creators home
creators.com lifestyle web
carrie pomerantz

Recently

Filing for Ex-Spousal Social Security Benefits Dear Carrie: I'm turning 65 in a few months and getting close to retiring. My ex is also turning 65, and as far as I know, he's still working. I would like to file for my ex-spouse's Social Security benefits but don't really want to talk to him …Read more. Can You Spend Money on Fun Without Feeling Guilty? Dear Carrie: I'm feeling a little overwhelmed by all the things I need to save for. From retirement and emergency funds to my son's college account and home repairs — on top of trying to pay extra on the mortgage and student loans — I …Read more. This Is What Marriage Equality Looks Like -- For Your Finances Dear Readers: When it comes to money, marriage changes things — a lot. From owning property to retirement planning to estate planning to filing taxes, the rules are different — and largely more favorable. And now that the Supreme Court …Read more. Should You Care About Rising Interest Rates? Dear Carrie: It seems pretty clear that after many years of below-normal levels, interest rates are about to start climbing. What does this mean for my investments and for my finances in general? — A Reader Dear Reader: Predicting when the …Read more.
more articles

Does a Surviving Spouse Always Collect 100 Percent of Social Security Benefits?

Comment

Dear Carrie: Does my wife collect 100 percent of my Social Security benefits at my death? Thank you. — Bert

Dear Bert: I wish I could provide you with a quick answer to such a straightforward question. But as with so many issues related to government programs, there are a number of factors that come into play. So yes, it is possible for your wife to collect 100 percent of your Social Security benefits after you die. But read on for some of the fine print.

Before we get into those details, I want to clarify that there is a difference between standard spousal Social Security benefits, which max out at 50 percent of the worker's benefit and survivor benefits, which can go as high as 100 percent.

In terms of survivor benefits, if you should die your wife's benefit will depend on three things: 1) when you begin to take your Social Security benefits 2) her age when she begins to collect survivors benefits and 3) whether or not you had started to collect benefits prior to your death.

Since I don't know the particulars of your situation, I'll just briefly lay out a few scenarios.

 

IF YOU TAKE YOUR BENEFITS AT FULL RETIREMENT AGE

The simplest is if you begin taking benefits at full retirement age (66 for those born between 1943 and 1954). That would mean you'd collect your full benefit and your wife, should you pass away before her, could then collect 100 percent of your benefits as long as she also was at full retirement age. This doesn't mean you absolutely have to start taking benefits at age 66. You could also choose to delay up to age 70. The advantage here is that the longer you delay taking Social Security, the larger your benefit—and the larger your wife's survivor's benefit—would be.

 

IF YOU TAKE YOUR BENEFITS EARLY

If you begin taking your Social Security benefits at 62, the earliest age you become eligible, your monthly benefit would be reduced permanently by about 25 percent. In this case, your wife's benefit is also affected. The IRS rules state that a widow or widower at full retirement age qualifies for 100 percent of what a spouse has been receiving . So if you opt to take Social Security early, upon your death, your wife would collect 100 percent of your reduced benefits.

Unfortunately, the IRS doesn't boost the benefit to the full rate when someone dies.

 

IF YOUR WIFE TAKES SURVIVOR BENEFITS EARLY

As I mentioned, a spouse at full retirement age can collect 100 percent of the deceased spouse's benefit. But a surviving spouse can begin to collect benefits at age 60 if necessary (or age 50, if disabled). In this case, however, the benefit is reduced by a small percentage for each month before the surviving spouse reaches full retirement age. This could potentially reduce the monthly benefit to between 71 percent and 99 percent of the full benefit.

For example, assuming that your wife's full retirement age is 66, if she started collecting survivor benefits at 60, she would get only 71.5 percent of your benefit. If she started at 62, she'd get 81 percent, and so on. The rationale is that by claiming benefits early, you receive them for a longer period of time so it potentially adds up to the same total. You can find a detailed chart of the various ages and percentages on the Social Security website at ssa.gov/suvivorplan.

 

IF YOU DIE BEFORE STARTING TO TAKE BENEFITS

Should you die before filing for benefits, no matter how old you are, once your wife reaches full retirement age she would qualify for 100 percent of the benefit you would have received (or her own benefit, whichever is greater). If she starts to collect early, however, it will be reduced as I just described.

 

STRATEGIES FOR TODAY

While your question concerns survivor benefits, you might also want to make sure you and your wife are maximizing the benefits you're entitled to today. For instance, if you've already filed for benefits, your wife could collect benefits either based on her own work history or the spousal benefit, whichever is higher.

If you haven't explored your various options, I suggest talking to your financial advisor to come up with the best strategy. You can also contact the Social Security administration. It offers information and counseling to help you weigh the different factors. You can speak to a Social Security counselor at your local SSA office or call 1-800-772-1213. Best of luck.

