiling relatives who know pain and suffering is only for us in this life. . . That's why most natives went home. . . We are not afraid of death. . . We respect it. . . Our only purpose on this earth is to take care of it. Physical suffering is temporary here and is forgotten in the Spirit world. Where is the real wrong coming from? Who is creating all wrong in this world? It's not about skin color, origin, sex or religion . . . It's all about "ME" . . . There is something way passed wrong here. . .
Comment: #12
Posted by: lakotajoe
Tue May 3, 2011 2:11 AM
You don't get it!? I just wish I can show you how a native see's the world. . . How often do you thank the world and remember the feeling of complete freedom?. . . Never, because to this day our resources (Blood of Grandmother) are still being taken from the natives who try to preserve her. . The "Primitive" mentality is lost with most who are not native or aboriginal. . . . "Move on". . . Trust me, real natives revolve our lives around the cycle/circle/No end. . .That's why you feel nothing for taking a life of a living creature. All from what? An old book which tells of what is equal, but is made by men, not felt inside our bodies (A tool given to us by all our creator)?. . . This leads to thinking you have more of a right to to simply "be" than a colony of ants or a small "undiscovered" tribe living in the jungle, where it is rich in minerals and natural resources? To this day, it is happening. . .You see it. . . But you are afraid of it, because as long as the "I do me" attitude is there, you are threatened by what is not known and you could lose it all one day in a Freakin! huge "TSUNAMI" Destroying whole Japanese cities or a chain of tornado or regional flooding. That's not killing people. . . Man made objects like pipes, toilets, cars, other humans, buildings, telephone wires and human contaminated oceans are killing humans! And you blame a Tsunami? An earthquake? But, when you take a life or "sin as most would call it" you can always simply place the blame onto someone else to take a the beating? Then ask for forgiveness? . I have many question because I don't understand that thinking. I am also sorry to say our way of life is not about rising up and being "A GREAT PEOPLE" it's about thriving and living as equals with everything. To be humble. . . I am at peace where I am surrounding by smiling relatives who know pain and suffering is only for us in this life. . . That's why most natives went home. . . We are not afraid of death. . . We respect it. . . Our only purpose on this earth is to take care of it. Physical suffering is temporary here and is forgotten in the Spirit world. Where is the real wrong coming from? Who is creating all wrong in this world? It's not about skin color, origin, sex or religion . . . It's all about "ME" . . . There is something way passed wrong here. . .
Comment: #13
Posted by: lakotajoe
Tue May 3, 2011 2:16 AM
Dear Mr.Stossel,
I used to like your programs but this one has left me feeling great disrespect for you and you're net work that would allow such dishonest and racial words. First do you understand that many of the funds that you talk about are to combat diseases that you're ancestor's brought to our lands and are for native american's to learn you're ways because our's were forced from us. I am a member of the Little Shell Tribe of Montana who has fought for federal recognition for years. Thier lands like many other tribes lands were taken from them and becuase they wouldn't sighn a treaty many of them were dropped off at the Canadian border. I urge you to look in to the TEN CENT TREATY and then try and tell all of us Native American's that we do not deserve these programs. Have you ever trully been to a reservation? I've heard you mention several (reservations) that are here in Montana and you surely must see something different than what I and many others see. The Native American's were in many cases given the WORST of thier lands to make way for mining and the "American" way and even then the government came back and in some cases tried to even take that land from its native people some of those battles continue to this day. Some treaties have never been honored yet our lands and rights and ways of life have been lost forever. Why don't you address how the real Native American Indian was almost wiped from the face of this earth how our languages and customs were taken away from us and how young native children were beaten for not wanting to learn english. Most of this because the pioneers did not understand our ways. I urge you Mr. Stossel to research the facts before drawing a picture for the world to see.
Comment: #14
Posted by: Troy Baker
Mon May 9, 2011 6:45 AM
Re: Old Guy
I liked your last line.
I'm not one to debate but I'm sure this has been said many times.If you are black you are always black,Spanish always Spanish,Asian or what ever,except Indian !! You have to prove that.I have great genealogy info. on my family from their Indian applications and what I have come to the conclusion is "The unfortunate thing in the mistakes and errors of leaders or of governments is the penalty the innocent and loyal followers have to pay."Redbird Smith,1910.
