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Paws Off the Food Bar

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Dear Annie: Our town has a small grocery with popular hot and cold bars where customers can help themselves to deliciously prepared food. Lately, I have noticed a nicely dressed man at the store accompanied by his medium-sized dog. The man reaches into this food with his fingers and then lets his dog eat from his hand. This action is repeated several times.

When I complained to the two employees behind the customer service desk about the contaminated food being served to unsuspecting customers, they replied that they already knew. Then they added that the customer told them this is a seeing-eye dog and they have to allow it into the store. This cannot possibly be a seeing-eye dog. The man rides a bicycle to the store, and the dog is not on a harness. In fact, the dog often tugs at his leash to get the owner to follow wherever the dog wants to go. Either way, it is still unsanitary to allow the man to repeatedly pick up the food with his fingers and then feed the dog from his hand.

I watched this dog lick condensation off of the products (milk, dips, cheeses, etc.) in the open coolers on the lower shelves. No employees asked the man to restrain his dog, nor did they tell the deli employees to remove the contaminated food. At lunch, the unsuspecting consumers purchased this same "leftover dog food" to feed their families.

I debated calling the health department but figured they would have to catch the man in the act. What can I do? — Now Shopping at the Nearby Superstore

Dear Shopping: Even if this were a service dog (and it seems unlikely), it does not obligate the store to allow the animal to lick the milk cartons and be fed by hand directly from the food containers. Please call the health department and ask them to investigate. That will at least put the store on alert.

Dear Annie: My husband is driving me crazy. Everything I say, he says the opposite.

Even if I voice an opinion I know he shares, he'll take the opposite viewpoint. If I say I don't want something, he says, "Yes, you do." If I say I want to go somewhere, he'll say, "No, you don't."

He also belittles the books I read. Every TV show I like, he says, "It's dumb." If it belongs to me, he says, "Let's get rid of it." Whatever I want to do is not worth doing. And on and on and on.

I was making the bed yesterday and told him it wasn't necessary for him to watch, and he said, "Yes, it is." Why do you think he does this? How can I get him to stop? — Enough Already

Dear Enough: How long have you been married to this contrarian? Has he always been this annoying? Frankly, it sounds like he enjoys pushing your buttons and demeaning your choices because it gives him control over you. So instead of getting angry or frustrated, ignore him. Smile sweetly and say, "Absolutely, darling," while you continue to watch your programs and read your books. Of course, if the situation becomes worse, consider counseling.

Dear Annie: This is for "Montreal Fan," whose father lets his secretary smoke in the office. He should know better.

It is against the law in Montreal to smoke in all public buildings and in ANY office, private or not. If the father allows her to continue smoking, he is breaking the law. He should get rid of this secretary or force her to go outside to smoke like everyone else. — Non-Smoker in Montreal

Dear Montreal: If Dad refuses to do anything about the smoking, someone else will have to report it to the authorities. In a private office, that means a client or one of the children, and apparently, none of them is willing to get Dad in trouble with the law.

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LW1 - after you get off the phone with the health dept, call the local paper. Take a picture with the camera in your cell phone (assuming you have one) and send that to the paper. Tell your friends what you see.
LW2 - agree with Annie's to stop engaging with your hubby because he's thriving on picking on you. Consider whether you are better off with this guy or without him because living with people who devote their energies to annoying you is no way to spend your life.
Comment: #1
Posted by: kai archie
Sat Mar 31, 2012 9:32 PM
LW1, use your phone to take some photos of man/bites/dog, then furnish them to the Health Department so it has proof, and they don't have to catch the guy in the act. You can also show the store manager or even the district manager, since no one seems willing to do anything. Even if this is a seeing eye dog, the store doesn't have to allow it to be fed by hand from community food containers. You might also see if you can't get some photos of the "seeing eye dog" with the man riding his bike.

