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Ma'am;... We dont have to believe in global warming, and we don't have to do anything about it...It is like the ice in your drink on a hot day... It will stay cold until the ice melts, as it is doing, and then it will get pissy warm and you won't want any part of it... Think of it this way... Until it gets too bad to bear, you will be fine.... If you own the world's most powerful military you can own any place where the climate remains decent... Famine and draught will kill off most of the world's population, so all you have to worry about is war; but I know you are not inclined to worry while worry is avoidable...So...I have to ask if you are married... You must have your own income... I'm married, but my wife is pretty smart, and actually the brains of the outfit, if you catch my drift...But if I could find two stupid women instead of one smart one I could double my wives and get twice as much for the begging I do now... And I am not trying to call you stupid just because you buy a lot of discredited energy industry propaganda... I just want to know if you like old fat guys even if they suspect your intelligence... Because, you know, what ever happens happens anyway, and we don't have to worry about climate change when we can have any spot on the planet; so the only reason we have to worry about it, is if we give a damn about humanity... And who are they???Thanks...Sweeney
Comment: #1
Posted by: James A, Sweeney
Sat Nov 29, 2008 9:37 PM
Widespread and repeated dissemination of false or overly biased information with the intent of convincing the masses to adopt a desired belief used to be called propaganda.

Why not call the global warming hysteria what it is; propaganda?

How can people today be so blind to methods used so destructively in the past?
Comment: #2
Posted by: Avanti
Sun Nov 30, 2008 7:51 AM
Re: Avanti;.... There is propaganda, but its value now a days is doubt... There is no such thing as the masses.... Are your parties made up of masses...Are your religious denominations masses???. It may be possible for the masses, as you call them, to cooperate for a certain end, but since they are in fact, all individuals, to GET them to do anything is like herding cats... They have no essential unity, and so cannot properly be concieved of, except as what they are: some gathering of people... Look at what it takes to get people out to vote, that apart from a great argument, some understanding of individual self interest must be brought to consciousness.... And it is on the point of individual self interst that the Global Warming debate is being made... The small fraction of scientist who go against the notion of global warming are doing so because that is where their money is... And the energy industry is opposed to the science, because that is where the money is for them... Nothing but the great mass of science, and the long term, hard sell, issue of environmental and human responsibility support the reduction of carbon emissions... The question I have is: what good propaganda might be in getting people to change long term patterns of behavior... Isn't it nearly impossible to change minds and behavior, and does that not always involve a rational and moral argument bent ultimately in changing every person's self perception??? Where would propaganda serve that end??? I think propaganda follows power, just as it did in the Catholic Church, in propagating the faith... People are conservative...They do not want to change, especially when it will cost more, and involve more effort, and thought, for a time beyond our own lives -which we are not inclined to want to consider... The money says status quo, and that is where the propaganda is... But again... They are not making the argument... The fossil fuel bunch should say: This is our world, and if global warming kills off 90% of the world's population, we have the ability to keep our own alive, and hold every part of the world that is fit to farm.... Global warming means climate change... Climates change all the time, and no one can get too attached to any real estate, but get attached to their lives, and be willing to kill others, and drive them into the desert to live with all the endangered species, -if they can live at all... Global warming is going to mean war and death... But, in the mean time; it means high profits and high life... People who worry about the future lose the moment... We only have one life; so let if be a Party... Let it be The Republican Party...They know the truth, and people deserve only the truth they can afford... Don't you agree???Thanks...Sweeney
Comment: #3
Posted by: James A, Sweeney
Sun Nov 30, 2008 8:40 AM
Well, Saunders, we can have scientists study whether the sky is blue or not too. I'd just as soon trust my own eyes. I don't know if October was the warmest month on record or not, but I sure am wondering what happened to autumn as we approach winter.
Comment: #4
Posted by: Masako
Sun Nov 30, 2008 8:51 AM
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