Minority Student Needs

Sir;... It is hard for me to view you as a human being; and not because you are black, but because you have about as much sympathy for humanity as a calculator... Mr. Frisby does not much impress me from your quotations and discription... The fact is that racism never resulted in less racism, or less reason to doubt human inequality... So long as people were denied equal access to education and resources there was always proof that they were too stupid to learn...
I know the great hope of the educational establishment is that they will be able to make a difference against entrenched prejudice and race hatred... You as a world class uncle tom are paid to resist them... Look at what it has cost you to achieve... You have had to give up your humanity, but what a little prize is that??. I would as soon ask a clipped dog if he misses his nads as ask you if you miss you sole connection to humanity...My dog serves my interest as you serve your masters... His life is mine, and yours is theirs...If you missed your humanity, you would find it, but it is meaningless to you...
What made you hate black humanity so??? What made you identify so with those who do all within their power to keep the negro down???. Are you an example, or is it possible you charcature those vicious extremes of character that used to use to hang black bodies on limbs???... These people who have denied the rights of your people for so long, have had things their way forever, and it has been for only a fraction of time that people have worked at all, and without much true commitment -for human equality...And you resist them...
When you can only make public resources equal for blacks against much resistence, what can you really do about personal prejudice and injustice...I have seen where Blacks or Mexican Americans were told time and again to come back tomorrow when the boss had no intention of hiring them... He could not refuse them employment, but he could run them through their asses for a job that wasn't going to be there no matter how many times they returned tomorrow...
Where the effort is made to make schools equal, the students and their parents are not ready for school... Education happens at home, and people who are poorly educated, discriminated against, and frustrated in their own lives do not make good educators, and they cannot support the process of education in the school by following it up at home... People need a lot more advantage than is allowed to them by law... The law is the bare minimum, and even that is under attack...
Sir;... I do not like black people... I may be able to number all my black friends with one hand...I do not think the black people I know are exceptional, but only very fortunate that they do not bear the burden of the discrimination they have been made to suffer, that they can forgive me personally for what my race has done to them, and to theirs... Even to those black people I do not like, and may not like only because I judge their culture rather than them, I still concede their humanity ...When Will Rogers said: I never met a man I didn't like, he was saying a mouthful... I could possibly like you if you were a man, and not trapped in perpetual childhood; but the same is true of all those trapped in childhood by discrimination or prejudice...
It is so easy to be fearful of strangers when you are a child, and it is essential to emotional and social maturity to concede what you cannot deny in human equality... So what if we have to give blacks more of resources and time to catch up???... They where held down and denied for so long that there is not going to be any quick advance for them...And the culture of resentment and ignorance surrounds them... If culture is what one knows, black culture blows, and it affects every part of their lives, and like all culture, is resistent to change... The stability of culture and family is not there, and there are still many forces acting against it... Why are we niggardly in regard to their improvement???
All that justifies the parsimony we practice is the belief and prejudice that black people cannot be improved by education...There is only one excuse for it, and it is not the want of knowledge, which should be cheap, but it is the want of humanity, that is rare indeed... Denying help and access to education for blacks is a self fulfilling prophesy of black failure...
We want to raise the general level of education, wellbeing, and happiness for black people; but mostly the goal of all liberal people is to avoid the tragedy of those individuals with great potential being denied access to our common property, as knowledge is... The fact that whites may be denied to advance blacks is entirely unaccepable... The knowledge is ours, and it belongs to humanity, and in particular, everything that is known has already be purchaced and paid for by society... To deny education to anyone is a crime, and the only ones in favor of that crime have all the money necessary to pay for it...
This propeller head you trot out as an authority has one thing to recommend him... His mind is not likely to be clouded by actual experience of great numbers of black people... Notice; that some of these schools in the NCAA b-ball playoffs are schools that have few if any black people on their teams though black people dominate the sport... If they do not have black people on campus who could support their school even while attending it, how many blacks do they have relative to the national population??? There are places in this land where blacks and ethnic people and students of any sort are very unwelcome, and I trust Missouri may in large part be such a place... What are those people learning if they do not first learn of American diversity, because our diversity, which every university should represent- is mearly a microcosm of world diversity, and that is the sea we swim or sink in...
Thanks....Sweeney

Sweeney is a troll. Not necessarily “for” anyone but definitely against conservatives and free market policies. He has no credible ideas of his own, he's just against others, wants them to feel inferior and tries to intimidate them into silence. Ignoring him isn't “silence” it is denying him a platform.