LW2, it may be easier to manipulate him than you think. If he wants to get rid of your stuff, "I'm getting rid of this old furniture of mom's and getting new, I don't care what you say or how much it costs." He may not be aware how argumentative he is--sometimes it just becomes habit. If he says that the book you're reading is dumb, you can say that you're reading it only to pihiss him off, with a big smile on your face. You're not yet showing him how much you want to antagonize him, so you need to smile slyly to show that your whole goal in life is to irritate/annoy/harass. You DON'T ignore him--you manipulate him, you say "Look! You're annoyed again--ha ha!" And there's always "Oh, you still think I care about your opinion--how sad." The good news is, you're smarter than anyone who does this--it will be so easy to manipulate him, you'll have a wonderful time. Then you can decide if you want to keep the guy when you are smarter and nicer than he is.
Comment: #2
Posted by: angoradeb
Sat Mar 31, 2012 9:43 PM
* * * * PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT * * * *

LW3 refers to the second letter on 22 February 2012.

Comment: #3
Posted by: Miss Pasko
Sat Mar 31, 2012 11:23 PM
LW1: Ew. Ew, ew, ew. And ew.

If it's at all possible to call April Fool's on this one, that's what I'm doing. If I saw that happening another store would have my money no matter how much I loved their hot and cold food bars. If they allow that, who knows what else is going on in that store?

And did I mention ew? :p

LW2: Maybe I'm going overboard, but to me this verges on emotional abuse. To be told day in and day out that everything you do, say or like is stupid, wrong and dumb would be wearing, to say the least. I think the Annies are smoking their usual blend, because just agreeing with him isn't going to make him stop. Personally, I would be making the bed in my new, very own apartment. And it would be a single bed.
Comment: #4
Posted by: Shaindy
Sat Mar 31, 2012 11:30 PM
LW2: My father and mother both do this to me and it's horrible. Half the time they do it because they want to play the part of mentor/teacher, and they want the last word in every conversation. It's like they're talking back to me when there's no need. The rest of the time they're doing it to get me angry so that they can criticize me and make me look like the aggressor. This is the kind of behavior we see in a control freak.

Sorry to break this to you sweeties, but your husband is a pig.
Comment: #5
Posted by: Stanley
Sun Apr 1, 2012 12:04 AM
LW2: My father and mother both do this to me and it's horrible. Half the time they do it because they want to play the part of mentor/teacher, and they want the last word in every conversation. It's like they're talking back to me when there's no need. The rest of the time they're doing it to get me angry so that they can criticize me and make me look like the aggressor. This is the kind of behavior we see in a control freak.

Sorry to break this to you sweeties, but your husband is a pig.
Comment: #6
Posted by: Stanley
Sun Apr 1, 2012 12:05 AM
I can't believe LW1 isn't an April Fool's joke! Why on EARTH would the LW keep going back to that store? If I reported that to the store personnel and they refused to do anything about it, I'd never set foot in the place again AND I'd warn others not to patronize the store either, in addition to reporting it to the Health Department. Taking pictures of the man and dog in the act is a good idea, but that would be the ONLY reason I'd ever go to that store again. If a true story, EWWWW doesn't even begin to cover this one!
Comment: #7
Posted by: Kitty
Sun Apr 1, 2012 3:02 AM
LW1 -
*IF* this is not a sick April Fool's joke... Take pictures of the dog in action, take pictures of the man riding his bike with his "seeing dog" trotting along, then go over the head of whoever you've talked to so far and show a printout. If nothing changes, send the pictures to the local paper and to the Health Department. That man's behaviour makes him a complete pig, and the employees are no better for not only tolerating it, but actually defending it. WTF is their problem, doesn't anyone has any sense of basic hygiene in that place? "Deliciously prepared" food my popo, do they even wash their hands? Eeeeeew.

LW2-
And speaking of pigs... If you listen to the Annies, you'll end up with no self-esteem whatsoever and ripe for an escalation of the abuse.