Comment: #15
Posted by: Lila Thompson
Tue May 10, 2011 2:02 PM
Some people seem to think Stossel was justifying horrendous actions taken against the native Americans in the past. He wasn't. He was trying to illustrate what a high amount of government intervention does to people. The case with the Indians is a great example because the government screwed them over historically and now is screwing them over again with their so called aid. The lesson we should learn has nothing to do with the Indians specifically but about government intervention and aid.
Comment: #16
Posted by: kris
Thu May 12, 2011 7:40 AM
I am struggling trying to pay the mortgage, utilities and all my other bills in this rapidly failing economy. If I ask for help, people like you are quick to call me a freeloader. Well, enjoy your wealth while it lasts. You see, I am a survival expert and when this economy does collapse, I will thrive while you are paying a wheelbarrow full of cash for a slice of stale bread. You should pray that I am more charitable than you if you come knocking on my door.
Comment: #17
Posted by: Rick
Sun May 15, 2011 8:18 PM
I grew up near the Navajo reservation and I have seen the results of government handouts to Indians. Your article is right on about them. The Indians who stay on the reservation do live in run down houses with trash littering their yards. They do not spend the money they get on their homes or land because they don't own it. They, instead spend it on nice trucks, electronics, alcohol, and other unnecessary things. They definitely do not spend the money on infrastructure like roads and instead drive on dirt roads that ruin their vehicles quickly. We have learned to never buy a used reservation vehicle because they are trashed by the roads. Indians get more than enough money to have paved roads but they choose not use it on the land they don't own.
The Indians who are the most successful are the ones who get an education (fully paid for by the government of course) and leave the reservation. Yet, these Indians are shunned for leaving and are snubbed by those who stay on the reservation. Many who leave do want to go back and help but they are usually not accepted back. The Indians who stay on the reservation say they are living the life of their ancestors but it isn't even close. They don't live in Tee-Pees, hunt buffalo, raid each other, or trade horses for goods. Nothing about their life on the reservation is anything like their old ways of life. Even their language is becoming obsolete because the younger generations don't see the value in keeping it going. The only real value of Navajo is to talk to each other in front of the bilagannas (white man) without being understood.
I grew up in a large household and we were pretty poor. I remember going to school and seeing bags of clothes, shoes, toys, and other items being given to the Indian kids and wondering what they did to get suck nice things. We had one pair of shoes that we wore until they had holes in them, and these kids got free shoes on a regular basis. Most of the Indian kids didn't appreciate the handouts because they had enough money to go buy the things they wanted and they found the free stuff to be inferior to what they could get at the mall. I, on the other hand, would have loved free stuff instead of having to wear hand-me-downs.
Indians are living in poor conditions because they choose to continue in this archaic system that was started to help them, but has only kept them down. They are wards of the state because they want to be. It is much easier to accept free money instead of working for a true living. It seems a lot of them have Peter Pan complexes where they never want to grow up and take responsibility for their own lives.
The most helpful thing the government could do for Indians would be to stop giving them money. I believe the debt has been long paid for and it is time to give them the best gift of all, freedom from freeloading.
Comment: #18
Posted by: Amy
Mon May 16, 2011 8:20 AM
Re: lakotajoe
You talk of continuing to live as your ancestors have lived, but your ancestors were never given money by outsiders. They protected the land because it was their only source of life. They respected animals because they hunted them for protein. Today if an Indian wants to have fresh produce and meat they go to the grocery store like everyone else.
Your ancestors definitely did not have trucks, cell phones, and flat screen TVs, yet I see Indians buying these items all the time. I don't see Indians riding horses (not native by the way), exclusively wearing buckskin clothes, or moccasins. Instead I see them in trucks and SUVs, designer clothes, and nike shoes. Those not buying these things are spending their money on alcohol and other unsavory things.
Most of the young generation of Indians are not interested in the old way or living like poor people. They see the white kids and want to have nice houses and a future without dirt and trash. The smart ones take the free money to get an education and get out of the reservations. The rest are dependent on the government, another thing that is not native the Indians. They used to be independent and proud of it, now they would rather accept money and live off of others.
