Posted by: Dlily
Comment: #1
Thu Apr 24, 2008 11:04 PM
It's Coming Out/Black Theology I'm sending the word out.‏
Sent: Fri 4/25/08 12:47 AM
To: ombudskoz@ruralvotes.com
When all this comes out and the American people will find out, the Democratic National Party should be very afraid of what their public is going to think. Pelosia should be fired. I am sending all this information to any and every email address I can find to let people make up their own mind since noone wants to speak out about it. As well as people on the street.
1} Obama comes with very little experiance.
2} He does not bring anything to the table other candidate haven't already said.
3} Hello------he attends a church that teaches Black Theology, for twenty years.
4} He claims he knew nothing about these teachings of The Rev. Wright.
5} If 4 is true, I question his ability to "catch" things and pay attention.
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Hey,
These are only a few of pages I've read on the {subject}. Please read at your leisure. It is interesting. It opens your eyes into this type of view.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nation_of_Islam Black Muslim
http://www.wfu.edu/~matthetl/perspectives/twentyseven.html Black Theology
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/politics/20080403-0732-obamaschurch.html Obams Church
http://www.tucc.org/home.htm Trinity Church Home Page
The Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr., a Divinity School alumnus (A.M., '75) and senior pastor at Trinity, said it is only natural that Hopkins, an academic and a member of the church, should be teaching a course at Trinity. He sees the scholar's work on black religion as an important bridge for the next generation of theologians. “His work covers what has transpired over the past 30 years in the area of black theology. The developments he covers are a ‘must' for Generation X-ers.”
You can read the story here:
http://chronicle.uchicago.edu/000316/hopkins.shtml
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/id.html#Intro Indonesia
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/ke.html#Intro Kenya
Indonesia is obams 'other' home town country and of course his father is kenyian. Again, interesting as it shows a 'lifelong' fundalmental belief and developement of the conditioning of obam. I am not making this stuff up. I could go on and on. Believe me.
It dosen't really mean anything except he's not being truthful.
Obama was aksed if he was a christian
His mother was an atheist: http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2007/12/22/531492.aspx
This was reported by msnbc:
"My father was from Kenya,” he said, “and a lot of people in his village were Muslim. He didn't practice Islam. Truth is he wasn't very religious. He met my mother. My mother was a Christian from Kansas, and they married and then divorced. I was raised by my mother. So, I've always been a Christian. The only connection I've had to Islam is that my grandfather on my father's side came from that country. But I've never practiced Islam."
More: "For a while, I lived in Indonesia because my mother was teaching there. And that's a Muslim country. And I went to school. But I didn't practice. But what I do think it does is it gives me insight into how these folks think, and part of how I think we can create a better relationship with the Middle East and that would help make us safer is if we can understand how they think about issues."
"But I'm a member of the Trinity United Church of Christ and have been there 15 years," Obama added.
But the woman who asked the question still wasn't satisfied. She asked Obama to "define what a Christian is."
"Somebody who believes in Jesus Christ as our lord and savior," the senator responded.
"I'm so glad to hear that," she said.
Any other discussion of religion was quickly put to a close by campaign staffers, who ushered in a ruddy-cheeked little girl to talk with Obama.
This was an interview from his sister: http://www.africaresource.com/content/view/489/68/
Your mom has been described as an atheist.
I wouldn't have called her an atheist. She was an agnostic. She basically gave us all the good books — the Bible, the Hindu Upanishads and the Buddhist scripture, the Tao Te Ching — and wanted us to recognize that everyone has something beautiful to contribute.
You didn't mention the Koran in that list, although Indonesia is the most populous Muslim country in the world.
I should have mentioned the Koran. Mom didn't really emphasize the Koran, but we read little parts of it. We did listen to morning prayers in Indonesia.
Are you worried about mentioning Islam because it has already been evoked by negative campaigners trying to tarnish your brother?
I'm not worried. I don't want to deny Islam. I think it's obviously very important that we have an understanding of Islam, a better understanding. At the same time, it has been erroneously attached to my brother. The man has been a Christian for 20 years.
This is what his mother's story is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Dunham
Dunham's best friend in high school has said that she "touted herself as an atheist, and it was something she'd read about and could argue."[5] In his 1995 memoir Dreams from My Father Barack Obama wrote, "My mother's confidence in needlepoint virtues depended on a faith I didn't possess... In a land [Indonesia] where fatalism remained a necessary tool for enduring hard-ship... she was a lonely witness for secular humanism, a soldier for New Deal, Peace Corps, position-paper liberalism."[15] In his 2006 book The Audacity of Hope Obama wrote, "I was not raised in a religious household... My mother's own experiences... only reinforced this inherited skepticism. Her memories of the Christians who populated her youth were not fond ones... And yet for all her professed secularism, my mother was in many ways the most spiritually awakened person that I've ever known."[16] However, in 2007 Obama described his mother as "a Christian from Kansas." "I was raised by my mother", he continued. "So, I've always been a Christian."[17][18] Also in 2007, he said in a speech, "My mother, whose parents were nonpracticing Baptists and Methodists, was one of the most spiritual souls I ever knew. But she had a healthy skepticism of religion as an institution."[1] Maya Soetoro-Ng, when asked if her mother was an atheist, said, "I wouldn't have called her an atheist. She was an agnostic. She basically gave us all the good books—the Bible, the Hindu Upanishads and the Buddhist scripture, the Tao Te Ching—and wanted us to recognize that everyone has something beautiful to contribute."[19]
I am only pointing out deceptions.......why lie about your mother being an athiest when anyone can read this? So, what is his truth about anything?
Democratic Candidates
Hillary Rodham Clinton
Current Job/Position: Senator from New York
Hometown: Park Ridge, Ill.
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Barack Obama
Current Job/Position: Senator from Illinois
Hometown: Jakarta, Indonesia; Honolulu, Hawaii
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What is this? It was on Washingtonpost.com.
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John McCain
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The only way for the democratic party to win this is too bring all this out and say that due to the fact Obama has been a loyal member to a Black Theology that teaches white hate or at the very least anit white anit American, we can only recall his nomination. That is the thing no one can argue. Racism does not belong in the WHite House and does not deserve support from the democratic party. Otherwise the blacks are going to fight because we didn't let obama in the white house for NO Good Reason or the white are going to fight because they will determine obama is a racist.
It's already not going to be pretty........The only thing that can save this situation is total and comolete honesty and the reason why the DNC has to recend Obama's nomination.
This is a National Security matter. It will devide this country. I don't want to get caught up in a racial war. PERIOD. You are all suppose to protect our National Security from foriegn and domestic threats.
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Posted by: liz
Comment: #2
Tue Apr 1, 2008 7:54 PM
Rev. Wright's statements are less scary to me than what is being taught in churches throughout this country, that we are living in the end times. Less scary than a President who, from what he's heard from his spiritual advisors, believes he is conducting a holy war and making decisions to bring that about. Christians, Jews, Muslims, all familiar with the prophecy of end times and Armagedon. All of them wondering if the Battle is at hand. I also think a person who "damn's" America is actually damning the leaders who have taken a great nation with great promise and led her almost to the eve of destruction. My opinion of Obama will be predicated on his ability to guide our great country and her people, not on what or who he did or did not listen to at his church. I'll be glad when all the finger pointing stops and America realizes with the one finger pointing at Barak, they've three fingers pointing at themselves.
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