I have bad news for you. Your husband is a virulent mysogynist, control freak and abuser and he hates your guts. He will not rest until he's totally broken your mind, you're sleeping with the enemy. The Annies are out to lunch as usual and siding with an abuser. He will not change. Counselling will not help. Even if he ever agrees to go, it'll be to fix YOU - been there, seen that. He'll lie to the therapist and manipulate him/her to make you look like the crazy one - seen that too. Forget the mamby-pamby "make-nice", worse than useless "advice" from the resident idiots in stereo, and DTMFA. Now. Every minute more you grant him is more erosion of your self, and more damage to be undone later at the therapist's.

P.S.: How long have you been putting up with this yurunda?
Comment: #8
Posted by: Lise Brouillette
Sun Apr 1, 2012 4:18 AM
LW1: Please be an April Fools. If not, then not even service animals are allowed to do what this dog is doing. Yes to all the above suggestions, take pictures, call the health department, write the local papers, heck, run up some flyers with a warning and plaster all the cars parked in the parking lot of this store. Yuck.

LW2: If you love this man, and there are other good reasons to stay married, and you don't think counseling will help, can you try to make a game of it? Every time he contradicts you, change your mind and agree with him. Try to come up with dome silly way to make it bearable.

Otherwise, if you can't, then maybe more drastic action is needed. And how long has he been this way? Is this an old personality trait that's just been slowly getting worse over the years, or is it a sudden change in recent years? Because abrupt changes in personality could indicate some medical or psychological issue.
Comment: #9
Posted by: Mike H
Sun Apr 1, 2012 4:27 AM
Once again I have to be the voice or reason here BTL! LW1 needs to shop for her husbands meals at LW2's fine store. Then when her husband gets Parvo or rabies, she will just have to shoot him. It would be too cruel to let him suffer. Think people - this is not rocket science.
Comment: #10
Posted by: Penny
Sun Apr 1, 2012 5:40 AM
Re: Shaindy

I fully agree with you on LW2.

It's hard to believe that the Annies and some of the other posters are suggesting that sweet talking, or joking, or any other type of manipulation is going to solve this problem. What the LW is describing is emotional ABUSE.

LIke any other type of abuse, there is no amount of cajoling that is going to get this to stop. My suggestion to the LW is to get into therapy to see why you would tolerate this. As the Annies said, I too wonder how long you've been putting up with this? Is this a recent development? If it is recent, I would get HIM to a doctor because this type of behavior is typical of onset of dementia. If it has been ongoing, you need to decide if you are going to continue to be beaten down verbally at every turn. If you want out, handle it the same way you would if he was beating you up physically, because he will use the same tactics (being nice to get you back, then go back to status quo) to get you back under his control.

When I was in divorce court, one of the cases in front of me (both parties represented by attorneys and not in the courtroom) was an abuse case. The husband's attorney was fighting a motion from the wife's attorney asking for a restraining order against the husband because he (the lawyer) said emotional abuse isn't putting the wife in any danger. The judge was very clear: emotional abuse is still ABUSE. The restraining order was granted.

I was heartened to hear this: many here BTL know I was a victim of domestic violence in my marriage. At one point, the police (the POLICE!!!) told me to "Go home and make your husband a nice dinner.... he'll feel better then". What a load! When you tell a victim of emotional abuse to "sweet talk him" or "joke with him" you are in essense telling the victim that they are at fault, that it's something they are doing that makes the abuse acceptable. It's NOT acceptable, it's abhorant. The LW needs counseling and probably a REALLY good lawyer!
Comment: #11
Posted by: nanchan
Sun Apr 1, 2012 5:44 AM
LW1--"...When I complained to the two employees behind the customer service desk about the contaminated food being served to unsuspecting customers..." Dear god if I have to read another letter about an ignorant obsessive germophobe I'm going to scream! For one thing, nothing was "contaminated" as you so sensationally proclaim. As someone with an undergrad degree in microbiology I can assure you that the man's hand carries more germs (bacteria, dead viruses, the like) than his dog's mouth. Multiply that by the hundreds of hands that reach into the self-serve food bars and the dog becomes the least of your concern. Moreover, current society's obsession with anit-bacterial everything is actually HARMING more people than protecting them. In fact, they do a great deal of damage, both to human health and that of the environment. Triclosan and triclocarban are the typical additives marketed as "anti-bacterial". Why are they bad? In a word - Superbugs! By killing off the weaker, susceptible germs, all the resources are then left for the stronger more resistant strains; with no competition left, they quickly become dominant which is bad for everyone! My advice to you is simply go elsewhere but it won't matter; make no mistake, bacteria and other germs are everywhere: on every surface, button, coin, door handle, human, plant and animal. They were here before us and they'll be here long after the human race is irradiated.

