"There is nothing more painful to me at this stage of my life than to walk down the street and hear footsteps and start thinking about robbery — then look around and see somebody white and feel relieved."
Rev. Jesse Jackson, speaking at the PUSH convention in 1993.
"(W)hen I get on the plane, I got to tell you, if I see people who are in Muslim garb and I think, you know, they are identifying themselves first and foremost as Muslims, I get worried. I get nervous."
Juan Williams, on Bill O'Reilly's show, for which he was fired.
I wish I didn't get nervous seeing black men behind me on the street. I wish there was no correlation between race and crime.
I wish 100 percent of the terrorists who attacked us on 9/11 had not been members of one religion. I wish we didn't hear diatribes on a daily basis threatening our children and us in the name of Allah. I wish I didn't get nervous seeing Muslims on a plane.
But firing Juan Williams won't make it so.
What exactly was he fired for? According to National Public Radio, "His remarks on "The O'Reilly Factor" this past Monday were inconsistent with our editorial standards and practices, and undermined his credibility as a news analyst with NPR." Come again?
I've known Juan for decades. He is not a bigot. He went on to warn O'Reilly against blaming all Muslims for the actions of extremists, just as all Christians should not be blamed for the likes of Timothy McVeigh or all Catholics for the death of Dr. George Tiller or all Jews for the death of Prime Minister Rabin.
Is it really inconsistent with "editorial standards and practices" for a "news analyst" to honestly express his opinions on another network? Or was it because it was Fox News?
Juan and I have been contributors to Fox News for more than a decade. We're part of the "balance" in "fair and balanced." I've taken heat for it from my Democratic friends, and he's taken heat from others at NPR. My answer — and I expect his, as well — is that because of the strong conservative voices heard on Fox, it is all the more important for there to be strong voices expressing other views.
You could certainly make a case that reporters should stick to reporting and not cross the line between reporting the news and expressing opinions about it. But that line gets crossed every Sunday morning and most days in between.
Besides, Juan's title at NPR was "analyst." On O'Reilly's show, he was clearly expressing an opinion — one shared, painfully, by many people. Others are free to disagree, on both Fox News and NPR. But to fire an analyst for expressing an honest opinion violates the very principles of free expression and the First Amendment on which NPR so often prides itself.
I have no doubt that Juan will be just fine. I'm sure there will be plenty of room for him at Fox. I'm sure conservatives will rush to make him their hero and use his firing as a weapon with which to attack NPR.
As an NPR listener, that saddens me. Public radio doesn't have to be politically correct radio. NPR does many wonderful things. This was not one of them. I fear that in the end, NPR — and its listeners — will pay the price.
To find out more about Susan Estrich and read features by other Creators Syndicate writers and cartoonists, visit the Creators Syndicate website at www.creators.com.
This is an excellent article by Susan, especially considering the fact that she is a liberal. NPR shot themselves in the foot on this one. By firing Juan Williams here they help Fox look like they really are “fair and balanced”. If he had been acting as an anchor reporting the news then I agree his comments would have been out of line, but on Fox he is just the token liberal talking head who will have more credibility with their conservative audience if he acknowledges things most of the rest of us are thinking.
I likewise commend Susan for acknowledging “I wish I didn't get nervous seeing black men behind me on the street. I wish there was no correlation between race and crime.” As a person who happens to have been born white I have over the course of years been in a few remote places where I had reason to be concerned about approaching black people. Likewise, black people should reasonably be concerned about approaching white people in some of the places I have been. To recognize that there is racism and religious fanaticism doesn't make one a racist or a bigot.
Let me just say that if racism or religion doesn't destroy us first, then Political Correctness will.
Wade Mathias
Something else I just thought of concerning this matter. I have seen Juan state very controversial liberal opinions on Fox before. NPR didn't fire him for any of that. By firing him for this they give to Fox the appearance of being more “liberal” than they are.
One more thing - The anchors on the mainstream news strongly tend to wear their political viewpoints on their sleeves. I find Lester Holt to be the exception. I keep watching him to see if he will give away his personal point of view. Until he does I will tend to watch him over all others. Personally, I would prefer to be a pundit like Juan is on Fox rather than an anchor of the evening news. But I do prefer anchors to act like anchors rather than pundits.
