Intolerant Left and Cyprus

Two quotes from Our First President:
Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master.

Firearms are second only to the Constitution in importance; they are the peoples' liberty's teeth

Re: David Henricks;... Give it a rest, David... Aristotle said that governments were created for good, and he said that because of the simple observation that good was the object of all human activity...
So what if government becomes in time a device for robbing the people's bank??? People rob banks with a view to good as well, though a limited view...
When it becomes harder to endure a government than to change it, it will be changed... It is the terrible conservatism of humanity that is just about our sole shared characteristic that is most responsible for people having to endure obnoxious situtations long after they have begun to feel injured by them... At that point, a gun is more of a hazzard to liberty than a threat to tyranny... We do not need guns to change our society, but only the will to resist tyranny, and right now, every man with a gun is a potential tyrant...I don't care how much my guns are for my self defense or for hunting... If I cannot always be there to guard them they have the potential of being turned against me, or against society... The responsibility end of gun ownership is long neglected, but it only grows the more people own assault weapons and large stores of Ammo... Who and what are these people afraid of; because realistically many of them should get their paranoia in for a check up, and the rest simply have no good cause to fear government or their neighbors...
Some people sleep with a teddy bear... I used to sleep with a 357 S&W; a real good deer killer... Then I grew up and realistically faced my fear... I was more afraid of living than dying, but what stopped me was the fear that I would kill some one unintended...To change ones behavior takes no more effort than to change ones form of government... All people need to do is change their minds, and while this is frightening, and requires people to face their futures unafraid; it must be done...
To hide with ones fear, loaded for bear is simply too ridiculous to accept... Realistically, when your government can hardly scratch its butt with either hand, how much of a threat is it??? The problem is that such a government is not any better than it is bad... It is mostly useless with a little mindless cruelty thrown in to break the boredom...Quit believing in the old form of government, and it is done for... Do you have the courage to change???
As far as the matter of tolerance goes; many on the issue have been quite tolerant enough... How many slaughtered children does the country have to endure to pass your test of tolerance???... If you want a man killing weapon; then well you may have it, and a little observation as well: To conceive of killing a human being before a serious cause has arrived is madness... Forget the back ground check... How many fools out their in the heartland could pass any sort of psychological examination... Gun nuts are just nuts with guns...
Thanks...Sweeney

Sir;.... Health insurance wouldn't be much for insurance if you only bought it when you needed it... What do you think your chances of getting home insurance would be if your house was on fire???...
The fact that very few people will actually ever need insurance is figured into the cost just as is the fact that most people who may think they never will need it will need it in fact... Left to the insurance companies; they would select that market of individuals who are seldom sick, and exclude all others... Sooner or later if only those with insurance can afford to pay, the cost of insurance will shoot through the roof for them... It has been the case for too long, and for too many, that organized labor and the United States Government have together been broken by the cost of medical care because they were the only ones who would pay... Now that government is telling people to be responsible for their own medical care, at least by affording insurance, every one wants to cry socialism... Well as long as they are not crying: Help we are dying because the nearest hospital is too far to drive to, and we don't have no insurance... It is a closed system, and it costs what it costs, and the only big mistake about it was to allow for-profit providers... We know it is impossible to protect everyone from their own stupidity, but you cannot fault the government for trying... Be aware of the cost of medical care, even if you are fit and strong... Don't want to be aware??? Pay like all responsible people have been paying, and you will grow some health consciousness...It is not free...
Thanks...Sweeney

Re: James A, Sweeney people in the heartland have a much better chance of passing any psychological test than most people on the east of west coast (if you leave Chicago out of the mix). This is absolutely true for bureaucrats and politicians in Washington.
Your use of situational ethics to take people's guns is scary. You can not wait til there is a babdband situation and then punish good people because bad people did something.
I am not calling our current president a Hitler. But if you want to see what happens when law abiding citizens continually go with the governmental dictates look at pre WWII Germany. By the time the German people realized a problem, there really wasn't anyone around to help.
It is time for the left to do an integrity check. The left protested, screamed, and all sorts of stuff when it came out that the CIA was waterboarding terrorists to get intelligence to protect us. Now under Obama, he acknowledges just killing them with drones, including killing close by innocents and you are ok with this.