LW2--"Why do you think he does this? How can I get him to stop?" Your husband's behavior would have lasted less than five minutes in my company. How damn annoying! Your husband obviously has zero respect for you and probably views you as his personal servant and occasional consort. His little game of incessant belittlement, as if you're a toddler, serves to tear down your confidence, eliminate your self-esteem and leave you beholden to "daddy" for every decision you make. It's a form of abuse. The next time your husband pulls this crap, you stop what you're doing, immediately whirl around and stick your finger in his face and your other hand firmly around his balls. Get up good and close and you say "shut up!" "I'm an independent, free thinking, intelligent ADULT." "Unless you want to lose me and the family jewels, you'll remember that from now on!" Then walk away. Rinse and repeat.
Comment: #12
Posted by: Chris
Sun Apr 1, 2012 6:01 AM
Re: Chris

The next time your husband pulls this crap, you stop what you're doing, immediately whirl around and stick your finger in his face and your other hand firmly around his balls. Get up good and close and you say "shut up!" "I'm an independent, free thinking, intelligent ADULT." "Unless you want to lose me and the family jewels, you'll remember that from now on!" Then walk away. Rinse and repeat.

standing up, clapping, stomping, and cheering
I'm sorry, but you made me double over laughing, I pictured these two middle aged, pudgy , Ralph and Alice's bickering with each other for 20 years, then one day she does what you say, HYSTERICAL: I then saw Ralph's eyes bug out and Alice say, RIGHT TO THE MOON, RALPH, your little, little, pruny, dried up marbles are going right to the moon. I love your posts,

Nanchan, great post, as usual, you are right on, as usual. one of the best, as usual
Comment: #13
Posted by: Bloom Hilda
Sun Apr 1, 2012 6:40 AM
LW1: If you have noticed that it is not a seeing eye dog, why not tell THAT to the storeowner? Maybe the owner is not ware that the man rides a bike and doesn't have the dog on a harness. AND, even though seeing eye dogs are allowed in stores, they are not allowed to contaminate the edible merchandise. THe store owner could get sued if someone gets sick. Dogs like the ground and themselves, and other dogs. They should not be 2nd-hand-touching food. If i were you, I'd tell the storeowner what you know, and then stop going to that store. I suppose you could instead call the Better Business Bureau and see if they can help?

LW2: Sorry to say, but your husband has fallen out of love with you. It sounds as though he does not like you. I'm sure you are quite likable, but he seems like a boor and a jerk, who is immature and controlling. If you don't have kids yet, make an exit fast. He's not going to stop.
Comment: #14
Posted by: Salty
Sun Apr 1, 2012 6:51 AM
Re: Chris
Please Google "parasites that can be transmitted to humans" and you'll see that we're not necessarily talking about ticks and fleas here. I certainly wouldn,t want to be infected with roundworm among others because I've been unknowingly sharing a plate with a dog.

Comment: #15
Posted by: Lise Brouillette
Sun Apr 1, 2012 7:10 AM
@ Lise Brouillette

"Please Google "parasites that can be transmitted to humans" and you'll see that we're not necessarily talking about ticks and fleas here."

