What I Couldn't Teach Eliot Spitzer at Harvard Law School
by Susan Estrich
I met Eliot Spitzer during his first semester in law school, my first year teaching criminal law at Harvard. He was smart and ambitious, which certainly didn't set him apart from the rest of his classmates at Harvard. What did, and what brought him to my door, was that he was interested in a career in politics.
I myself was fresh from four years in Washington, the last two working in the Kennedy and Carter campaigns, and while I was barely four years older than my students, I had already lea ...
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Posted by: John Mark Coney
Comment: #1
Fri Mar 14, 2008 10:25 AM
The female doctor who has a regular column in USNews writes this week about the apparent epidemic in
oral sex among the young. I was reminded of an up-and-coming Florida Republican who was caught paying
a prostitute $20 dollars to sodomize him. I should quickly acknowledge that I anticipate some saying that
oral sex may not be sodomy, only anal sex. (I recall Senator Bill Nelson of Florida decrying the "sodomizing"
of some of the prisoners at Abu Grahb.) Of course we all remember that Bill Clinton's preference was oral.
I mentioned my view that oral sex with a woman (even your wife) is just as bad as oral sex with another man
to some friends. I was surprised with their response: we had our wives sodomize us regularly as a means of
of birth control. The one and only thing I can commend Hillary for is that she would apparently not stoop
to sodomizing Bill. Of course, my friends say that I have simply led a sheltered life. Thank God! I would
not think of asking a woman to demeanor herself and sodomize me. In fact, I can only imagine that the man
who has someone "give him a blow job" is only seeking the thrill of demeaning that person. I wonder what
kind of sex Eliot asks of his whores. If it is strictly vaginal, then he is more of a man than Bill Clinton, yes
more moral.
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Posted by: Carole
Comment: #2
Fri Mar 14, 2008 8:30 AM
What really gets me is his public mean culpas about responsibility. What he's sorry about is that he got stupid, and got caught. There would be no remorse for his actions if he didn't have to pay the price. What a liar.
RE: Prostitution. Women should be able to sell sexual services in a safe environment, but that will never happen in this Puritan nation, and more than we'll legalize recreational drug use so that law enforcement can concentrate on real crime.
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Posted by: Wade
Comment: #3
Sat Mar 15, 2008 7:29 AM
" He didn't think s/he would be caught."
This is so true throughout the structures of power in this world that one wonders if the law is actually present and capable of being enforced at all.
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Posted by: Wade
Comment: #4
Sat Mar 15, 2008 7:30 AM
" He didn't think s/he would be caught."
This is so true throughout the structures of power in this world that one wonders if the law is actually present and capable of being enforced at all.
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Posted by: Wade
Comment: #5
Sat Mar 15, 2008 7:30 AM
" He didn't think s/he would be caught."
This is so true throughout the structures of power in this world that one wonders if the law is actually present and capable of being enforced at all.
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Posted by: Matthew
Comment: #6
Thu Mar 13, 2008 12:44 PM
The reason Hillary's support dried up so quickly is she treated very powerful Democrat politicians like servants. In my opinion I think this is how most Democrats treat people, like they are better than everybody else.
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Posted by: Todd
Comment: #7
Thu Mar 13, 2008 5:01 PM
I once heard Charlie Sheen say something like "I don't pay the women to have sex with me - I pay them so they'll leave."
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Posted by: Kathaleen McCausland
Comment: #8
Thu Mar 13, 2008 7:23 PM
Susan I agree with you on this one. I listen to some talk show host say that Spitzer wanted to get caught. I agree with you that he did not think he would get caught nor be punished. Kevin I can agree with your coments about the prostitutes keeping quiet but not that dating rituals are a form of prostitution. The innocent victims are the children and I have to say I feel sorry for his wife but am shocked that she did not want him to step down. Did she know and not care about the cheating? Another example of power and greed that goes with politics.
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Posted by: Mike in KCMO
Comment: #9
Thu Mar 13, 2008 8:21 AM
Spitzer got caught because he'd become so arrogant he thought he could get away with it. I certainly hope the little b____ gets the same treatment he gave so many of his targets. "Do you know who I am ?" "I'll ruin you."
Good riddance !
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Posted by: Corinne Danzl
Comment: #10
Thu Mar 13, 2008 9:19 AM
Re: Kevin
I agree that rich men use high priced call girls for the silence that their fees insure. A regular prostitute, or a woman involved in an affair, would probably come forward, at some point, just as Monica Lewinski did. I disagree, however, with the notion that courting a woman is similar in nature to paying for a prostitute. In almost all cultures the male tends to pursue/court the female and there is usually some sort of expenditure in doing so. That's not to say that in our culture, with most women in the work force, that we can't pay for dates as well. I've always been more than happy to pay my way, however, I expect the man I'm with to be just as giving as I am. As for picking out the "right" engagement ring that may be a matter of taste in jewelry design rather than the size of the diamond. Fortunately, for me, my husband knew my taste and he picked out a lovely ring. If a woman is only interested in picking out a ring because she wants a huge stone then I'd probably think twice about marrying her if I were a man.
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Posted by: Kevin
Comment: #11
Wed Mar 12, 2008 11:56 PM
Susan, you miss one of the two reasons that men, especially the rich and powerful, use prostitutes: silence. You notice that Kristen didn't break this story nor is she to blame that Gov. Spitzer got caught. It was his own shady account practices that got him into trouble. Rich and powerful men in positions of authority can get sex free of course. And they can treat women as people too. But if they for whatever reason drop them, what happens? Leaks to the press, of course. Two words: Bill Clinton. I think one of the reasons that these prostitutes charge more than usual is their discretion. Part of their price is keeping quiet.
I must say though that to a point, most women are prostitutes. A lot of our mating rituals involve the movement of money whether for that first drink, the dinners, the dates, up to that engagement ring which I have heard a lot of women talk about as being very important to them. It may not be the deal breaker, but I have heard that now many women prefer to choose the ring themselves, so they get "the right one."
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Posted by: JeamJJ
Comment: #12
Wed Mar 12, 2008 4:42 PM
Men who can't tame their 'lust' are bound to lose.
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Posted by: sandra clarke
Comment: #13
Wed Mar 12, 2008 6:42 PM
Every day women use their bodies to sell everything from champagne to exercise videos. Why should a woman who willingly offers her body for a man to touch be any different from a woman in a print ad or a tv commercial who is using her sexuality to push a product and enriching some giant corporation. Sorry, Susan, I disagree with you on this one. But yes, it is all too sad for his family.
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