Re: Ed Boyle;... White folks have taken enough out of black folks for too long to expect they will be able to catch up over night... As terrible as slavery was, they should never have been freed as they were, or kept in perpetual bondage in the South until driven out by the need for some better life in the North... Those people carried the South into the Union... They opened in up and brought it to economic life with their own deaths...If they have a slave mentality now; who can blame them... If they are resentful; who can blame them... If they never believe they are their children will ever be free of descrimintion and injustice, who can prove them wrong... Mr. williams thinks to make himself look white because he hates blacks... Do you think he is the first black racist??? He identifies with the whites, but it does not matter how white he acts, because if they do not hold him in absolute contempt, they will say when he dies that he was a credit to his race...If acting like Mr. Williams is the key to black success in this country I can see why so few choose that course...
Thanks....Sweeney

Sweeney isn't just against conservatives and the free market. Keep reading. He detests and vomits vitriol against Christians, churches, whites, the South, Southern people, rich people and who knows what all else. He has trouble admitting anyone with a different idea is human and is firmly convinced they can never be called moral. Sweeney is a communist agitator that advocates revolution and says there is never peace without first revolution. He's worse than a troll.

Sweeney isn't just against conservatives and the free market. Keep reading. He detests and vomits vitriol against Christians, churches, whites, the South, Southern people, rich people and who knows what all else. He has trouble admitting anyone with a different idea is human and is firmly convinced they can never be called moral. Sweeney is a communist agitator that advocates revolution and says there is never peace without first revolution. He's worse than a troll.

Sweeney isn't just against conservatives and the free market. Keep reading. He detests and vomits vitriol against Christians, churches, whites, the South, Southern people, rich people and who knows what all else. He has trouble admitting anyone with a different idea is human and is firmly convinced they can never be called moral. Sweeney is a communist agitator that advocates revolution and says there is never peace without first revolution. He's worse than a troll.

Re: P. Long;... I am a Christian; but it does not take much sense to realize they were able to take over the Roman Empire because they were better when they were cat food than when they had all the power...As long as Christian ding dongs think their privilages are God given they will continue to whittle away at our rights, the very rights that really make their privilages possible... You are seeing a backlash...
You have been seeing a backlash on the right for years against media privilages because the right hates the truth; and you are seeing the beginning of a backlash against the privilage of property to drive our politics, our elections and limit our choices... All of these people are working against our rights with no understanding that our rights underpin their privilages...So long as those fools think their privilages exist as things in themselves, they will continue to attack our rights and take their privilages for granted... They are not granted... I do not grant them...They are nonsense that is ruining this country for everyone...
And I am not a communist... I understand communism, and understand it is the only successful economy; but it is also the economy of poverty, and as long as people can find some way to do without it, they will...We have plenty of socialism and will as long as poverty is growing, but I would not dare to tell people what form of economy we shall have...
I am sure enough a revolutionary, and only those societies which can change their forms when they need to will survive...Look at how the Greeks struggled with their society... Their democracy too dependent upon chance could not serve the interest of all the people, and the oligarchs never even tried to do more than suit themselves... Being unable to conceive of changing forms, and being like all people, deeply conservative, they could not change and could not adapt...
Carthage was corrupt to the limit... The rich were forever selling out the poor... Hannibal and his family were trying to fight the more democratic Rome and trying to reform their society with the rich undercutting them and trying all the while to sell them out... The story of changing forms is the entire history of humanity, but since forms usually only evolve over time, or failed forms are brushed away by more primitive and vital forms, we see revolutionary change only seldom and usually only in technology...
To give an example; the grind stone was once a flat stone into which a post could be inserted, and it was worked by rocking it against another flat stone... The idea of a circular motion is foreign to people, and you can still see this in the time it takes for a child to peddle a trike, about the same time it takes for them to toilet train, in fact, the beginning of the ability to handle complex concepts, but not quite...That turning about a center with a lever is the beginning also of a mechanical clock, but water clocks were the effective clock for so long, that when people finally managed mechanical clocks, much of the terminology was carried over from water clocks... When people change their forms of dwelling, or their form of technology, or their form of warfare these changes are accomplished with a change of mind, but they happen so seldom that people do not grasp what is happening, so what they see as uncommon is also seen as unlikely; but changing forms can be seen in history as a common occurance...
Revolutions carried on consciously are a very recent phenomenon in history... But Jefferson, for one, understood philosophy well enough that he could speak clearly about it... He talks of forms in the Declaration of Independence... Those people knew what they were doing, and so should you... Don't shoot in the dark P. Long... Grasp and understand what is happening around you so you can consciously change your society... Just remember what you are doing, and understand the limits of it... Trying to change a form or forms in society does not mean you have the least control over how that change will end... The freedom to change forms that all people share also means people of the future do not need to be bound by the past...
Consider again Christianity... If you read your Bible you can find moral lessons by the bushel, especially from the OT prophets... Do you think any of those who are masters of the formal approach to religion will ever get it, or got it in olden times??? Behind all of that form is the belief in magic upon which religion rests, the thought that a certain formula of behavior or sacrifice will give you power over God, or nature...But the true lesson that every good Christian can take is the moral lesson that the only true power is the power over self, and that only when we see the form of God in our fellow human beings will our service to God be complete...
Thanks...Sweeney