Suzie the only good thing about it is the fact it could lead to getting stopping taxpayer dollars going to this extreme left wing organization. Let hope. If NPR exists at all it should have to compete in the private sector.
Comment: #3
Posted by: Paul
Thu Oct 21, 2010 7:02 PM
I completely do not understand the your motives. Susan you say "As an NPR listener, that saddens me. Public radio doesn't have to be politically correct radio. NPR does many wonderful things. This was not one of them. I fear that in the end, NPR — and its listeners — will pay the price."
So if you think NPR does mostly good things and occasionally makes a mistake - like this - why on earth would you bring this unfortunate incident to the forefront of the media if it may ultimately hurt the radio station you say you listen to and that 'does many wonderful things' in your own words? It appears that you used this incident to exploit yourself and your article writing abilities, that's all I can deduct from this. I think this is a bit selfish, shortsighted and sad - just as sad and shortsighted as the decision from NPR was to fire this gentleman.
Comment: #4
Posted by: Bill
Thu Oct 21, 2010 10:48 PM
I suspect that there was more to the firing of Mr. Williams than what was stated in the several (and somewhat inconsistent) NPR statements on the matter. I wonder if a group-think mindset has settled in at NPR HQ, and Williams wasn't a part of the NPR "club". If so, some new fresh blood is urgently needed. The BBC recently went through a bit of a shakeup, and came out the better for it. What outside agent has the clout to get the NPR execs to open the figurative windows and let some fresh intellectual breeze freshen the office air?
-- Bob Elkind
Comment: #5
Posted by: bob elkind
Fri Oct 22, 2010 1:41 AM
Dear Ms. Estrich,
A couple of years ago Liberal columnist Mark Shields came as close to stating the NYT had a Liberal bias w/o actually stating it in those words.
My question to you is do you believe the big city newspapers, and major news outlets have a Liberal bias, or do you think they're Fair and Balanced? For me, the Dan Rather episode had to be the nail that hammared the final nail in that coffin. More to the point, like pornography, I know it when I see it.
The big city newspapers support every Liberal person and position regardless. Example: they supported president Obama & VP Biden over Senator McCain even though VP Biden was known to be a huge plagiarizer! Now, they're supporting Blumenthal, who LIED big time about being in Vietnam.
Nuff Said...Dennis
Comment: #6
Posted by: Dennis
Fri Oct 22, 2010 2:19 AM
Re: Bill
Estrich faces the storm bravely while you wish to sweep this under the rug. You've become too used to having liberals shielded by what once was mainstream media. This is today's hot topic and Estrich just wrote the best column in the country. Don't ask others to lie for you (by omission) and then behave above it all. This is the rotten side of liberalism on display and it needs to be addressed with honesty and humility. These qualities have been in short supply to the left as you have just demonstrated.
Comment: #7
Posted by: Tom
Fri Oct 22, 2010 3:22 AM
What's the difference between Fox News and NPR? $1.8M from the wonderful progressive loving George Soros! Is NPR a far left (Marxist) organization? You bet ya!
Where-o-where is McCarthy when we need him?
Comment: #9
Posted by: Early
Fri Oct 22, 2010 5:52 AM
Nice article Ms. Estrich !!!
When I heard Juan Williams comments about his “feelings”, I too immediately thought of the Rev. Jesse Jackson quote you provided above.
I have listened to NPR many times in the past as it is a good source to get the latest LIBERAL propaganda about an issue. NPR has never had journalistic integrity before or after it employed Juan Williams. NPR should have been defunded by Congress long ago.
As for the firing of Juan Williams, such was ridiculous and only shines a spotlight on a dishonorable “news” organization for all to better see. All public funding should be terminated and NPR should have to compete in the free market. If such happens, and I pray it does, I predict NPR will go the way of Air America. I can hardly wait.
I have to pose this question to NPR . . . . What comes first, “feelings” or “bigotry”?
I contend that bad "feelings" come first, and if the person with such feelings is not honorable, "bigotry" follows.
