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Annie's Mailbox®, February 1

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Dear Annie: I am happily married to an amazing lady who has been my best friend since the day we met 25 years ago. Our kids are all away at college, and we love our empty nest. We keep physically fit, are in great health, are financially stable and have a satisfying social life. The only problem is in the bedroom.

Menopause hit about five years ago, and it has devastated our intimacy. We both visit our doctors regularly and have been to a counselor twice. Our doctors say everything is normal, and the counselor tried to give us some helpful advice, which my wife followed. She does her best to “be there” for me physically, and I do everything I can to be a great husband for her.

My question has to do with what the counselor told me. She said I need to accept the fact that at our age (48), and after 24 years of marriage, an exciting and fulfilling sex life was an unrealistic expectation.

Annie, I am having a hard time accepting this. While we are still intimate, it's like making love to a mannequin. And after all these years of being faithful, it's getting harder and harder to brush off the continuous opportunities to stray.

My wife and I have discussed this in detail. She can't understand why I am not able to simply “turn off” my libido the way nature has turned off hers. Is the counselor right, or is there hope that our great marriage can become complete again? — Happy and Sad in Oklahoma

Dear Oklahoma: The counselor is wrong. Your sex life might not be what it once was, but there is no reason it cannot be fulfilling and satisfying and still include passion. We understand that menopause has taken a toll on your wife's libido, but she needs to make the effort to work on intimacy because she loves you and values her marriage. Please see a different counselor who will work with both of you to improve those things you can, instead of encouraging you to give up.

Dear Annie: Yesterday, I celebrated a big birthday and received cards and well wishes from many friends.

One in particular sent a nice card. However, I was a bit disappointed there wasn't more. Two years ago, when she celebrated the same big birthday, I wanted to make it special and sent a card with an enclosed gift certificate.

I was surprised she didn't reciprocate. I would have been happy if she had just sent a note saying, “I will take you out to lunch” or something similar. It hurts that she made no gesture at all. I considered us very close. Am I being foolish to feel this way? — Janet in Reno, Nev.

Dear Janet: Not foolish, but perhaps overly optimistic. It was kind of you to send a birthday gift to your friend, but it was unsolicited, and your thoughtfulness depreciates substantially when you think she “owes” you as a result. All she owes you is a thank-you note. She apparently isn't the type to exchange gifts. Now you know.

Dear Annie: This is in response to “Upset in Santa Cruz,” whose stepdaughter-in-law accused her of abusing her son because there were bruises on him.

Unexplained bruises can be the result of a rare, heritable connective tissue disorder called Ehlers-Danlos syndrome. One sign of EDS is tissue fragility, which results in unexplained bruises. Unfortunately, these bruises often create the impression that the child has been abused.

Please inform your readers, especially teachers, parents and medical professionals, that easily bruised skin can be a symptom of EDS. Additional information can be found at Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome Network C.A.R.E.S., Inc., (ehlersdanlosnetwork.org) P.O. Box 66, Muskego, WI 53150. — J.R.

Dear J.R.: Thank you for educating our readers — and us — about this rare condition. Unfortunately, when there are bruises, there is often a less benign reason.

Annie's Mailbox is written by Kathy Mitchell and Marcy Sugar, longtime editors of the Ann Landers column. Please e-mail your questions to anniesmailbox@comcast.net, or write to: Annie's Mailbox, c/o Creators Syndicate, 5777 W. Century Blvd., Ste. 700, Los Angeles, CA 90045. To find out more about Annie's Mailbox and read features by other Creators Syndicate writers and cartoonists, visit the Creators Syndicate Web page at www.creators.com.

