Thursday, December 04, 2008 | 8:03 p.m.

Wiretapping and Toe Tapping

by Debra J. Saunders

Hey, it's politics. In the primary, when Barack Obama wanted to connect with his party's disaffected left, he said that he would support a filibuster to stop a reauthorization of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act if it granted retroactive immunity to telecommunications companies that had cooperated with the federal government after the 9/11 attacks.

Now Obama has those voters in the bag. So he is reaching out to the majority of Americans who want aggressive international survei ...

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Posted by: Masako
Comment: #1
Mon Jul 14, 2008 6:41 PM

Re: James A, Sweeney Yes, he's tacking to the right, as Maureen Dowd put it yesterday. I understand your concern. There is a disturbance in the force, Luke. But I think it's a little too early to write Mr. Obama off. You can't pull a hard reverse on a big ship in rough seas. You have to work with forces bigger than yourself and ease the wheel around. He has yet to prove whether that promise of bringing us to a spirit of teamwork in this country is real, but he hasn't had the opportunity, and he never will if he can't get himself elected. Your alternative is McCain or Nader, or perhaps the famous Nobody.

Posted by: James A, Sweeney
Comment: #2
Mon Jul 14, 2008 9:01 PM

Re: Masako; That man must be hiring some high priced help if he feels confident enough to start the sort of crap he is without a point. It is too bad his wife never taught him to shut up. He had it won, and to try to make points with people who will never vote for him he is antagonizing the blacks who put him over the top. All he has to do is say: I'm not a republican; but Every time his mouth opens his negatives rise. Who the hell is he to patronize black folks. Do you think they want to suffer so many failed relationships? Does he understand the sort of economic pressures they are under, or what is the standard behavior of all in their community? Or why it is so? To act like it is a simple matter of choice is as patronizing as saying pull yourself up by your boot straps. If he does not understand how badly he is ruining his chances with no chance of gain from the right or center then he is a damned fool. I can't stand Hilary; but she is starting to look like a real candidate again. If I were any black super delagate to that convention I would pull my support from the man and tell him to go to hell. He reminds me of a poem I once read of a man who spent all his life trying to prove he was not black and when he died they called him a credit to his race. That is what some whites are going to say about Mr. Obama; but they will never say he was president. I think when democrats go to bed with democrats that they must breed idiots. Or something. What do you think

Posted by: James A, Sweeney
Comment: #3
Mon Jul 14, 2008 9:10 PM

Re: Masako; Dysfunctional Voyeurs? Is that another French word for damned tyrannical criminals? Are we going to allow our government to saddle us with a gestapo while we sit back and watch? When did our rights begin to count for absolutely nothing? I don't see it. If we are giving up one single right in order to kill or capture them we have already lost the war, and they have succeeded in injuring us far worse than the flights on 911. Best. Sweeney

Posted by: James A, Sweeney
Comment: #4
Sat Jul 12, 2008 10:04 PM

Ma'am; Just tween you an me, Mr. Obama is playing for a lot of voters he will never, ever get. He will lose a boat load of democratic voters by trying to increase the power of the presidency into a virtual tyrant thinking it will be his power to enjoy. He deludes himself. You should point out how facile he is, and how pragmatic. The problem is that we are so polarized as a country that people can only get elected with their core strength; and yet to govern, and stand a chance of being re-elected he will have to govern to the middle. But, that is starting out badly, you know, giving up our rights to empower government. For that he needs to be canned before he is hired. That is the sort of thing I hate from the democrats, saying: We are the voice of the people. Sure. Strangle the cry for freedom and effective government in the throats of your loyal followers, and then say you are their voice. You know, and if you are honest, you will admit that the democrats are not one lick better than the republicans, and absolutly as perverted. The sooner we get rid of these corroded old parties the sooner we will have responsive democracy in our government. What do you think..., Sweeney

Posted by: James A, Sweeney
Comment: #5
Sun Jul 13, 2008 10:08 PM

Re: Masako Hey Mr. M. The attack on this country was a piddling little affair that would have hurt us very little if we had just shrugged it off and changed our ways slightly. I say this because we had every reason to believe the attack was afoot, and had enough controls in place, if taken seriously, to have stopped the attack. The problem is not the soldiers of Islam; but with our own entrenched bureaucracies, police, and otherwise. Why should this piddling meaningless defeat of 911 have led to our great defeat in Iraq and Afghanistan? Why should it justify the defeat of the whole American people by our own blind and power hungry government. We have invited tyranny into this land out of fear, just as we invited the enemies of this country in out of greed for our own exported capital. The whole thing is nonsense; and Mr. Obams is proving bit by bit that he is as stupid and greedy for power as any other politician. He has a long way to go to get my vote now when he had it locked up a few months back. What a jerk.

Posted by: Masako
Comment: #6
Sun Jul 13, 2008 8:20 PM

Ms. Saunders, nice dodge ball you are playing. I notice you have managed to get through a whole column of saleable innuendo without displaying what you really think, and I use the term "think" loosely. How about if we hold the house of journalism accountable? Do you really want these dysfunctional voyeurs snooping into your private affairs?

Posted by: Masako
Comment: #7
Sun Jul 20, 2008 10:37 AM

Re: James A, Sweeney I think you're too hard on him. I understand your feelings but he's the best we've got right now, and that's a hell of a lot better than the alternative. He's not stupid and he's not greedy, but he is getting disturbingly cocky. The best message we can give him is to remember his humility.

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