If you don't see the changes then you are living in a fantasy world.
Comment: #19
Posted by: Amy
Mon May 16, 2011 9:16 AM
Mr.Stossel, as you can see, you are in pretty deep on this one. There is no "free" money involved in Indian issues; essentially all the stress is from contractual (treaty) obligations pledged by your idiot ancestors in deals made to justify or mitigate ripping off the lands and assets occupied by Indians at the time. And the Government has been in charge of managing the
obligations ever since. Obviously, "The Government" and the Tribes are dragging along about 100-200 years behind the curve on all of it.
Comment: #20
Posted by: tiogringo
Wed May 18, 2011 11:51 PM
Can I vote for John Stossel for president? None of the candidates makes as much sense.
Comment: #21
Posted by: KAS
Thu May 19, 2011 6:28 PM
I've had the opportunity to visit many reservations in my travels around the country. The people are miserable from Alaska to Florida. The men tend to be drunk as much as possible. The people are abusive to outsiders and to themselves. Their villages are sad to see and filthy. Their attitude is "f it". They are supposed to be subsistence hunters and fishers. At any river running through tribal lands you can buy as much illegal salmon as you can carry. You can buy illegal bear parts, haunches of doe meat, or anything that happens to walk or crawl on Indian land. Don't go to an Indian bar, you might not get out alive. Don't camp on Indian land. You will be robbed, especially if you have a soft-wall camper or tent. The people have no future. They are stuck on the land because of the free money. They are a welfare society exhibiting the same hopelessness as the pre-1990 Russians I met when I visited in 1988. I've seen the same in Samoa where welfare is the primary source of income. Very, very sad.
Comment: #22
Posted by: Ron
Sun May 22, 2011 11:14 AM
Re: lakotajoe
This post just goes to substantiate the article. The commentator obviously lacks the education required to "make it" in a modern world that relies on being literate. People should have a choice to pursue the "ancient ways" and to run around in breechclouts (look it up) if they want, but they should also have the skills to take advantage of the economic opportunities around them. The romantic figure of the American Indian portrayed in novels has gone the way of the buffalo. Now they are bums.
Comment: #23
Posted by: Ron
Sun May 22, 2011 11:20 AM
No government = no roads, no schools, no protection against disasters from underconcerned corporations (Bhopal, anyone?), no army, no regulation of banks, no health care for anyone over 59 etc etc etc

Go to Zimbabwe or Sierra Leone if you want to see a state with a failed government. And then compare their policies against our political parties. One of them is trying very hard to turn us into a 3rd world country. Note: the rich in third world countries actually enjoy a even higher standard of living because of the abundance of very cheap labor. Guess who this is.

Comment: #24
Posted by: VO
Mon Jun 13, 2011 5:42 AM
Hey Stossel, Tell the story from the point of all those involved, or at least get the point of view of those not fortunate enough to have enjoyed the economic benefits of a country stolen from it's original inhabitants. Not all of us, just like not all of your people, have gotten the best from our system of Government. Communism, just like capitalism, is your word not ours so do whatever you like with it. We should be a sovreign nation. Your laws require it. Your white European ancestors were a bunch of greedy land barons and have stolen the land they now claim to be their own. What we do with the ( just guessing here), one tenth of one percent left to us is none of your business. Also, while land was being stolen from my ancestors and given to yours, we were all dying of the filthy diseases introduced to North America by your Great Great Great grandparents. Today, by your own laws, the taking of North America by your forefathers would be a war crime and the founding fathers would be up before a War Crimes Tribunal. Oh and if that wasn't enough to insure our demise, the BIA , you know the Government Agency tasked with managing the Native American's money from the lease of land owned by Native Americans, has lost it ! That's right, lost it , and has been ( losing ) it from inception. Over one hundred years ago your Government began stealing our wealth and resources again. Check it out Stossel and report on where all that cash went. It's gone dude no one can find it. Billions gone. Stolen again. I'm a Lumbee Indian, I'm 55 years old. Never been on welfare as an adult and never will be. My Grandparents worked on land stolen from their parents parents. Finally they were able to save and purchase the land from the very people that stole it from them. I don't live in Robeson Co., home of the Lumbee, my parents decided to leave for greater opportunity but always dreamed of returning. It was their home. I own my home and have raised my family in the same town for 26 years. I had to live like a white man to feed my family. That's what you really want, man up, you want us to live like white people. We are not and never will be White. We don't want a hand out, we want our money back! Let me know where I can send you my address for the check. lol
Comment: #25
Posted by: Lumbeewalker
Fri Jul 15, 2011 7:33 AM
To all the AMY'S, RON'S and who ever's? Take your best blow because you are living on Indian land. In the end you will see the truth. . . And Lumbee woman you are true at heart humble. . . The infection of the white man has reached all corners of the earth. . . In the end they will see what they have caused. . .