Carrie Schwab-Pomerantz, CERTIFIED FINANCIAL PLANNER(tm), is president of Charles Schwab Foundation and author of "It Pays to Talk." You can e-mail Carrie at askcarrie@schwab.com. This column is no substitute for an individualized recommendation, tax, legal or personalized investment advice. To find out more about Carrie Schwab-Pomerantz and read features by other Creators Syndicate writers and cartoonists, visit the Creators Syndicate website at www.creators.com.

COPYRIGHT 2011 CHARLES SCHWAB & CO., INC. MEMBER SIPC

DIST BY CREATORS SYNDICATE, INC.



Comments

11 Comments | Post Comment
I have started collecting social security at age 62. If my spouse should die before I do, (he will just turn 62 this year,) what percent of his social security can I collect?
Comment: #1
Posted by: doris serns
Tue Mar 12, 2013 7:47 AM
My husband's SS benefits started at age 62 because of how his retirement was worked out years ago with his employer. I was laid off and unable to find work for over 4 years and financially needed to start my own SS benefits early at 62 also. I understand that I cannot at 66 yrs have increased benefits from my husband's higher SS benefits. I am wondering if he dies before I do; am I eligible to have my SS benefits increased to his SS benefit amount or at least closer to his amount. There is approximately a $400.00 difference at this time (mine being the lesser amount). Thank you.
Comment: #2
Posted by: DM Book
Fri Oct 4, 2013 3:49 PM
My husband passed away at age 49 and I was 61. I collected $600 from social security at that time. I wanted to buy a house so at age 62 I went to my own social security which was $830. Can I go back and collect possibly more on my deceased husbands SS when I am of full retirement or older?

Sincerely,


S F Linden
Comment: #3
Posted by: serene faith linden
Sat Nov 16, 2013 9:29 AM
My husband was 49 when he passed away last month. I am 54 can I start collecting on his social security or do I have to wait until I am 60? I don't draw disability or any other benefits and neither did he...
Comment: #4
Posted by: Judy M.Collins
Mon Feb 10, 2014 5:32 AM
Hi, what about women who are much younger than their husbands. I'm 35 and my husband is 61 but he retired at 45 because he got hurt on the job and was never able to work again he is aslo disabled?
Comment: #5
Posted by: Horolen
Thu Feb 20, 2014 1:00 PM
I am 71 and my wife is now 50. If I die now or within the next few years - does my wife received my full social security benefits?
Comment: #6
Posted by: Dilawar Shareef
Tue Oct 28, 2014 1:52 PM
I turned 60, have a pension, listed as disabled in box 7 as code 3. My ex died. Should I file immediately or wait until 66 to get the maximum or does my status allow the maximum now?
Comment: #7
Posted by: Rainshower
Sat Feb 21, 2015 10:27 PM
I turned 60, have a pension, listed as disabled in box 7 as code 3. My ex died. Should I file immediately or wait until 66 to get the maximum or does my status allow the maximum now?
Comment: #8
Posted by: Rainshower
Sat Feb 21, 2015 10:27 PM
My husband died at age 62, he never applied or collected Social security benefits. I am 65 years old. What would be my spouse social security benefits that I am entitled and when should I apply for it in order to receive the maximum.
Comment: #9
Posted by: Junhui
Mon May 11, 2015 9:16 AM
With past away disable 13 year she 62 I became disable 57 now 59 no one let me no about srever
Comment: #10
Posted by: Marc Nelson
Fri Jun 26, 2015 3:28 PM

I am Williams Lender by name. Greetings to every one that is reading this testimony. I have been rejected by my husband after six(6) years of marriage just because another woman had a spell on him and he left me and the kid to suffer. one day when I was reading through the web, I saw a post on how this spell caster on this address ovodoobitemple@oath.com, have help a woman to get back her husband and I gave him a reply to his address and he told me that a woman had a spell on my husband and he told me that he will help me and after 3 days that I will have my husband back. I believed him and today I am glad to let you all know that this spell caster have the power to bring lovers back. because I am now happy with my husband. Thanks for Dr.Ovodo Obi His email:ovodoobitemple@oath.com or +233543388073 Good luck
Comment: #11
Posted by: Williams Lender
Fri Aug 28, 2015 1:47 AM
Already have an account? Log in.
New Account  
Your Name:
Your E-mail:
Your Password:
Confirm Your Password:

Please allow a few minutes for your comment to be posted.

Enter the numbers to the right:  
Creators.com comments policy
More
Carrie Schwab-Pomerantz
Aug. `15
Su Mo Tu We Th Fr Sa
26 27 28 29 30 31 1
2 3 4 5 6 7 8
9 10 11 12 13 14 15
16 17 18 19 20 21 22
23 24 25 26 27 28 29
30 31 1 2 3 4 5
About the author About the author
Write the author Write the author
Printer friendly format Printer friendly format
Email to friend Email to friend
View by Month