And yet this nicely dressed man is still alive and well. As is per usual, the mania over germs is making people paranoid to the point of acting hysterically; including you apparently. Instead of Googling ill-informed blogs of people who are uneducated and prone to spouting junk science. Let's face some real facts Lise. The chance of this privately owned dog (owned by a nicely dressed gentleman - read of means) having such parasites is minimal. But as I said, the dog isn't the problem! Almost everyone has parasites. It's simply a fact of life. Ninety percent of humans will have a problem with parasites in their lifetime. The CDC (Center for Disease Control and Prevention) estimates that over sixty million people in the United States are likely infected with Toxoplasma gondii, a parasite associated with raw meat and contact with cat feces. A report on food borne parasites prepared for the Food Research Institute at the University of Wisconsin–Madison cited an estimated two and a half million cases of food and waterborne Giardia lamblia and three million cases of Cryptosporidium parvum in the U.S. alone. Both of these protozoan parasites are transmitted through drinking water contaminated with the fecal material of infected persons. There are more than a hundred different types of parasites who enjoy living out their lives inside of human beings and due to poor diagnostics and symptoms that mimic common ailments most infected people DON'T KNOW they're carriers. Think about that before you take a bite at your next potluck, salad bar, buffet restaurant, or "free" food sample at your local grocery.
Comment: #16
Posted by: Chris
Sun Apr 1, 2012 7:25 AM
Re: Chris
Chris, I would love your professional opinion on this, I read in the NYT on the plane that many Chi Chi New York restaurants have pushed serving tap water vs, bottled expensive waters like Evian or Aquafina. Each table brochure stated that the city water in New Your, which would be supplied for free, was superior to 95% of bottled waters, The reason was that the city water in most municipalitites is tested by law twice a day for impurities, Bottled water is not under any obligation to be tested, and was found to be far dirtier and germier than water from the tap. It also noted that two major bottled water companies that are the most popular were actually using tap water from NYC and bottling it, these waters were not from a silver spring or mountain brook. Foreign water, ie, from France or Italy which is much more expensive, found that most of the factories were only tested every six months, or not at all, and all of the purity standards were far below ours.
bottled water was much more expensive and New Yorkers were ordering it in fine restaurants for 7 or 8 dollars a bottle, It was incredibly more unpure than New York city water. The reason New York was pushing city water was in order to curb the incredible amount of water bottles used daily in New York. I have friends that wouldn't drink tap water if you put a gun to their head, and I have never bought a bottle of water in my life. The tap is fine or me.
Chris, what do you think about this?


Chris, what do you think?
Comment: #17
Posted by: Bloom Hilda
Sun Apr 1, 2012 8:20 AM
Re: Salty

One of things I picked up on in this letter was that the LW called the dog a "seeing eye dog". It's kind of common for people to think that a service dog is only for the visually impaired. But service dogs are not only for the visually impaired. The man riding a bicycle could be suffering from any number of ailments: it's not uncommon for people who are depressed to have service dogs, autistic people are given service dogs, last week on the Today show, they had a little girl who had a service dog with her to carry her oxygen tank.

I think we as a culture need to realize the power of our canine friends more. People use service dogs for many reasons, we can't assume he's blind just because he has a service dog.

Chris: totally agree with you. If we all died from germs, we'd never even be born. I've even heard some people say that "doggy kisses" cure diseases: I won't go that far, but know from experience, that a dog's love can certainly change your life and make you a happier person. If that means that every once and awhile, she gets a bite off my plate, so be it. She gives me a lot more.
Comment: #18
Posted by: nanchan
Sun Apr 1, 2012 8:34 AM
Lise is correct. This is classic emotional abuse. It's called "countering." It's meant to make you feel crazy. It's meant to make you doubt your own perceptions of the world; he's trying to convince you he ALWAYS knows better.

See: youarenotcrazy.com for examples (click the quiz on top.)

If you read the book "Why Does He Do That? Inside the minds of angry and controlling men" by Lundy Bancroft you'll begin to understand this behavior better.
Comment: #19
Posted by: Johanna
Sun Apr 1, 2012 8:43 AM
Re: Bloom Hilda

Your post to Chris (17) reminded me of something that happened to my daughter in her last year of high school.

She took a home ec class and since she's been cooking since she was 10, she ended up teaching the teacher a lot. One day, the teacher (who was probably about 24 or so) asked the kids what they would do if they ran out of bottled water. All the kids in the class just freaked out: how can they drink water that isn't bottled? One mentioned getting a Gevalia filter for the tap, and that the filter would save them a lot of money

My own daughter said "You idiots, you just drink the TAP WATER with no filter! They have laws that regulate it. Man."