Consider the following: Is a married man whom has never cheated on his wife unfaithful to his wife if he sees another woman with such beauty that it makes his heart skip a beat? I think not but according to NPR it does and such a man should gouge his eyes out to prevent such behavior in the future.
I submit that what NPR fails to appreciate is the difference between “feelings” and “bigotry”. Like involuntary mussels, a person has very little control over how they “feel”. What we do have control over is how we react to what we “feel”.
Mr. Williams said:
"(W)hen I get on the plane, I got to tell you, if I see people who are in Muslim garb and I think, you know, they are identifying themselves first and foremost as Muslims, I get worried. I get nervous."
Mr. Williams was not expressing an opinion, he was expressing a “thought”, ie. a “feeling”.
Having “bad” thought does not make one bad. Acting badly base on bad thoughts does. Restated, what one thinks does not make one a bad person, ones actions define a person.
Ironically, Mr. Williams statement coupled with his actions shows him to be a man of honor, not a bigot.
For Mr. Williams thinks: “oh no, there are Muslims on this plane” but then he reminds himself that such thoughts are not rational and all Muslims are not the same. The thought he cannot control, his reaction to his thoughts he can and does control.
Such are the thoughts and actions of a man of honor, not a man of bigotry.
NPR needs to go away.
As for Juan Williams, I never much cared for LIBERALS or their opinions in the past, however, if NPR has fired Mr. Williams he must be a good man and I will give fresh consideration to his views in the future.
Comment: #10
Posted by: SusansMirror
Fri Oct 22, 2010 8:08 AM
Susan, such a well-written article. But considering the topic of your recent article regarding Meg Whitman and Carly Fiorina, I am curious as to your response to the snarky comments of Ms. Schiller regarding Juan's need to discuss his feelings with a therapist and her disappointment that this occurred during Fundraising Week. Bob Beckel, another left-wing contributor on Fox, announced that he will not be contributing to NPR this year in support of Juan. Will you say the same? Will you call for the resignation of Ms. Schiller? Will you support future efforts in the Congress to defund NPR? As you said, Juan will be fine. Your essay doesn't address the broader issues that are much more important.
Comment: #11
Posted by: Lesley Barnard
Fri Oct 22, 2010 9:04 AM
I am probably to the left of Ms Estrich, and I totally agree that NPR screwed up on this. However, I definitely don't think NPR should be defunded. I listen to NPR every day and never cease to be amazed at the issues that are covered that do NOT make it to mainstram news outlets. They seem to take great pains (because of criticism like that leveled above) to really try to be fair and balanced.
Comment: #12
Posted by: cadbury
Fri Oct 22, 2010 9:57 AM
It's very troubling if you cannot tell the difference between Rev. Jackson's statement, and Mr. Williams. Mr. Jackson is admitting responsibility and fault for his fear and flawed thinking ... Mr. Wiliams is blaming Muslims.
Comment: #13
Posted by: Debora Beverly
Fri Oct 22, 2010 11:40 AM
I have often disagreed with Juan Williams. However, I have the highest regards for him. His book "Enough" should be in every public classroom. I totally respect him as I do you, even though I have disdagreed with you also.
The article was great. I am looking forward to seeing hime and more of you on the only legitimate news channel. FOX!!!
Comment: #14
Posted by: ronald kohk
Fri Oct 22, 2010 1:46 PM
The new canard of the American left is that Timothy McVeigh was a "Christian" terrorist no different than the 911 attackers. To my knowledge Timothy McVeigh never said he was inspired by the New Testament or Jesus Christ to go out and kill innocent people. Yes, he was a terrorist and a criminal of the worst order but the fact he was born a Christian had nothing to do with the heinous crime he committed just as being black had nothing to do with the Washington D.C. sniper. The 911 murderers, on the other hand, were totally motivated by Islamic extremism.
