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Dear Margo: For a few years now, my marriage has been very lonely, and my spouse is difficult in the best of times. I admit: I was looking for a thrill and had an affair with a married man who had similar marriage woes. To my utter shock and dismay, I've found that this man is completely perfect for me and we connect on all levels. We've fallen deeply in love and have developed an incredible friendship.

I know people scoff at this type of thing, and I frankly never thought such a thing could happen. We are generally sane, responsible people, though, and agreed not to break up our families; we will tolerate our disappointing spouses in order to give our children the best possible future. We've taken the difficult step of giving up most of our relationship together and now just send e-mails because we both still need the lifeline. But honestly, I am devastated. I don't know how to break such bonds of love and friendship. I am living with one man and loving and missing another. I am slowly falling apart inside and running out of reasons to explain my sadness and depression to those around me. I don't know what to do. — Grieving

Dear Grieve: I only give you this advice because I have lived it and I believe in it. Although I never left one man for another, I think life is too short to be trapped in a marriage that is the polar opposite of fulfilling. Yes, divorce takes a toll on children, but so does a sad and depressed mother. I don't know whether the man of your dreams is willing to leave his family, but if he is, I would suggest you go ahead and remake your lives. If he will not (which is more often than not the case), I recommend that you sever all ties and see a counselor about outmaneuvering the depression. Then, too, children grow up.

Good luck figuring this out. — Margo, progressively

Calling All Lovelorn!

Dear Readers: I've never tried anything like this before, but the request below strikes me as worthwhile. I believe in studies, and honestly, who better than my audience for this particular subject? So if you think you have something to add, be my guest.

Dear Margo: I am a psychology Ph.D. student and am currently undertaking a research project on how people process and are affected by hurtful events. This includes factors such as how long people hold on to hurt feelings; how the importance of the relationship and type of event affect the intensity of the hurt; and what other emotions they tend to experience at the same time as the hurt.

I am currently in an important phase of my research, that of data collection, and I am finding it difficult to meet my required participant numbers. Given that this is a topic that you and your readers know first-hand, I was wondering whether I could ask for your help in completing my data collection, which takes the form of two questionnaires that can be completed online. Participants are welcome to complete one or both of the questionnaires. Participants need to be 18 years or older and currently involved in a romantic relationship to be eligible. More details about the project and the questionnaires, as well as links to the questionnaires themselves, can be found at www.hurtlab.com.

Some preliminary results from this project were published in a number of media outlets late last year, but there are many more interesting findings that will come out of this research. However, I won't be able to investigate these without sufficient participant numbers. Thank you very much for your time. I greatly appreciate it. — Jodie Burchell in Australia

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Re: Grieving, I would say Margo is right. There are times when it's best to pack your bags, say a respectful goodbye, and move on. The affair the letter writer describes is one issue, but her unhappiness and loneliness in her marriage is the one that needs addressing.
It's great when couples can work out their differences and find a way to live together peacefully. Usually this involves letting go of illusions of "true love" or the other person meeting all of your needs. But when it's just not going to happen, when your spouse is distant and uncaring, when you feel stuck and tied to someone who you truly can't relate to anymore, and see only years of that in the future, it's time to let go and move on. As far as we know, we only go around once. We can either spend our lives unhappy, which does no one any good, or face that it aint workin' and start over again. More power to Margo for not pushing people to stay in unhappy relationships.
Comment: #1
Posted by: sarah morrow
Fri Feb 19, 2010 7:58 AM
Re: Grieving, I would say Margo is right. There are times when it's best to pack your bags, say a respectful goodbye, and move on. The affair the letter writer describes is one issue, but her unhappiness and loneliness in her marriage is the one that needs addressing.

