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Dear Annie: I am a blessed child of two wonderful, loving people. My parents are incredibly generous. Right now, they are putting my sister through school and paying all of her expenses so she will graduate debt-free. They have helped me in countless ways, both emotionally and financially, and my husband, as well. They have custody of my cousin's child because my cousin is a drug addict. They also help my grandfather, saying how fortunate they are to be in a position to do so.

My issue is with "Aunt Liz." Ever since I can remember, she's been sponging off my parents. My parents are raising her grandchild, and she can't even be bothered to baby-sit for a day. Liz used to work full time, but was temporarily on disability. When she was able to work again, she managed to lose every job she had. She doesn't even try anymore. She just asks my parents for money.

My mom is stressed about the number of people depending on her and worries what will happen when she and Dad retire. She has started refusing when Aunt Liz wants money, but Liz will go to my father's workplace and cry until he gives in.

Annie, it would be different if Liz were making an effort to become independent, but she's not. How can I help my parents? — Sick of It

Dear Sick: Make sure your parents know how grateful you are for everything they have done for you. At the rate they are going, you may need to return the favor someday. Meanwhile, you cannot change the choices they make, but you can encourage them to present a united front to Liz, whatever it happens to be.

Dear Annie: I'm a newlywed. My wife and I get along great, but we are experiencing growing pains.

She has a Facebook account, and one of her photos is what I would deem overly risque. She is dressed, but barely. As her husband, this really bothers me. I've told her how I feel, but she doesn't want to discuss it.

Don't I have any say in the matter? — Husband With No Say

Dear Husband: Not as much as you think. You don't get to dictate how your wife presents herself. However, a wife who cares for her husband takes his opinions into consideration (and vice versa) and responds in a way that shows respect for the marriage. We wouldn't make too big a deal over this. It's probably temporary. Your wife sounds a bit immature, but time should take care of that.

Dear Annie: This is a response to "Still Cry About It," who wasn't sure how she'd react if the baby she gave up for adoption showed up on her doorstep after 25 years.

I'd like to thank her. My husband and I adopted an infant more than 25 years ago. She is the light of our lives. From the start, we told her she was adopted. (Although when she was little, she repeated to others that she was "a doctor.") She does not wish to meet her birth mother, but we have given her all the necessary information to do so.

I want to tell my daughter and all adopted children that what their birth mothers did took courage. It's not the easy road, and it probably wasn't the path her friends were encouraging her to take. She did it because she was mature enough and strong enough to do what she thought was best for her child.

We would never want our daughter to judge her birth mother harshly. That woman not only allowed me to become a mother, but made me want to be the best mother because I owed it to her and the sacrifice she made. It took all of us for my daughter to become the person she is, and I am eternally grateful to the woman who gave birth to her. — With a Grateful Heart

Dear Grateful: Every birth parent will bless you for your kind words.

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Re: Maria

Hugs if okay! Thank you for sharing your story, that was very brave of you...