I agree with you. Your article was comprehensive and your view on his firing align with my own. He should not have been fired for speaking his thoughts. Censorship is a far greater issue and a 1st amendment right. 1st amendment only covers freedom of the press and speech. Radio and television have greater concerns. Our freedom of speech ends at our territorial boundaries just as any foreigner speaking here would find out. They do not have free speech and can be censored. This should include campaign contributions from foreigners to American political candidates. I found it far more devastating that the Office of the President "leaked" the name of a CIA operative jeopardizing his safety during the President Bush Jr Administration. If we are truly afraid of Muslims, why are catering to the Royal Saudi Family with their town suites in Washington's Congressional District? It is Osama Bin Laden's Family that became richest from our Mideast Wars. Should I be censored for saying that I fear this more than a Muslim Church near ground Zero? This came under president Reagan's "Strategic Energy Reserve" policy during his Star Wars years. Should I be censored for saying I think 911 may have "False Flag" evidence that went unreporrted? Maybe if I asked why thermite, an explosive was found in the wreckage of the fallen buildings. is too preposterous to investigate our own government? It would not be new that covert operations could turn to overt greed in the name of patriotism. I think we gave the muslims far too much credit. Am I out of line to say we guard a country that supplies 40% of the world's illegal drugs with high tech drones while we leave our borders open? Do we fly the drugs out in our own planes like the old "Air America" days in Viet Nam and Cambodia? I believe it is a right of America's citizen soldiers to question the direction this country takes. Censorship by firing is not an option even if it is a misguided bigot like Juan Williams.
Comment: #16
Posted by: Rick Laviolette
Sun Oct 24, 2010 6:03 PM
Rick -
The article was NOT about censorship, it was about God given freedom that you or any other human being having every right to say or ask what you desire whether it's stupid or not. You can even say 'Allah Akbar' in a crowded plane or 'fire' in a crowded theatre; but remember there are laws preventing immenent intended injury to others through speech.
Also, why is Juan Williams a misquided bigot? What did he do to display bigotry rather than voice (freely) a normal human reaction to personal event that caused him temporary discomfort?
Comment: #17
Posted by: Early
Mon Oct 25, 2010 7:44 AM
Dear Susan,
Why are you surprised at the firing of Juan Williams?
Do you really believe that NPR is a truly liberal station?
If they were they would not have trod all over William's right to freedom of expression.
And while NPR is an importnant voice in the clamor of hate and narrow thinking on the airwaves, remember, they are still a large corporation, and they have waffled time and again in the face of real dialogue.
I appreciate NPR for what it is.
For the real truth, and to experience free speech radio with a spine listen to Pacifia Rado's KPFA.
I did not watch William's interview on the O'Reilly factor, I cannot say whethter he was speaking as a bigot, or echoing the sentiments of the Reverend Jackson.
Open your eyes. NPR may be slightly left of center, but when sticky issues arise, they back down. I have seen it time and a gain.
Yours in support of free speech,
Susan Fogel
Comment: #18
Posted by: Susan Fogel
Mon Oct 25, 2010 8:50 AM
My understanding is that this is not the first time Juans comments or behavior has raised concern-not an isolated incident. What I find striking is the rights willingness to tell NPR who to fire and why-after they clearly promote less involvement from government in our lives. Do they believe they should be able to tell NPR to hire and fire personnel? This is clearly NPRs decision-right or wrong...and given his history as noted by NPR, while this is not a slam dunk, there seems to be history here. It is the price we are now paying for folks on the far left and far right to take isolated comments, magnify them, take them out of context and promote them for their own purposes. The animosity and partisanship and anger is beyond anything I have experienced in my 50+ years...hopefully, enough people will get tired of this negative approach.
Comment: #19
Posted by: mike
Mon Oct 25, 2010 8:54 AM
By the way, given the backlash, I contributed to my local NPR station, lest the right succeed in pulling the small (10%) funding NPR gets from the government.....
Comment: #20
Posted by: mike
Mon Oct 25, 2010 8:56 AM
Susan,
I have always followed you even though I rarely agree- you have that "common sense" vibe that most liberals lack.
I have a suggestion for you. I believe you have a great opportunity as a white, educated woman to speak out about this kind of pc extremism on the left. There are plenty of people who could, but you have the same qualities as Juan, that is, you are respected by both sides- RARE!!
Take a chance and stand up to this craziness- we need the honest feelings to come to the surface so we can really hash things out. I am already telling my 10th grade daughter to censor herself at schools as most of her teachers are liberals and control her future.
Not good.
Comment: #22
Posted by: Casserole
Tue Oct 26, 2010 9:21 AM