It's great when couples can work out their differences and find a way to live together peacefully. Usually this involves letting go of illusions of "true love" or the other person meeting all of your needs. But when it's just not going to happen, when your spouse is distant and uncaring, when you feel stuck and tied to someone who you truly can't relate to anymore, and see only years of that in the future, it's time to let go and move on. As far as we know, we only go around once. We can either spend our lives unhappy, which does no one any good, or face that it aint workin' and start over again. More power to Margo for not pushing people to stay in unhappy relationships.
Comment: #2
Posted by: sarah morrow
Fri Feb 19, 2010 7:59 AM
Oops, sorry to have posted twice... I thought the original post had not gone through.
Comment: #3
Posted by: sarah morrow
Fri Feb 19, 2010 7:59 AM
Margo is 100% right. Both my husband and I left unhappy marriages and found each other. We have been together 15 years and we are each other's soulmate. Had we not had the courage to leave our first marriages, we would not be together today. May God bless you during your journey on this difficult road.
Comment: #4
Posted by: Lucy
Fri Feb 19, 2010 5:44 PM
Lady, you are so wrong! My son and his 15 year old daughter and 6 year old daughter are going through this right now. His wife of 18 years left him for another man. The man has 2 children 6 and 10. You have no idea of the problems, trauma, heartache, this selfish act is causing. My son has gotten counseling for his 15 year old daughter. She feels, rightly so, that her mom chose the man over her. She feels her mom turned her back on the family. You think she will not be scared for life? This effects grandparents, friends, other members of the family.
Financially, things are a mess. To make matters worse, these two rats are living together in front of God, the children and the town all because "it is meant to be". They had known each other all of 4 months. Turns out he has a bad reputation of inappropriate behavior around teenager girls. They are both teachers. Fine examples they are.
Comment: #5
Posted by: Anita
Fri Feb 19, 2010 6:41 PM
Lady, you have no idea of the problems, trauma, heartache this selfish act causes. My son, his 15 and 6 year old girls are going through this right now. His wife of 18 years left him for another man who has two children 10 and 6.
My son has temporary custody of the girls and has put his 15 year old girl in counseling. She feels like, rightly so, her mom has chosen the man over her. She feels like her mom turned her back on the family, which she did. You think this is not going to scar her forever? Plus, the horrible example of these two insensitive, arrogarnt rats living together in front of God, the children and the town. This effects grandparents, other family members, and friends. amazingling, this pair had known each other 4 months when it happened. Neither one is getting a prize.
Comment: #6
Posted by: Anita
Fri Feb 19, 2010 6:51 PM
I have a better idea. Suck it up, work on your actual marriage, stop whining about your 'disappointing' marriage, and realize that YOU TOOK THOSE VOWS FOR A REASON. Or did you lie, only meaning "in health and good times"? Selfish move.
Comment: #7
Posted by: Red
Fri Feb 19, 2010 7:44 PM
Re: Anita
I think you are talking about a completely different situation. Neither Margo nor anyone here is approving or advocating the sort of selfish behavior your ex-daughter-in-law exhibited. But divorce doesn't have to be a reckless abandonment of all who have depended on you. Parents who can't make a happy home together can separate to make two happier, better homes for their children. They need to think, move carefully and communicate thoroughly with their families and friends. (All things your ex-DIL apparently didn't bother with, but other people can and have.) I have a personal stake in this advice, because I can only imagine what a wreck I'd be if my parents stayed together. Now I have two wonderful, loving step-parents. Four happy parents are better than two depressed, silent, isolated ones.
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Posted by: V W
Fri Feb 19, 2010 8:03 PM
Re: V W ___ You are so right! I wish my parents had divorced. They stayed together "for the sake of the child" (me), and made both themselves and me miserable. Watching their unhappy marriage was more destructive than handling their divorce would have been. As a kid, I used to dream of the time they would not be living in the same household, trying to hide their mutual resentment from me and succeeding less and less every day. When I was 13, I asked my mother to please divorce my dad. She told me that I didn't understand - it was better for me to have two parents in the same household than to shuttle between two homes. Yeah, right. Even at 13, I knew better, and now in my 40s, I haven't changed my mind. Margo is right: divorce does not equal abandonment, and it may be healthier for all involved, including the children, if the LW and her husband went their separate ways. I would say, however, that she needs to put a hold on her affair until her divorce is final. If she and her paramour are, indeed, connected on so many levels that they are each other's lifeline, they can wait to resume their relationship when it is no longer cheating.
Comment: #9
Posted by: Ariana
Fri Feb 19, 2010 9:53 PM
Once you decide to bring kids into this world, your life no longer gets to be about you. Your personal (and probably momentary) fulfillment is no reason to upset 2 families worth of children's lives. Drop the affair-even teh emails-and put that effort into your marriage. Get into counseling, yes, by all means, by yourself to work on your issues (cheating and blaming your spouse? real original and adult) and and together to work on the marriage IF he'll keep you after you cheated.