I experience pain from repairs to correct childbirth injuries that were done along with my hyst, inside and out, including rebuilding my perineum completely, so I understand. It doesn't totally stop me from being able to enjoy it, it's slowly improving with time, and in some ways it's better than what I used to live with, but we still have to take it slow, and take breaks of up to a week in between, or else the scar tissue reminds me that I'm not as young or intact as I used to be. Like your husband mine has been a wonderful and patient man about that, as well as times my PTSD flares up and makes me incapable of getting intimate on that end.
Comment: #1
Posted by: PS
Wed Aug 11, 2010 9:07 PM
Oh doggone it! Sorry guys, my post was meant as a reply to one from yesterday's discussion! Sometimes I hate how the comments feature messes things up :-(
Comment: #2
Posted by: PS
Wed Aug 11, 2010 9:09 PM
To the newlywed concerned about his wife's facebook. Out of consideration fro him, she should have removed the picture since it bothered him. However, perhaps he could approach it a different way. Many employers now have facebook. They check the facebook pages of employees and potential employees. He could suggest that perhaps for the sake of her career, or future career if she is a student, she might want to make sure there is nothing that would be seen as "unprofessional."
Comment: #3
Posted by: Elizabeth
Wed Aug 11, 2010 9:11 PM
Elizabeth is right... if the man or his wife are angling for "respectable" careers, the wife should remove the skintight bikini pics from Facebook. If not, he might want to consider posing in a skintight thong that "shows off the boys" and putting in on Facebook, to see how she likes it.
Comment: #4
Posted by: sarah morrow
Wed Aug 11, 2010 10:13 PM
Sarah... if LW2 posts a beefcake pic then he totally blows his argument about respectability vs career... and if the wife is as immature as the Annie's think she is, then she'd probably embrace the idea...
Comment: #5
Posted by: MMB
Wed Aug 11, 2010 10:32 PM
I agree with MMB: if LW2 posts a barely-clad pic of himself, he is "stooping" to his wife's level. It's not a matter of "seeing how SHE likes it"; instead it's just as foolish are her actions. The Annies are probably right that the wife is immature, yet she's also being very irresponsible. First, the employers who check Facebook for "private or withheld information" about prospective employees makes removing the photo the right thing to do. Second, there are plenty of sexual predators who "look" for pictures of victims in vulnerable situations, and with the increase of computer identity theft and computer hackers out there, someone undesirable or even dangerous could end up in the lady's workplace or neighborhood, or both. If the wife is truly "proud" of her body and wants to carry that pic of herself to show friends and workmates, that's still risky, but definitely better and safer than plastering it all over her Facebook account.
Comment: #6
Posted by: Jean
Thu Aug 12, 2010 12:23 AM
In sarah morrow's defense, my understanding of her comment about "seeing how she likes it" doesn't mean that the husband should be just as foolish, for the sake of being equal. I read her comment to mean that he should do it to elicit his wife's reaction and shock her into realizing exactly how stupid it is, hopefully finally convincing her to take her photo down. At which point he would also remove his ridiculous photo, too. And that he would only resort to this tactic, after he has first tried the route of maturely communicating that it might be bad for her career to have a photo like that up on Facebook, and been unsuccessful with that conversation. But that's just my own interpretation of what sarah morrow was saying.

Personally, I think that LW2 is being too controlling. No, I wouldn't want my spouse putting risque photos of himself/herself up on the web, but I'd communicate my concern and then realize that they are an adult and let it go.

For LW1, I sure hope they can get through to the parents that they need to cut Aunt Liz off. They need to learn how to not fall for guilt trips. She's just being parasitic.
Comment: #7
Posted by: FAW
Thu Aug 12, 2010 12:54 AM
FAW, thanks for giving your viewpoint on Sarah's comment, and as I look back on it, I tend to agree with you. At first it seemed a bit like "take that, girlie" yet I suspect your interpretation is most likely very close to Sarah's meaning.
Comment: #8
Posted by: Jean
Thu Aug 12, 2010 1:28 AM
LW1 should start funneling some of her parents' "generosity" into a savings account for their future. As for Aunt Liz, she's a lost cause. While she may be a parasite affixed to her parents' bank accounts, she's still family and as long as her parents don't mind supporting her, LW1 can't really do anything about it.
LW2's wife does sound immature. This isn't a case where fighting fire with fire is appropriate for all the reasons the LW states but perhaps a little reverse psychology will do the trick. Indeed, if LW2's wife is so proud of her scantily clad Facebook picture, then she certainly shouldn't mind one bit if her husband has this picture enlarged and has a package of glossies printed. He can place a large framed copy of the picture on his desk at work; carry a copy in his wallet to show off to his coworkers and colleagues, or send prints out in the annual Christmas card to friends and family. I'd bet once the wife starts seeing this silly picture of herself in "real life" she'll remove it pronto.
Comment: #9
Posted by: Chris
Thu Aug 12, 2010 5:05 AM
Chris, the answer to LW1's problem is not to make an attempt to publicly humiliate her. Not exactly a good basis for a marriage. She'll get sick of the photo eventually and if an employer finds it or someone else makes a comment that compels her to remove it sooner, so much the better. The Annies are right in that this is a battle that shouldn't be made into a war.
Comment: #10
Posted by: limniade
Thu Aug 12, 2010 6:29 AM
@Liminade LW2 doesn't have to publicly humiliate his wife; she did that to herself once she placed the picture on the World Wide Web. She's insensitive to her husband's justifiable objections to the photo and refuses to remove it. And before you parrot something about Facebook security, I'll tell you right now that there's no such thing as security when it comes to the Internet and especially to social networking sites. Once something is posted on a server beyond your control, it's out there forever.
Comment: #11
Posted by: Chris
Thu Aug 12, 2010 6:56 AM
LW2 does not define what he means by "risque." Is the picture of the wife in a bikini at the beach? Perfectly appropriate. Is she in her bra & panties, holding a beer bong? Not so much. She could be immature and naive. He could be nasty and controlling. Hard to say. We don't have much information here, and only his side of the story. The more disturbing part for me is that she doesn't appear willing to discuss his feelings on the issue.
Comment: #12
Posted by: fft5305
Thu Aug 12, 2010 8:18 AM
I just want to point out that we haven't seen the photo and we only know LW2's perception of it. It's possible that the photo is meant to be provocative and his reaction is understandable, but it's also possible that it's just a bathing suit photo and he is overreacting. In any case, I agree with the Annies. It's the wife's profile, her business. Beyond mentioning that he's uncomfortable, it's best for the husband not to make such a big deal of it. And for every employer who does care about this sort of thing, there's another who doesn't. I think the more prevalent Facebook becomes, the less it will matter (unless content is really egregious, scary, etc.).
Comment: #13
Posted by: Van Wickle
Thu Aug 12, 2010 8:24 AM
Ha, fft5305, you beat me to it! :-)
Comment: #14
Posted by: Van Wickle
Thu Aug 12, 2010 8:27 AM
LW1: Your parents need to be a united front when it comes to Aunt Liz. Just keep on saying no. Over and over again until it finally sinks in that she won't be getting any help from them. They could also "hire" her to babysit her own grandchild or maybe do some house or yard work for them. That way, they get a break and she will know the joy of actually earning money. (I wouldn't bet on it though!)
LW2: Unless the wife has a job where a FB account could be a disability, let it go. You don't want to come off as the controlling husband.
LW3: You rock!
Comment: #15
Posted by: Joan
Thu Aug 12, 2010 9:43 AM
LW2 Points out he is a newlywed. I would love to know why this bothers him, 'as her husband' ? Apparently as her fiance or boyfriend it was okay to have it posted. If you knew it was there before don't complain after.
Comment: #16
Posted by: Cathy
Thu Aug 12, 2010 12:46 PM
LW1: I have to disagree with something the Annie's said: "At the rate they are going, you may need to return the favor someday. Meanwhile, you cannot change the choices they make, but you can encourage them to present a united front to Liz, whatever it happens to be."

