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Men Trigger Gruff, Not Peace

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My husband Sam headed west in the 70s in a VW microbus with peace signs painted on it, and he ended up in a commune in Washington.

Imagine my surprise when I learned of his recent confrontation with my brother (of all people). Sam was essentially daring my brother to "take his eyebrow off." OK, so my brother has a mean swing and a reputation for defending himself. But Sam loves my brother.

Did he just let the anger overwhelm him and lose his temper? Yes, but there's more to it than that. It's a guy thing!

When guys are together, they use the speaking style appropriate to the context and the relationship, the same way they would for a job interview or a conversation with an aunt, according to Deborah Tannen, Ph.D., author of "I Only Say This Because I Love You."

The gruff manner and hostile teasing demonstrate friendship. That arm punching thing? It's a display of affection. And the one-upping each other and putting each other down are signs that they're comfortable friends.

So, when there's anger to be expressed or a defense to be made, perhaps men rise (or stoop, as the case may be) to another level of gruffness?

As men age and learn more about communication, though, they realize that they have options for expressing themselves. They also lose some of the brute strength of their youth!

Middle-aged male friends stop drinking sooner than college buds. They're more apt to have a wife waiting for them; and they want to get a good night's sleep and take care of business in the morning.

Some would argue that the decline in testosterone is what mellows a man. Maybe, but women have always had a gift for increasing a man's testosterone, while melting away his gruffness.

Real men don't have as much to prove as boys do. They have learned to decide for themselves what's appropriate and what serves them … and the rest of humanity.

So why did Sam lose it and stoop to, "Come on, take my eyebrow off"? Had he heard one too many stories from my brother? Was he feeling inept as a peacemaker?

It only took him about 15 minutes to apologize.

I'm guessing it only took him about two seconds to realize the error of his way — he needed the 15 minutes to accept the truth and admit it out loud.

It took my brother longer than that to accept his apology. It was all he could do to restrain himself — he wasn't quite up for another challenge 15 minutes later.

Sam called me and told me what happened. But as Hillary Clinton would say (OK, maybe she wouldn't say it again), I "wasn't some little woman 'standing by my man' like Tammy Wynette." He knows I love him unconditionally; he also knows I give him the truth without painting it pink.

How could the confrontation have been avoided? How can our confrontations be avoided?

— Look for warning signs. "Guy thing" or not, too much of it is a red flag. When your ego gets bruised, it strikes back; and you can't blame your gender or somebody else for it.

— Develop an awareness of the pain you feel before it turns to anger. Share what's really bothering you.

— Once you are angry, don't let it build up. Look at why. It's not because somebody else screwed up; it's because you think you did.

— Pay attention to your words. Make sure they're true — don't exaggerate or generalize. He doesn't "always" do that. Acknowledge the good as well as the "bad."

While context — the guys, an interview, an aunt — can dictate what's appropriate, it doesn't dictate what's true. When you hear yourself trying to prove something, remember that it generally has more to do with your ego than the truth.

And peace has never been found outside of the truth.

Jan Denise is a columnist, author of the just released "Innately Good: Dispelling the Myth That You're Not" and "Naked Relationships," speaker and consultant based in McIntosh, Fla. Please e-mail her at jandenise@nakedrelationships.com, or visit her website at www.nakedrelationships.com. To find out more about Jan Denise, and read features by other Creators Syndicate writers and cartoonists, visit the Creators Syndicate website at www.creators.com.

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men are stupid no matter what age they are -- most of them anyway. useless.
Comment: #1
Posted by: osoozzq
Sat Dec 12, 2009 5:05 PM
When the very structure of society since the dawn of agriculture demands that men compete for the basic human needs of sex and food, you can expect men to compete.

If you want cooperation, make that demand consistent across all of society. But no, women want men to be antler bashing thugs in one way or another in almost every area of life.

Women these days either seem to revel in the gladiatorial games (every fight video on the net has some girl cheering in the crowd "kick his #$% honey!") or they act all shocked and superior. And yet they are more than happy to announce their search for a winner.

Well, in 99% of cases for there to be a human winner there has to be a human loser. Men are generally required by women to fight. A woman's role in society these days is to a large degree a shame dispenser designed to keep men acting their part. To see an idealized/exaggerated example, watch the Batman Begins/Dark Knight.

If we arrested and convicted every perpetrator of every instance of assault, there would be more men in prison than out. Is there an able bodied man over 20 in the United States today that hasn't been in a fight? How about women?

What is a bar? A place to hunt a mate. Ever heard of a bar fight?

Fighting is, thanks to the demands of monogamy and television, nearly unavoidable.

Example, if a couple is sitting in the park having dinner and some random guy walks up and calls the woman something sexually profane, what percentage of women would approve of or even openly demand a physical response be meted out on their behalf?