Apple doesn't fall too far from the tree, I'm proud to say!
Comment: #20
Posted by: nanchan
Sun Apr 1, 2012 8:43 AM
Re: Chris

Chris, I would love your professional opinion on this, I read in the NYT on the plane that many Chi Chi New York restaurants have pushed serving tap water vs bottled expensive waters like Evian or Aquafina. Each table brochure stated that the city water in New York, which would be supplied for free, was superior to 95% of bottled waters, The reason was that the city water in most municipalitites is tested by law twice a day for impurities, Bottled water is not under any obligation to be tested, and was found to be far dirtier and germier than water from the tap. It also noted that two major bottled water companies that are the most popular, were actually using tap water from NYC and bottling it, these waters were not from a silver spring or mountain brook. Foreign water, ie, from France or Italy which is much more expensive, found that most of the factories were only tested every six months, or not at all, and all of the purity standards were far below ours, if there even were any. B74965ottled water was much more expensive and New Yorkers were ordering it in fine restaurants for 7 or 8 dollars a bottle, It was incredibly more unpure than New York city water. The reason New York was pushing city water was in order to curb the incredible amount of water bottles used daily in New York. I have friends that wouldn't drink tap water if you put a gun to their head, and I have never bought a bottle of water in my life. The tap is fine or me.
Chris, what do you think about this?


Chris, what do you think?
Comment: #21
Posted by: Bloom Hilda
Sun Apr 1, 2012 9:22 AM
Re: Penny

Brilliant. And so much easier than putting ground glass in his food.
Comment: #22
Posted by: angoradeb
Sun Apr 1, 2012 9:44 AM
@ Bloom Hilda

In my opinion, the bottled water craze is, perhaps one of the most ridiculously successful scams ever perpetrated on modern society. I find it utterly bizarre that people will pay several dollars for bottled water on a plant that whose surface is 71%f water! Over the past decade, per-capita consumption of bottled water in the U.S. has more than doubled. Reports estimate that use equates to 200 bottles per year, per person. There's a good reason why Evian is naive spelled backwards. Moreover, your research into the cleanliness quality of bottled water is spot on. A tap water challenge was staged around the country in 2008 to see if people could tell the difference between plain old water that comes out of the faucet and very expensive bottled water. Surprise, surprise...tap water won out most of the time. Environmental groups have for years claimed that bottled water is less safe than tap water and recently, even the federal government has stepped in to say that's true. While municipal water utilities are required to provide public reports of test results, bottled-water makers are not. So although you may fork over a pretty penny for bottled water, that doesn't mean it's any better than what's coming out of your faucet. In fact, it could be worse and you'd never know it. Bottled water contains more bacteria than tap water, with some brands found to harbor levels 100 times above permitted limits (are you reading this Lise?) The high levels of bacteria in bottled water could pose a risk for vulnerable populations such as pregnant women, infants, immuno-compromised patients and the elderly. Bottled water is a scam people! If you want to look "cool" with your Evian, then re-fill an empty bottle from the tap.
Comment: #23
Posted by: Chris
Sun Apr 1, 2012 9:48 AM
For wife married to contrarian : The perfect respone which worked for me was to tell my contrarian husband " okay Honey, I will let you be right." After a couple weeks, he realized he wasn't in control by his choice but by mine and he let up on his stifling ways.
Comment: #24
Posted by: Sharon
Sun Apr 1, 2012 11:16 AM
Re: Chris
Actually, I did the Google search to have fast references to quote, I have seen numerous documentaries on TV about this. There is even a series on that on one of the French Cable channels. In fact, it's on right now.

This is not the first time this subject comes up, we've been through all this before, so I knew all that. So the man is well and alive, meaning he is not affected even if possibly infected. That is not the case for everyone. When it does affect humans adversely, it is so destructive that I would rather not chance that the one in a million case be me. Keep in mind that what they're doing is illegal, and there is a reason for that.