I agree that the LW cannot influence her parents (if she disagrees with them, she risks alienating herself from them). At the same time, if the parents bankrupt themselves supporting this no good leech of an aunt, the LW is in NO way obligated to help her parents. Some people seem to think that their charitable works will fall back upon them (which makes the effort in no way altruistic, you don't do something expecting something back in return, even if from another source). The parents may seem to think that it's ok to risk their retirement by helping those in need, because once they themselves are in need, someone will help them. This is false thinking.

The mother seems to recognize downward spiral, so the daughter should join forces with the mother to encourage the father to stop supporting Aunt Liz. Hopefully, the LW and her mother can get through to this man before he sends his wife and himself to the poor house, or one of his daughter's spare bedrooms.

Just as the LWs parents are enabling Liz's behavior by continuing to give her money, the LW would herself enable her parents behavior if she supported them after the gave away all their money. If it comes down to it, the LW needs to make it clear that she will not support her parents if they choose to give away all their money, and mean it. She wouldn't support her parents if they were crack addicts unwilling to give up their habit, would she?
Comment: #17
Posted by: Nathan H.
Thu Aug 12, 2010 2:05 PM
Anyone else notice how many people are mentioned by LW1 as being helped financially by her parents? The LW and her husband, her sister (by paying entirely for schooling and all her expenses; the grandfather and Aunt Liz. The LW is obviously grateful, but please...the parents are not just letting money go to Aunt Liz. They're all having a share in it. If they are banding together to cut out Aunt Liz, how about including themselves in that? Just a thought.
Comment: #18
Posted by: JustMe
Thu Aug 12, 2010 5:19 PM
I disagree with you Nathan. I don't think it's about being "obligated" to help her parents because they have continually supported her, it's about being a family and appreciating what her parents have done for her and being willing to return the favor at some later point. I can't believe that you would think it's okay for the entire family to take money and support from LW1's parents for so many years and then if the parents have financial troubles later in life, to say "sorry, you made your bed, now lie in it". What a hurtful, selfish, narcissistic thing to do to your parents because you think they should have only supported you and no one else. It's not the parents saying "hey you owe me now" it's the Annie's saying "don't forget that these are your parents who love you and are good to you, keep in mind that if you are a good, loving daughter you may need to help support them later in life". At least the parents' "mistake" is not that they spent too much on themselves in life, living above their incomes, but that they are hearts too big for their wallet. How cruel to throw that back on them when they are in need.
Comment: #19
Posted by: michelle
Mon Aug 16, 2010 5:31 AM
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