Children of divorce do worse than children of intact families in every area. Suck it up, grow up, and raise your kids well.
Comment: #10
Posted by: farrar sanchez
Sat Feb 20, 2010 6:53 AM
Re: children of divorce doing worse in all areas than children of intact families. That is one sweeping generalization. Is it better for the children if the parents stay together when one of them is a abuser? An alcoholic? A drug addict? A serial cheater? How children will fare in life depends a lot on how the family relationships and/or divorces are handled, not on whether the parents are married to each other.
Comment: #11
Posted by: Ariana
Sat Feb 20, 2010 9:55 AM
My mother married a difficult man and stayed with him for "the sake of the children." Three of the children have similar, miserable marriages with lots of conflict, yelling, screaming, etc. and one (that's me) never married rather than repeat the behavior. But do not leave one man's home for another leave for yourself. Get counseling to figure out how to end this marriage in a constructive way that will be least disruptive to your children. Additionally, examine how you ended up with a difficult man to begin with because chances are you are going to go from one unhappy union to another if you do not figure out how or why you were attracted to this man in the first place.
Comment: #12
Posted by: Kate
Sat Feb 20, 2010 3:10 PM
My DIL and her lover immediatly began living together, which has added greatly to the confusion and hurt. It has been just two months since she left. At 7 week these two insensitive, self-centered people had all four kids over to their place. ""Their new family"" as my DIL stated. The 15 year old was so disgusted. She felt like her mother was forcing her to be with him. So now she is refusing to go. The little 6 year old doesn't have a lot of choice. At least, there is a stipulation that niether one of these rats can spend the night with the other ones' children there. But they are still around them some. What an immoral example for these kids. Their relationship is built on the misery of others. The lover's wife has to live with this Jezabell saying of her lover's daughter, "She is my new daughter"". My DIL is planning the wedding and probably 3 or 4 weeks ago said my granddaughter and her lover's daughter would be flower girls. UNBELIEVABLE! My son and my DIL marriage wasn't that bad. About 9 months ago she had called him her hero. This man is a slick talker and bowled her over. Compliments, etc.
Comment: #13
Posted by: Anita
Sat Feb 20, 2010 5:18 PM
Dear Grieving:

I have been on the shoes of that man's wife. My husband had an affair with a married woman and we are still together. I never knew how far their relationship went but it seem to have been an emotional affair. My advice to you is , that lots of marriages goes thru periods of disconnect. Some people choice to look of a thrill but most of people choose not to. I felt the same way and many times considered going that route. I'm so glad I didn't . I learned that my discontent with my husband was very much my responsibllity. I had to do a lot of painful soul searching but I'm glad I did. The rewards are worth it !!

In regards to how you feel about this married man. I feel sad but at the same time wanted to tell you that people that play with fire they ussually get burned. You claim that you are both sane people. But sane people do not do such recklace and selfish things. You knew than an affair with a married man was wrong but did it anyways. You decided to play with the most precious thing that you have ,YOUR HEART !! You are now paying the consequences of your selfish behavior.

Your marriage had difficulties before you started this relationship and it still does. The affair did not chance that it only made it worse. You DID choose this route and it has cost you dearly. My feeling are that the pain that you are suffering is the inabilty that your heart have to trully connect in a love relationship and that it is probably you choose an unavailable man. THE ISSUES THAT YOU ARE FACING HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH EITHER MEN , THEY HAVE TO DO WITH YOU !! SOLVE YOUR BROKEN HEART BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T , ALL THE PEOPLE THAT ARE AROUND YOUR HEART WILL SUFFER. For the future choose to be the sane person you claim to be and found out what is really going on with you . AN AFFAIR IS NEVER THE ANSWER.

Comment: #14
Posted by: lynn talty
Wed Feb 24, 2010 3:16 AM
Do Not destroy your children. Stay in the marraige and get counselling. If you and loverboy actually love each other you can get together after your children are grown. Take some responsibility for your actions and put a smile on your face every day. Anyone who thinks children come out of divorce unscathed lives in some parallel universe. Abuse is another matter but simple sefishness is never a reason to ruin other lives. Seen it and have watched the broken lives that result.
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