I'm well aware of the fact that people living in uber-sanitixed conditions are actually sick more often that the rest of the population, because they have no defenses. The recycled toys I buy are often quite filthy - washing and sanitising them is one of the things I have to do to make them worth more money than I bought them for. I spend so much time working that the house is not as clean as I would like it to be. I am hardly a germophobe myself - thank God, because I couldn't do what I do. But parasites are another matter. Even with the risk being low, I'll not take it, and personally I would not eat that food once I knew of what's happening to it.

As for my salad, I wash every vegetable (except mushrooms *) before I prepare it, whether it be for raw consumption or for a dish - that series sure taught me never to neglect that indeed. If there ARE parasites, hopefully they will have been washed away. Washing doesn't offer protection against e-coli though (there HAVE been several recalls of infected fruit and vegetables), which must be cooked to disappear but, as for December 21, 2012, I'm not going to worry about what I can't control. ;-)

* Mushroom have to be wiped clean or peeled. The water content of mushrooms is extremely high. Wash them and you drown them - they'll taste watery regardless of how carefully you dry them afterwards.

Comment: #25
Posted by: Lise Brouillette
Sun Apr 1, 2012 11:24 AM
@Chris
Re bottled water -
About this I agree with you 100%. I have had many fine old rows with one of my good friends, who is one of those who wouldn't drink tap water if you put a gun to her head. All the studies I cited don't make a dent in her thinking. But then, as I always say, you can't reason someone out of an opinjon that wasn't acquired through reasoning, and the bottled water debate with her is an ongoing case in point.

The problem is that she is on pension, before that she was on Welfare, and wasting money on bottled water is one of the many ways she misspends her money while being 2-3 months behind in her rent.
Comment: #26
Posted by: Lise Brouillette
Sun Apr 1, 2012 11:35 AM
Re: Lise:

" Actually, I did the Google search to have fast references to quote, I have seen numerous documentaries on TV about this. There is even a series on that on one of the French Cable channels. In fact, it's on right now.

"The problem is that she is on pension, before that she was on Welfare, and wasting money on bottled water is one of the many ways she misspends her money while being 2-3 months behind in her rent."


I'm sorry folks I tried to give it a rest, but my ears are blowing off and my eyeballs are popping out:

She's telling a microbioklogist about germs because she watches TV ,
She's giving someone on welfare financial counseling

I can't take it.'

Dear Lord, please make me a better person, please give me patience in the presence of horrible adversity, please don't make my eyeballs pop out, I'm supposed to go out to dinner tonight;

Amen


Comment: #27
Posted by: Bloom Hilda
Sun Apr 1, 2012 12:25 PM
I knew that wouldn't take long. Surprised it took almost an hour.

Comment: #28
Posted by: Jpp
Sun Apr 1, 2012 12:37 PM
Re; jpp , I think in this case Bloomie was baited. That was just too funny. Bloomie, tape some dixie cups over your eyes and get to an emergency room right now!
Comment: #29
Posted by: Penny
Sun Apr 1, 2012 2:32 PM
Penny, I have to agree. It was almost too easy.
Comment: #30
Posted by: Jpp
Sun Apr 1, 2012 2:51 PM
Heh. Chris, for myself, I don't believe the dog's transmitting dangerous germs, I just think it's gross! :-)
Comment: #31
Posted by: Mike H
Sun Apr 1, 2012 3:28 PM
LW2 As a teacher, I became aware of ODD: Oppositional Defiant Disorder. When a person who would say "up" is "down" and "sunny" is "rainy", I tried this: I lovingly called him my "Mr. Opposite", and predicted that he would always contradict me. Because he was intelligent, this put a stop to it, for the most part.
Comment: #32
Posted by: Joyce Winter
Sun Apr 1, 2012 3:41 PM
@Jpp, @Penny, you know what's even easier? Not making gratuitously insulting comments at all.
Comment: #33
Posted by: Mike H
Sun Apr 1, 2012 4:07 PM
LW1: Almost every phone has video capabilities so go ahead and film and post on youtube. Get the names of the employees you spoke with who admitted they knew and did nothing and report them to the health department along with this freak.

