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Hi, bravo, Froma! I loved your line about the worst sign for Obama may be that the defecting women are starting to have a good time!

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McCain voted for both Clinton appointees, and recently defended his vote for Ginsburg. Obama refused to filibuster against Bush appointees, and had to be pressured to even vote against them.

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Hi, bravo, Froma! I loved your line about the worst sign for Obama may be that the defecting women are starting to have a good time!

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I'm wondering, Ms. Harrop, why you chose only to quote a Hillary Clinton supporter from Illinois about Obama's ``present'' vote. This is from the New York Times about that very vote: Pam Sutherland, president of Illinois Planned Parenthood Council, said Mr. Obama was one of the senators with a strong stand for abortion rights whom the organization approached about using the strategy. Ms. Sutherland said the Republicans were trying to force Democrats from conservative districts to register politically controversial no votes. Ms. Sutherland said Mr. Obama had initially resisted the strategy because he wanted to vote against the anti-abortion measures. He said, ``I'm opposed to this,'' she recalled. But the organization argued that a present vote would be difficult for Republicans to use in campaign literature against Democrats from moderate and conservative districts who favored abortion rights. Lisa Madigan, the Illinois attorney general who was in the Illinois Senate with Mr. Obama from 1998 through 2002, said she and Mr. Obama voted present on the anti-abortion bills. ``It's just plain wrong to imply that voting present reflected a lack of leadership,'' Ms. Madigan said. ``In fact, it was the exact opposite.'' I'm also wondering how in the same column you give a complete pass to McCain for so-called political pandering -- even though he now says he wants Roe overturned -- yet tried to use the political pandering argument against Obama?

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What are you smoking??????? John McCain said that he wants to put more John Robertses on the SCOTUS. I think that is pretty simple. Obama will not. Enough said. PS-I'm white, female and 58. Obama in '08. McCain is a misogynist. He called is wife a c#$% in public.

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Froma: Regarding Obama's WAFFLE VOTE -- you always find a way to bring an issue to light. As you note in the column: "Obama is no doubt pro-choice, but on the issue, he's hardly been a profile in courage. As an Illinois state senator, he famously voted 'present' on anti-choice legislation. Voting 'present' is a tactic used to express disapproval without actually taking a stand." --- Thank you for the reminder.

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With all due respect, Ms. Harrop, your partisan rantings espouse a tremendous amount of sour grapes because your candidate didn't win. You seemingly can't resist taking shots at Obama, which hardly conceal your antipathy at the person who ran the best campaign. I'm not sure what circles you run in, ma'am, but I don't see this huge pent-up feminine anger at Barack Obama. Hillary Clinton gave us ample reason to dislike her, and sexism played a far less significant role than you would like us to believe. Indeed, one doesn't need sexism to find fault with Mrs. Clinton. In the interim, you may continue to split hairs, but the wisest solution might be to get behind Obama, who if there is any fairness in the world, will be elected President.