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Annie's Mailbox®, February 15

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Dear Annie: I'm 17 years old and, in a few months, will be graduating and going away to college. I'm very excited about it.

My only concern is my boyfriend. I love him, and we've been together a long time. "Nick" is a year older, has a job (I have a job, as well.) and goes to the local community college. He wants to live with me next year. I am not opposed to this. Nick doesn't have a happy home life, and I don't believe either of us will be attracted to someone else.

We have already had months of planning and will be able to support ourselves, and I would rather move in with him than live in a dorm. Nick can transfer and work at the same company as a full-time employee until we save enough for him to take night classes.

I haven't told my mother. She will be paying for my tuition and dorm, and I plan to pay for everything else. She thinks highly of Nick and knows he would never do anything to hurt me. I don't want to disappoint her, nor do I want her to think less of me. What should I tell her? — Worried

Dear Worried: The truth and your reasoning behind it. But first consider what your decision means. How will you feel if Nick decides to keep working and never finishes his education? What happens if one of you finds the new environment has many "attractions" you hadn't considered? Also, dorm living is a good way to acclimate to college, meet new people and be part of campus life. Will you regret missing out on that? If your mother refuses to pay your rent, can you still afford it? Think about these issues, and then ask your mother to set aside a few quiet moments to have an honest discussion on the subject.

Dear Annie: What is the etiquette concerning a hostess who frequently uses her laptop or texts others while entertaining company?

My husband and I have been invited to a friend's home a couple of times in the past few weeks.

After dinner and cleanup, this hostess plops down on the couch and proceeds to use her laptop or send text messages to other friends. I find this rude.

Should we leave right after dinner so as not to interrupt her activities? I am afraid she would be insulted. What would you do? — Ignored Friends

Dear Ignored: Your friend may be occupying herself in the hope that you will get the hint and leave. So accommodate her. Politely. Say, "We can see that you are busy, so we'll be going. It's been a lovely evening. Thank you." Frankly, staying through cleanup is usually sufficient visiting time. If your friend seriously protests your departure, it means she has no clue that she is being rude. Either way, there is no reason to stay if she continues to be unavailable.

Dear Annie: This is in response to "Sad in Ohio," whose abrasive mother picks fights and has no friends left. You said Mom may be depressed or have an underlying mental illness. Your advice is right on.

We lost our difficult mother last year. She didn't want us to visit unless it was at her request. Although we called, she did not answer her phone unless she wanted to talk, and because of this, we had no idea she had passed away a few days before Thanksgiving. When she died, it took two days for the police to contact us because Mother did not have our phone numbers anywhere nearby.

My mother was not diagnosed with any mental illness, but my siblings and I knew that something was wrong. We simply could not get close enough to do anything about it. We are glad she is now at peace. — Pennsylvania

Dear Pennsylvania: How sad that some people are unable or unwilling to reach out to family or friends when they need them most. We are sorry for your loss.

Annie's Mailbox is written by Kathy Mitchell and Marcy Sugar, longtime editors of the Ann Landers column. Please e-mail your questions to anniesmailbox@comcast.net, or write to: Annie's Mailbox, c/o Creators Syndicate, 5777 W. Century Blvd., Ste. 700, Los Angeles, CA 90045. To find out more about Annie's Mailbox and read features by other Creators Syndicate writers and cartoonists, visit the Creators Syndicate Web page at www.creators.com.