Re: Jimmy Weber;... Sir, back when the Vietnam War was going, my German grandmother objected to our objections to it... Her respect for the law was complete... And she would say: the law, the law, the law, as if their was no legitmate deviation from it... As much as you may want to simplify the situation in Germany, it is impossible to do so... Just as in France, their word for law is right, and you see hints of it in the name of their state, the reicht, or in our rectify... They had law in the form of Roman law longer than any other European people, and before that a long history of tribal law...There is so much the West and America could have done and did not do to help establish their democracy on a firm footing though there was no great support for it, even at the university level, where many were elitist, and anti democratic... We did not force the Generals to admit defeat, and responsibility for war... We instead forced the new democracy to do just that, though there was plenty of responsibility to go around...In the end, the old guard of German feudalism handed the house to hitler over the issue of whether the old junker estates would be forced to pay back taxes though it might break them up... They won that battle over democracy, but where are they today??? The schools never did give up on the Kaisar, and they never took his picture or his flag down... All the time they were looking for revenge against their humiliation they were saluting the man who made that humilation possible... So the people's willingness to submit to the state was only one part of the puzzle... Judging from my family, no one ever learned democracy in their families... The father was as close to a tyrant as ever a person could be...

Before you draw too many conclusions about me, let me say I am a past member of the NRA... And I own handguns and other hunting weapons, secured... I am also willing to concede the limits of all my rights, and say not one of them is absolute... I like the second Amendment, and I believe the only truly legitimate armed force is the militia... The obligation to bear arms was once a qualification of citizenship, and it is only where the government fears the people that this obligation becomes an endangered right... But two things are also true: The paranoia of the right is misguided, and all they need is a sizable minority to sway the course of this country...It may take a great deal to amend the constitution, and that bar was set impossibly high since dicord and division follow upon the failure of a society, so no great majority can be found... And, the founding fathers most certainly recognized that only a third of the populations supported their revolution, while a third resisted, and another third looked on...To imagine two third required to move society forward is possible in the middle of conficting interests and sown confusion is to imagine the impossible...
None the less, what the right needs is not more guns, but a better moral argument, and now, since they represent the interests of the rich better than the rich do, they find themselves in conflict with another sizable minority who are entitled, and the government- which in its nature wants to reduce conflict or force peace...


The object of society and government is supposed to be justice and rights, and having these can be assured of peace...Naturally the right which feels oppressed to support so many free loaders and unemployed has a reason to object... On the other hand, those people removed for expediancy from their ability to support themselves, and thrown on the public purse are still entitled to support because we own the country, and Justice John Marshall said as much early on...He was no lover of democracy and even he said that we own this country because we took it... So what if now it is in private hands??? What is private ownership without public defense... And today, the commonwealth privatized does not pay for its legal or miltary defense... Nor does it pay for all those people thown to the side lines by the demand of profit...The people are entitled because they hold the title to all the country...And the middle classes are right to bich if they are stuck with the bill, and driven into poverty themselves to support poverty... But they have to figure out who their enemies are, and quit pointing the guns at their fellow citizens... Look at your civil war... It was begun with white people defending their rights to this land against the slave owners, and those people who fought for the South were fighting for the slave owners who marginalized them, empoverished them, and dishonored their free labor...It often has happened in history that people fight against their own self interest... Do you think any of the millions fighting in the trenches of the first world war was fighting for their own interests...They were each side defending the last bastions of nobility, and privilage that none of the grunts could ever enjoy but at a distance... That is what the right is defending today...
I don't support the war in any fashion, and there again, the hard corp Islamist has a lot more in common with the hard corp Christian than you can imagine... Literally, it should be us and them against the world, and never us against them; but as a practical matter we are pagans, putting every manor of material fetish between ourselves and our God...
That droning, as dangerous as it is for them, is the threat of absolute tyranny here... And the people are correct to be afraid... But see what it means internationally... We can no longer afford the war we have decided to make against intelligent, determined, but otherwise backward people... If the only war you can afford to level against them is a war of terror, the days of our country are numbered... You have to have income to support war... You cannot tax the middle class living hand to mouth... You cannot tax the rich because they evade it politcally... And you cannot tax all the American Capital exported for the exploitation of cheap labor around the globe, so American power and influence will recede, and all we will have are these futile displays of terror...

Sir the point of this exercise is simple... As difficult as it is to get people off the dime, what is needed to change society is little more than the consensus that change needs to happen, and we are there, really... It is all a matter of direction, and one little slip and it can go either way...But history, all of history is the story of changing forms, and we see Jefferson talking of forms in the declaration, and this is a sort of ancient notion going back to the Greeks, but also so current and common in use that people really know what form means... To simplify, however; it is like an idea, but out of moral ideas we make social forms, like economies and governments and religions... Those are just examples, like having love as a moral form, and making marriage...
Though we tend to think of these social forms as unchanging because resistence to change- as in our constitution, is built into them, they can be changed, and all human progress depends upon it...
So long as the right blames the left for the failure of this society without looking hard at their history and the facts they will be incapable of anything but a futile anger over the situation... They must find cause for unity with the left, see the humanity and nationality in them, and change society with them... Societies die if they do not progress...The do not progress simply by tossing the starving to the sharks...
Thanks...Sweeney