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Several years ago, this co-worker I was interested in was always stopping by my desk to talk, so I gave her some turtle earrings (they related to a story she once told me). I guess I was trying to tell her I was interested, but she was leaving for two months, so it didn't make sense to ask how she felt about me. A year later, if only to find out what her intentions were, I finally asked her out. She said, "We'll see." A month later, I asked her out again. She said she'd consider it. Thinking I'd upset her, I gave her two more pairs of earrings, also along the nature theme. I waited a week, and asked for her thoughts on going out with me, and she said, "It would be weird." Now, she not only shuns me, I'm the target of other co-workers' veiled criticism. — Not A Bad Guy

Are you a man or a magazine? Because you sell yourself like you're 52 issues of Time: "Get this cheesy touch-screen organizer, with only five functions you already don't use on your cell...FREE with your paid subscription!" Or, rather, "Date me! There's more cheap, wildlife-themed jewelry where this came from!"

There's a reason you didn't scamper off to the mall to score dolphin bookends for fat old Gladys in accounting — even if she did once remark on the joy she felt watching Flipper frolic among the sperm whales. Let's be honest: Your offerings to your other co-worker didn't come from the goodness of your heart but the lack of brass ones in your pants. And what did you think would happen, she'd be so blown away by the gift of ear tortoises that she'd agree to have a drink with you, and never mind that tiresome preliminary step of asking her out?

Women are attracted to generous men, but you show generosity by, say, springing for doughnuts for your co-workers after the doughnut budget gets cut. You can give a lone female co-worker the occasional gift — as long as it's in the realm of "Hey, I was at Starbucks. Know you've had a hard week, so I thought I'd bring you a latte." Whatever you do, don't give the gift that tells a woman "I've been logging your every word for the past two years and went to the mall and shopped based on the transcripts." This is creep street, gift-wrapped: a boyfriend present from some co-worker she speaks to in passing.

Sure, this sends the message you're thinking about her, but probably thoughts along the lines of "I touched this, and you're going to put it on your ear, and then I'll be touching you."

If a hunter approached eating the way you approach dating, he'd sit in his truck sipping hot chocolate, sighing, "I really wish a deer would shoot himself in the head, wrap himself in a tarp, and use his remaining energy to bind himself to my bumper." No, rejection isn't fun, but it costs less than doing everything you can to avoid it. A speedy rejection is the least costly of all. As soon as you know you're interested in a woman, you ask her out. You'll have to steel yourself for about 10 seconds of feeling like poo under her shoe, should she turn you down. But, even if she does, if you haven't been festering over her for years, it should be easier to act like you're cool with it. As a gutsy guy who tried but struck out, you might even garner admiration from your co-workers for your approach — saying it with manhood instead of baby forest animals with hypoallergenic posts.

Wanton None

I call myself a eunuch because I embrace sexual celibacy. I actually have no desire for sex. I've always wanted to tell people this, but I don't know how. I'd like to find an understanding woman for a romantic relationship without the sex. — A Man

Your sex drive is not only in park, it's up on blocks in the front yard. But, you seem to be okay with that, and that's pretty cool. You should still see a doctor who specializes in sexual medicine to make sure your lack of desire isn't a symptom of something, perhaps low testosterone, which is associated with a number of serious medical problems. People who have no desire for sex typically refer to themselves as asexual. You don't connect with them by marching up to random women on the street and announcing that your favorite thing to do in bed is play dead. You go on special-interest dating websites like asexualitic.com, where you'll find loads of prospective partners; maybe even some who'll be willing to get kinky with you in bed: "Whaddya say? Shall we read for a few minutes before we turn off the lights?"

Got a problem? Write Amy Alkon, 171 Pier Ave, #280, Santa Monica, CA 90405, or e-mail AdviceAmy@aol.com (www.advicegoddess.com)

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LW1: This guy is either a wimp like Amy suggested, or your lady friend is ambivalent. It really doesn't matter which. Personally, if the woman's reply is anything other than "yes," I don't bother a second time. "We'll see", "why?", "maybe I dunno", and "it would be weird" are all the same as NO. Women are always trying to "let guys down easy." I suppose that's better than being blunt, but truthfully I am a little disgusted by both the LW and by the object of his affection - he needs to ask for what he wants, and if it isn't forthcoming, immediately move on to greener pastures, not hang around and be "too available" like he's doing with the silly earring gifts. He makes it too easy for her - what woman would want a guy that she could have any old time she likes? As for her, a polite but firm "no thanks" would have been far better than the noncommittal responses she gave him over and over. If she isn't interested in some guy who is pursuing her, she needs to reject him in a way that is both polite and firm - letting him know that she's flattered by his interest, but simply not interested...and definitely not any kind of answer that would encourage him to keep trying. Amy is absolutely right. This guy needs to grow a pair and stop being so nice. He reminds me of a friend of mine who spent years pining over this girl he went to high school with, and he even got her to go out with him once. But she was so weirded-out by his obsessiveness and pseudo-romance and "trying too hard" that she eventually got turned off and told him to hit the road. (She was always nice to ME, though.) If you like a woman, ask her to lunch or coffee or a concert or whatever, but don't pussyfoot around. Women, it seems, respect a man who is driven, assertive (but not pushy), and knows what he wants. Come on ladies, you know I'm right.

Comment: #1
Posted by: Matt
Tue Oct 20, 2009 9:16 PM
LW2: He's asexual? Fine. I'm sure lots of women out there are tired of men who are only after one thing. His situation is tricky, because it isn't an appropriate first-date topic of conversation, but it also is something he should disclose before a relationship gets too involved. I'd say he ought to mention it the very first time the subject of sex comes up - and wait for her to bring it up - no matter what the context. Amy is right though - even if he is content to live like this, he still should double-check that there isn't some underlying, physical medical problem. By the way, a "eunuch" is a man who has been castrated entirely, not one who simply has no interest in sex. He's misusing the word, and if he goes around saying it, people are going to wonder who has done that to him - and why. It makes him sound like a victim of some violent act (or at best, a sex offender who's been "treated" by the criminal justice system) and either way will give people completely wrong ideas about him, when the truth is much simpler.
Comment: #2
Posted by: Matt
Tue Oct 20, 2009 9:21 PM
If a guy kept giving me gifts and asking me out after I had already turned him down I would be creeped out. And did he say this had been going on for a year?
Comment: #3
Posted by: Breanna
Wed Oct 21, 2009 8:31 AM
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