Re: P. Long;... There is no peace without justice, and at this time, there will be no justice without revolution... Even when there is justice no peace can ever expect to be complete...You see in our society how much people hate justice and employ law to prevent justice... We have all gained so much by injustice that we naturally fear it... If we were to give the world justice, it might mean our extermination... I don't want that... I want to make a deal...
You just have to see the force behind injustice... When people so often see their own benefit in injustice they will never support justice, and then, when such people find they are the victims of a worse injustice they feel they have no alternative but to suffer it... I don't think anyone has to be perfect to throw the first stone... They have to realize that the first stone is the one Cain killed Able with, and then try to do their best, be willing to stand up for themselves, what is just, and also forgive and forget...
Thanks...Sweeney

Re: P. Long;... Sir, I could not possibly be against conservatives without being against humanity since everyone is conservative... But people identify themselves as conservative when they refuse to identify themselves as human; and this is because so people who call themselves conservative only mask their reactionism... We will get to the future in due time; but no one person can turn back the hands of time... And people say the constitution the constitution like it is a mantra... Read your history... The constitution from its earlies moments has been a rag people have written their own personalities into, starting in many respects with John Marshall who hated democracy and the threat democracy posed to property rights...Would you turn this country back to that time if you thought it possible???... Consider that it worked because we had so much more representation per person, had so few actual people, and a vast continent with vast reources to use... Those days are gone, and now we have to make the present work for us...
Sir; this is a nation formed in revolution, and revolution is the sole conservative value... As long as we remember that revolution is our right, and the Declaration of Independence is our legal brief for change; we will know our power and place...
Thanks...Sweeney

Re: P.Long, I've been reading Walter Williams and James Sweeney for years on this site. Now I rarely comment but always read the comments. Your comments intrigue me and piss me off. You call out Sir Sweeney without adding anything to the conversation. I know you don't understand Sweeney or his writings and you're afraid of him(why?) because you call Sweeney a 'troll', yet he is always on message; inflammatory only to those who disagree with his most logical, emotional, and factual responses, and his posts are factual, logical, based on historical record, and interesting. I check his facts routinely. I follow his logic very easily, but then I, too, have a high IQ. I'll give you that his posts would be much better if edited, but take out all the superfluous and redundant and you've got a well thought out, reasoned response from a loving, caring human being. Agree or disagree, that's your choice. But a troll? No. In fact, you fit the definition of a troll. You add nothing to the conversation and your comments are always attacking other posters. Since you have nothing of value or interest to add to any of the conversations ( and Sweeney does),why don't you be a good little troll and fuck off?