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I experienced a very similar situation as 17 year old Worried. Our compromise was that he worked full time and had an apartment and I lived at home and went to Community College full time and worked part time. My family was very fond of him, and he too had a very troubled home life. We married at 20, something he had been in a hurry to do. And at 21 I was devastated and divorced, having had the troubled home life he experienced rain down on my shoulders in the form of infidelity. Luckily, my parents were willing to help me finish my college degree. I missed out on the dorm life experience and we both missed an opportunity to grow up separately for awhile and perhaps come back together again as young adults more able to make a healthy long term commitment. And although 17 is not planning for marriage yet, living together would nonetheless put her heart at risk. If the relationship is meant to be, it will be after you have taken a healthy step towards independence.
Comment: #1
Posted by: Abigail Jane
Mon Feb 15, 2010 7:56 AM
"Worried" needs to know that not all colleges ALLOW freshmen to live off campus. She better check that out before making any plans.
Comment: #2
Posted by: kay
Mon Feb 15, 2010 9:42 AM
LW1, most people are at least a little nervous about living in a dorm. But if you value your boyfriend and your relationship, you won't live together just yet. Doing so is almost guaranteed to break you up, and to make that stressful event even MORE stressful for you -- you'll have to find a new place to live, find a new roomie to help you pay the rent or else suffer together until one of you can afford to move out. Living with a romantic partner, particularly if neither of you has ever roomed with a non-relative, is a huge adjustment with challenges you can't even begin to imagine until you've done it. And from everything you've written, you're both looking at moving in together as a solution to unattractive alternatives -- him to escape bad home life, you to avoid a living situation you've never tried -- rather than a natural merger of 2 independent people who are looking to make a good thing better.

Living in the dorm frees you from stupid daily living stuff like grocery shopping, food prep and cleanup, giving you time to take part in academic/extracurricular activities that will help you do better in school and life-- study groups, interest clubs, student government or publications, sports, etc . Some of those turn into post-graduation opportunities, like my friend who notified me of an out-of-state job that got my career started. If you and boyfriend are both working and attending classes, those mundane chores (and arguments about them) are going to eat up time you don't really have.

Even better, dorm life gives you regular, sustained contact with enough people that you'd be pretty hard-pressed not to find some who share your outlook and interests. My best friend and I met when we lived in adjoining dorms my freshman year -- we're still in daily contact more than 32 years later. You're not going to have time to forge those new relationships if you're trying to sustain a relationship that's undergoing changes, hold down a job, study, and feed and clothe yourself to boot.
Comment: #3
Posted by: hedgehog
Mon Feb 15, 2010 10:02 AM
I agree with other letter writers who talk about not moving in together until you have some time on your own. I met my husband at 17 and married at 18. I had taken a few college courses at a branch locally but stopped to keep working so he could get a second degree. When I went back to school, I went as an off campus married woman. I made a couple of friends and interacted with people in my classes but nothing like what people who have lived in dorms talk about, lifelong friends. I didn't join any clubs or organizations or go to sporting events because I was busy keeping house and doing tons of homework and projects and completing the incredible amount of reading required at college. My interests were different from those of students my age because of living off campus and being married. Remember, when you make one decision, you turn your back on another. Think long and hard about whether you want to give up your late teens and early twenties to being so responsible. And, moving away from a bad home environment doesn't change anything.
Comment: #4
Posted by: BB
Mon Feb 15, 2010 1:06 PM
Dear Annie,
I plead with you to print this and pass the word to the masses of manufacturers in regards to manuals/instructions. It would be greatly appreciated if data printed in multiple languages NOT be bound into one booklet; but separately. Our files our bulging and don't have room for the extra pages of foreign languages. Please spread the word.
Thank you……..from Washington State.
Comment: #5
Posted by: Connie Horton
Mon Feb 15, 2010 6:43 PM
Comment number #1 by hedgehog was really on point. I hope 17 reads your words and takes them to heart.
Comment: #6
Posted by: Abigail Jane
Thu Feb 18, 2010 6:52 AM
To "Ignored": Many couples these days have separate social networks. Just because you are friends with someone does not mean their significant other has the same interests as you. It may be that while she and her husband have enough in common to have a loving relationship, she may not have much in common with his friends and once her duties as dinner host are over she would like the rest of the evening to herself. If that's the case she's not trying to snuff you, she wants you to spend time with the one you came to visit in the first place.

For example, my husband and I both have artistic hobbies and although we both paint and do digital art, he also plays piano, guitar, violin and drums while I am musically illiterate. He has several friends with whom the only thing he has in common is a love for heavy mettle. When these people are over I am friendly and polite, but I have no desire to spend the evening pretending to know who anyone from Black Sabbath is besides Ozzy Osborne. I retreat to my own activities so as not to intrude or put forth a false effort that would be a waste of everyone's time.
Comment: #7
Posted by: Noni Ki
Sat Feb 27, 2010 4:52 AM
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