Women like to talk about sensitivity and all the other enlightened demands you would expect of a generation exposed to Dr Phil, but in the end. The ladies tend to go home with the Alpha, no matter how he asserted himself.
Comment: #2
Posted by: Brandon M. Sergent
Mon Feb 22, 2010 1:33 AM
Have your webmaster fix how paragraph breaks are handled please.
Comment: #3
Posted by: Brandon M. Sergent
Mon Feb 22, 2010 1:34 AM
You are a foolish woman. Go to the Marion County Clerk of Courts records. Your husband has a 20 year history of domestic violence. The altercation with your brother is nothing new, it is a way of life for him. He has a very bad reputation in Ocala, Florida.
Comment: #4
Posted by: DonnaW
Sat Sep 18, 2010 3:11 PM
You really don't know who you are married to do you? Sam as you call him is Horace Osborne Ferguson III. He has been married and divorced multiple times. He has destroyed the lives of so many women and children over the past 30 years. While you only dated each other a few mnonths, there is much you do not know about this man. He is not well. He has a family history of mental illness including schizophrenia, bipolar disorder and paranoia. Go to the Marion County Clerk of courts and type in his name. He has a very long history of domestic violence with multiple women. He was an abused child and became an abuser. Do yourself a favor and get away from him. While you represent love and good, he is evil and darkness. He will change your nature and destroy you. Contact the women he has been married to and in relationship with. This is not a man you want to be with. As you say, the truth will set you free and you need to know the truth.
Comment: #5
Posted by: Glenda
Wed Sep 22, 2010 12:20 PM
Jan Denise is a fake and a fraud. While her current husband was still in relationship with a woman and child, she was dating him. They married with a few months and he was still living with another. Her husband has been on the down-low and is really a gay man. He has ruined the lives of so many men and women over the years. These two are the perfect match; she is an opportunist and he uses people to get what he wants. She calls Gleneden her own, but it belongs to her husband only. They live separate lives and while she counsels couples, she is in a loveless marriage to a man who does not know what love is and who doesn't even like women.
Comment: #6
Posted by: LisaB
Sat Dec 11, 2010 9:02 PM
MTE
Hi. I'd like to talk some more at this thread ,because it is so off topic at the other column ,and this column and thread are two months old anyway. I can't believe you graduated in 1983 too and live so close to me! It's a small world. I grew up in Nassau and moved here(near Sunken Meadow) about 14 years ago. What area of Suffolk do you live in? I'll have to look into meetup.com now.lol. I'll check this thread every day to read your comments
Comment: #7
Posted by:
Thu Mar 10, 2011 9:31 PM
Re: marty
I live near the Islip-MacArthur airport. I can see and hear the planes take off to destinations unknown. I like to imagine where I'd be going if I were on each one. :)

There are many meetup groups on LI, some tend to 'meetup' mostly in Nassau and some mostly in Suffolk. Since the groups are centered around one particular interest, you will find that the same people belong to multiple groups. For instance, Sunrise Social is a nice broad-category group.

Just click on 'FIND a group', type in your favorite interests and zip code. It's that easy. What's difficult is deciding which events to attend (since they all seem to be occurring at the same times). :D
Comment: #8
Posted by: MTE
Fri Mar 11, 2011 4:48 AM
Re: MTE- Why don't we use this thread? I don't "trigger gruff" but I like the irony. I am single and have never been married.I have no kids. What about you?
Comment: #9
Posted by:
Fri Mar 11, 2011 10:29 AM
Re: marty
I'm single, no kids, previously married at a very young age and against my better judgement; divorced 18 years and not actively looking to be married again. Just want to meet someone like-minded, with no addictions, who can think of the welfare of other people more often than he does his own.
For many individuals, being "that responsible" is way too much of a "drag". It's sad that being thoughtful, kind and caring is such a "downer". Our individual priorities are out of line with the goals of society. It's why many people around the world look down their noses at Americans. When I travel abroad, most people make the assumption that I'm European, which I consider a compliment. :)
Did you look at Meetup? What do you think?
Comment: #10
Posted by: MTE
Fri Mar 11, 2011 9:15 PM
Re: MTE-
You're right that it's hard to find people that care about others more than they care about themselves. I get tired of society telling me I'm "not a real man" because I'm not the macho stereotype. I don't think society is the touchstone of reality. It's more of a confederacy that worships power,money ,celebritites,etc--just about anything that isn't real.
I checked meetup.com. It looks good,but there are so many things to choose from. Here's my e-mail if you want to write with more privacy than we have here: klipspringer@breakthru.com
Comment: #11
Posted by:
Sat Mar 12, 2011 10:51 AM
Re: MTE
Addendum to post above: I'm not rushing to get married either! I just wanted to make sure you weren't "separated." I have high standards,and I wouldn't even want to e-mail a woman I thought was attached to another man. After reading Susan's column for years I'm a firm believer in not dating. I'm a low-maintenance man who is just looking for a buddy to hang out with or just e-mail. My e-mail address is posted above. I hope you avail yourself of it.
Comment: #12
Posted by:
Sat Mar 12, 2011 11:14 AM
Re: marty
Sent you an email to your address but you may need to 'clear' my address (liny11779@breakthru.com) by adding it to your access list. This email site looked so interesting that I signed up for an account. Hope that you don't mind. :)
Comment: #13
Posted by: MTE
Sat Mar 12, 2011 2:36 PM
Other people here can reach me at the above e-mail address (in comment #11)if they want.
Comment: #14
Posted by:
Mon May 30, 2011 6:03 PM
"Griff" is an adective and cannot be "triggered."
Comment: #15
Posted by: Mary
Tue Aug 28, 2012 7:46 AM
Mary you are posting on a 2 year old column and what is a griff - no where is griff mentioned, gruff is but not griff. You are correcting someone? Kinda ironic.
Comment: #16
Posted by: Susan V
Sun Sep 9, 2012 8:25 PM
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