LW2: You must be desperate to be married if you married someone who hates you so much that he goes out of his way to harass you on a daily basis.
Comment: #34
Posted by: Diana
Sun Apr 1, 2012 4:08 PM
@ Mike H

Yes, you hit the nail right on the head. A man feeding a dog from an open food bar is superficially gross. (And, btw, I agree - yuck!) Why don't people just say "look, I think it's disgusting watching that man feed his dog from the buffet." Why even involve the store or the health department? Tell the man to his face! No, instead people cook up all sorts of nonsense about hypothetical parasite or germ transmissions just to avoid admitting they're grossed out or to avoid a confrontation. I'm sure most dogs' mouths are cleaner than many peoples' mouths which is why in the bad old days dogs were employed to lick soldiers wounds to keep them from becoming infected.
Comment: #35
Posted by: Chris
Sun Apr 1, 2012 5:00 PM
Re: Chris
And then perhaps one in a million soldier ended up dying from a parasitic disease after the dog's lick saved his life from infection... ;-D

Joking apart, keep in mind that he already did tell them to their faces - he addressed two employees with his complaint and was poo-pooed, and even given some folderol about the man's dog being a seeing-eye dog, which would be yurunda even if it wasn't patently untrue - since when is it any less gross if the dog is a seeing-eye dog? Bleh.

Comment: #36
Posted by: Lise Brouillette
Sun Apr 1, 2012 5:23 PM
Ref LW1: I agree with Chris - never mind the dog. The real issue is the man putting his fingers into food. I live in Las Vegas where we have a huge number of buffets. At every one of them, you never touch food until AFTER it is on your plate. From the buffet to the plate MUST be done with provided utensils. Isn't that common sense???

BTW, the dog could be a service dog in training and so doesn't look like a service dog. But, whether in training or actually working it should be wearing a vest that says it is a service dog. And licking food containers as it walks by should be a behavior that is not tolerated by a trainer!
Comment: #37
Posted by: JH
Sun Apr 1, 2012 5:31 PM
LW2: This man does not love you. Leave now.
Comment: #38
Posted by: Landru
Sun Apr 1, 2012 6:17 PM
I assume the buffet is an all-you-can-eat or pay-by-item deal. Either way, the dog appears to be eating for free. Next time, bring a friend with you and start feeding him or her from the buffet--using your hands, of course. See how quickly the staff reacts, and ask them to explain why their 2-for-1 policy doesn't apply to humans.
Comment: #39
Posted by: Baldrz
Sun Apr 1, 2012 7:58 PM
Re: Baldrz
Hee hee, I LIKE it!

Comment: #40
Posted by: Lise Brouillette
Mon Apr 2, 2012 5:15 AM
Notice that the contributors on this board claim that the husband mentioned by LW2 is emotionally abusing his wife.

YET, just a week or two ago, they refused such labels for a woman who constantly insulted her husband. After all, he probably likes it, they concluded.

I love the ridiculous sexism and double standards on this forum.

Bhwahahahaha
Comment: #41
Posted by: John Dung
Mon Apr 2, 2012 11:06 AM
Not sure where the Annie's got the idea this was "bonding." Just sounds to me like MIL has gotten hold of a good thing after one generous offer and is milking it. I love Lisa's Idea Number 4. "Bond" right back at her. If she is doing it without any ill will or selfishness, she won't mind a bit. Or if it starts to pinch a bit and she only has the best of intentions she'll start seeing that it's not so fun going to your closet for your yellow frilly summer blouse and having it gone. If she is being an over-reacher, she may get a bit upset, but if she's such a great gal as she's supposed to be, she'll maybe learn her lesson and move on. Offering to take her shopping might be nice, but I doubt sincerely that that's going to help this problem.

(sorry if this double posts--it kept saying incorrect Captcha)
Comment: #42
Posted by: Francie H
Mon Apr 2, 2012 2:34 PM
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