Comment: #26
Posted by: lakotajoe
Thu Aug 11, 2011 10:53 AM
Home of the Lumbees you see no "Indian settlement" no Indian tribe here,just a black and white mix,"Mulatto" local Indians long gone and extinct replaced by the scottish welsh and african free and slave. Scuffletown known known as "Pembroke,NC" the lumbee capitol or the Mulatto capitol.Not an Indian settlement but an Imemmorial FREE Negro community,a homogenous negro community as quoted,New York herald 1872,and that statement sums it all up!!Not Indians but Blacks and black white mixed.what you wannabee little one is not always what you are,the facts speak aloud,Scuffletown(Pembroke)" An Imemmorial Free negro Community","a Homogenous negro community",NewYork Herald 1872.NewYork Times
Comment: #27
Posted by: Steve T
Wed Nov 30, 2011 12:42 PM
Re: LumbeewalkerHome of the Lumbees you see no "Indian settlement" no Indian tribe here,just a black and white mix,"Mulatto" local Indians long gone and extinct replaced by the scottish welsh and african free and slave. Scuffletown known known as "Pembroke,NC" the lumbee capitol or the Mulatto capitol.Not an Indian settlement but an Imemmorial FREE Negro community,a homogenous negro community as quoted,New York herald 1872,and that statement sums it all up!!Not Indians but Blacks and black white mixed.what you wannabee little one is not always what you are,the facts speak aloud,Scuffletown(Pembroke)" An Imemmorial Free negro Community","a Homogenous negro community",NewYork Herald 1872.NewYork Times
Comment: #28
Posted by: Steve T
Wed Nov 30, 2011 12:43 PM
My initial reaction to the video was anger... Now, I realize you're just another misinformed, self-righteous, pretentious wealthy guy. Who thinks he understands and knows what "our" problem is... Sadly, you will not know or begin to understand our humble and sad fight in your commercial world. There are thousands of us who are educated and have the ability to leave our homes and live like the ones you admire, but we choose to stay home and fight for our people. There are also any you go out to your world and try to live that life you approve of, but they can't because they will never get the high money job simply because of who they are and who they represent. I have been to many places in the US, in some places we are treated respectfully and like equals. In other places, we fight racism constantly and although educated will not get the job we apply for because of how we look. Has happened to me and many others - especially in places in the Dakotas. I have had less qualified people hired over me because I didn't have the right skin tone. Oh, and there are some jobs for Natives, but only if you fit the stereotype (long hair, Native looking) - that's just for some jobs. Just recently, I was racially profiled by local police in northern NM. They accused me of trying to break into a building I had keys for... we were mobbed by five police officers pretty much. Now, we had to talk our way out. It's pretty sad that my skin tone and dark hair brought that type of treatment out of those white police officers - but oh well - I'm just another Native. Another Native who is a Teacher and wears the uniform of the US Army. I have live in several place in the United States, and understand that my people are not freeloaders. I live in a city where people are hired based on color and background and although I have a degree and many other Natives have a degree - we have no chance in competing in a society where racism is so deeply ingrained , that it's done with a smile and no one questions it anymore. It would be nice of someone did a report on the racism that exists still, but that wouldn't fulfill your agenda of finding the culprits that ruin "your country."
Comment: #29
Posted by: Native
Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:53 AM
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