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Probing Intentions in the Cyber-fog

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Two Ohio girls stand accused of saying vile, menacing things on Twitter —seriously accused. The high schoolers, ages 15 and 16, were arrested and face a possible six months in juvenile detention. They are charged with threatening a 16-year-old rape victim in the celebrated case involving Steubenville High School football stars. Two boys were convicted of the rape this week.

But what about these two girls? Were they being mean, reckless and stupid, or were they making a serious threat requiring police intervention? Ohio Attorney General Mike DeWine said that whether a threat is made on the Internet or in person, it has to be taken seriously. Given the passions surrounding this case, the concern seems warranted.

That said, it's hard to deal with people, especially young people, sharing their antisocial intentions on social media — things they don't necessarily plan to act on. Many regard the Internet as a place for unloading angry fantasies. It's a safe place precisely because anything goes.

Nowadays, nearly every place in America finds itself coping with troubling online conversations. In Rhode Island, for example, the Warwick school superintendent wants to discipline students for tweeting profane language about the state school commissioner. (They objected to her forcing high schoolers to pass a difficult math exam.)

The local affiliate of the American Civil Liberties Union said these students were acting immaturely, but that posting obscene messages off school property was protected free speech. Verbal behavior deemed impermissible on school grounds takes on a different nature in cyberspace, so the ACLU seemed to argue.

The Steubenville rape case unfolded on social media from start to finish. The crime was recorded and publicized on Twitter posts and videos shared by others at the scene, a wild teenage party held late last August.

There, a drunk or drugged 17-year-old girl was dragged around and repeatedly raped by football team members. Like many of the other partygoers, the boys also may have been far from sober.

High school football is a source of happiness in this struggling steel town. Many residents railed against ruining the future of these promising young men, especially when the victim herself was reportedly stumbling drunk.

After the verdict, the 16-year-old arrested for threatening the girl posted a message on Twitter saying, "You ripped my family apart, you made my cousin cry." It had an almost innocent teenage air until she added that when they met, "it's gone be a homicide."

The lawyer for the younger girl said her client had been targeted for going online to support one of the accused players. She sent out her offensive posts after having received hundreds of harassing phone calls, some from abroad.

So how do we isolate criminal behavior in the babbling chaos? People offer brutal scenarios online that they would never put down on paper.

In the recent "Cannibal Cop" case, a New York City jury had to distinguish between a sick imagination and plans to a commit a monstrous act. A city police officer had been scheming — in his head or for real — to kill women and eat them. His lawyers argued that he'd been accused of a thought crime, that he was engaging in a kind of sophisticated online game. After combing through his bizarre Internet searches and some ambiguous actions, the jury decided to hand down a guilty verdict.

The online intimidation in Steubenville certainly could not be ignored as a harmless adolescent rant. But the nature of the online free-for-all makes the girls' real intentions hard to interpret. We're operating in a foggy legal and cultural world, and there's no way out.

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Being mean, reckless, and stupid has consequences.
Comment: #1
Posted by: Paul M. Petkovsek
Thu Mar 21, 2013 1:58 AM
Being mean, stupid, and reckless does have consequences, but they should not include jail time. Adults are mean and cruel to each other every day, why should teenagers be held to a higher standard? If hurling insults was a crime, most of Capital Hill would be behind bars. The ACLU is right. People have a right to say whatever mean or cruel things they want. It might not be smart, but thats not the point. I am curious to hear what exact "threat" these two girls made, but oddly enough Froma thought it not important enough to include.
Comment: #2
Posted by: Chris McCoy
Thu Mar 21, 2013 6:27 AM
Ma'am... I appreciate all the nut heads one runs across on the internet... It is a good place for a doctor of humanity to set up practice...There was a fellow named Osler, who once remarked that one finger in the throat and one in the rectum make a good diagnostician... He also made an interesting remark about syphilis simulating all other disease...
Part of the true value of the internet is distance, that people fearing not the oft deserved punch in the nose will freely express themselves...But it brings to mind St. Paul's conclusion that it isn't what goes into a man that makes him unclean, but what comes out; and this is true for rectum or throat...
What people say, they will do... If they can countinence it coming out of their own mouths into their own ears they will consider doing it...Typing it is no different than saying it... Hiding your designs behind suggestion or euphemisms hides nothing of the malignancy we so often witness in these pages of discourse...
You cannot use this public property of the internet, the telphones, or cell phones to physically threaten anyone... Apart from that, people ought to show some restraint, some forgiveness and civility... We are fellow citizens, and have a right to our thoughts and their free expression... I want to hear what people say even if it is the rumbling of madness, because it is certain that all that saves us from the general, and all too common madness is isolation... All these people need is a mob to become criminals.. All that some of these cowards need is an unguarded moment to act as freely as they think...
I am not a cop; but I would doctor these people... There is a tremendous lot of frustration, pain, and grief out there among people who have lost their America and their vision of a happy future... They have been raised in a climate that fully accepts violence as a solution to problems...They have been very often misled by their enemies as to the nature and identity of their true enemies, and they have so long hated the helpless that they cannot broach the thought of joining them in poverty...
Kids with cell phones are a fraction of the problem...Our national pain, our anger and angst and frustration is the stuff that reigns of terror and civil wars are made of... Fear for this land and this people because we have forgotten how to talk, how to listen, how to feel for each other... We have found the enemy, and it is us; but it does not have to be this way, and we can understand- before our history becomes some vast tragedy again...
What Mr. Osler said: That Jaundice is the disease your friend diagnose; is very true... We have to tell each other when we are seen off color... It is communication.. Truth is communication...
Rattle snakes warn before they strike, and so should human beings so that an intervention can be made possible... We do not want the punishment to ever exceed the crime... We do not want people to keep silent and strike without warning...
Those lines of Freud should often be considered in dealing with the madness we see about us: "No doubt fate would find it easier than I do to relieve you of your illness. But you will be able to convince yourself that much will be gained if we succeed in transforming your hysterical misery into common unhappiness"...
If I may suggest the problem: It is that most people more willingly accept an hysterical misery before common unhappiness... I do not think unhappiness is less of a problem, but one that accepted offers more reasonable alternatives as solutions...Hysteria compounds madness with fantasy, and too many heartlanders are living in a mad fantasy that the world would be better without about 90% of the people in it... As a practical matter, does it change the facts to threaten a witness to them??? But practical solutions do not appear as reasonable to the irrational...
Thanks...Sweeney
Comment: #3
Posted by: James A, Sweeney
Thu Mar 21, 2013 8:01 AM
Re: Chris McCoy It could include jail time. It depends on how mean, reckless, and stupid a person is.
Comment: #4
Posted by: Paul M. Petkovsek
Thu Mar 21, 2013 2:51 PM
Stupid, mean and reckless are so broad of terms that yes, one could go to jail for being one or more of them. Drunk driving is all 3 and by all means jail them. But give me an example of someone saying nasty words, that are non threatening, that you would think jail time is called for.
Comment: #5
Posted by: Chris McCoy
Thu Mar 21, 2013 4:41 PM
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