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Happy & Sad's story is all too common. I'm nothing special in the looks department, but I've had many affairs with men, married or recently divorced, who were in the same situation: either no more sex at home or it was like making love to a dead fish. When I would ask them what they saw in me, it was always a similar response: I'm very enthusiastic in bed and love sex. One man's wife was even up every day at 5.30 to go spend an hour or more at the gym before work so she could "keep her figure"! Well, she was certainly keeping it to herself! It baffles me that these women think their husbands will stay faithful to them. That is completely unrealistic, and 9 times out of 10, it ain't gonna happen, ladies. So shape up before he ships out.
Comment: #1
Posted by: Claire Beatty
Sun Jan 31, 2010 9:14 PM
45 is way too young to give up in the bedroom! I met my husband when I was 50, and we have a whompin' good time in the bedroom. She should ask her GYN for some hormones to help her find her libido again.
Comment: #2
Posted by: sarah
Mon Feb 1, 2010 1:22 AM
Happy & Sad in Oklahome should run, not walk, to a different counselor one who has already limited her own sexual horizons isn't going to be helpful to them, and their present counselor would appear to have potential problems of her own. I would suggest that the counselor get counseling. There are many things this couple can try. While my hormones have ebbed and flowed, my love for my partner has never dimished, and he knows that my spirit is always willing even when my body flags; so he insists that I share his Viagra - and it does make a difference. We are both in our 60s and still share a fantastic sex life - both because of that Viagra sharing and because he is a creative lover who derives his pleasure from the pleasure he gives me. I just try to keep up with him and to always be there for him. It's true that 99% of sex is between the ears (in the mind), and attitude and being open to trying new things keeps your love life young, new, exciting and interesting. Every thime I think I know all about this wonderful man, he peels back another layer and shows me new aspects I'd never considered. There's no rule that only one approach equates a fulfilling and happy sex life. This couple should be exploring untried visual and bodily stimulus and whatever else comes to their minds that they have not tried in the past. They might actually find they both enjoy something they haven't tried before - and it could reawaken their sex life togther.
Comment: #3
Posted by: graham072442
Mon Feb 1, 2010 5:37 AM
I too was 46 when I was in premenopause. Do NOT listen to the counselor. Being a Christian we know that sex between a married couple is a gift from God. Married couples that is. We are not to deprive one another inientionally . God gives us resourses so we ask for desernment, wisdom and guideance and take Godly advice. I worlking in the medical field for many years before going into ministry was caught in the middle of knowing there are not many Godly honest people out there that truely care, at least not in the city I live in (not to say that is not elsewhere). I finally found a wonderful Christian woman who turned to the same creator I did on a regular basis in prayer before going to work so that HE would give her the Wisdom she needed to help those that come to her. She suggested that I try Bio-identical hormones. I had heard bad things about hormones in the past but these are safe. After doing research & taking her advise I started them and within 2 months I was pretty much back to my 20' somethings even though I am 47. So don't give up, also remember this goes both ways for you men. Testostorne must be checked because when levels start going out of wack, due to changes within ourselves, sometimes medications we are on men can be lacking that also. So my prayers are with all women who feel they are done...find a good honest doctor and never take Worldly advice.
Comment: #4
Posted by: Ginafar
Mon Feb 1, 2010 6:22 AM
I am appalled by the prevailing notion that men are somehow *entitled* to sexual gratification no matter what. Menopause flips a switch for many women. That's just the way nature works. That doesn't give a man the right to demand sex anyway or to seek it elsewhere. A marriage is for better or for worse, and as we age, things inevitably get worse. Men need to drop this schoolboy attitude about sex, grow up, and get over it.
Comment: #5
Posted by: MsRadooo
Mon Feb 1, 2010 7:01 AM
Happy and Sad's wife should talk to her doctor about her chemical imbalance. I'm 53 and began taking bio-identical hormones for menopause symptoms. I started taking, among other things, testosterone and it has, quite frankly, changed my life in more ways than I can explain. I have so much more energy, my belly fat melted away, plus my husband and I have become so much closer, not only physically, but emotionally and spiritually. We celebrate our 25th anniversary this year and we are now closer than we have ever been. It literally transformed our relationship.
Comment: #6
Posted by: tmc
Mon Feb 1, 2010 7:47 AM
Happy and Sad's wife should talk to her doctor about her chemical imbalance. I'm 53 and began taking bio-identical hormones for menopause symptoms. Among other things, I started taking testosterone and it has, quite frankly, changed my life in more ways than I can explain. I have so much more energy, my belly fat melted away, plus my husband and I have become so much closer, not only physically, but emotionally and spiritually. We celebrate our 25th anniversary this year and we are now closer than we have ever been. It literally transformed our relationship.
Comment: #7
Posted by: tmc
Mon Feb 1, 2010 7:49 AM
LW1, yes you need to see another counselor, because people age differently. The Annies ignored your talk of infidelity. Maybe your wife knows you're bordering on not to be trusted. Or maybe, you've been importuning her more than you actually understand, making a fragile situation more unrewarding for her and eroding it's development. Obviously it's hard when only one side of a story is present. And Claire? What goes around, comes around.
Comment: #8
Posted by: julia
Mon Feb 1, 2010 8:14 AM
I think everyone needs to lay off the wife and the counselor for a second and consider whether we can really trust Happy and Sad's view of things. This line gives me pause: "And after all these years of being faithful, it's getting harder and harder to brush off the continuous opportunities to stray." Who is he, Hugh Hefner? Who experiences "continuous opportunities to stray"? Also, if he's been so happy all these years, why is he demanding respect for "all these years of being faithful"?
Maybe he should trust his counselor, who has more of the facts than we do. Maybe his idea of a "fulfilling" sex life IS unrealistic. Maybe he defines "fulfilling" as five or six times a day. Just something to think about before we encourage his wife to pump herself full of hormones.
Comment: #9
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Mon Feb 1, 2010 11:44 AM
Happy and Sad in Oklahoma should first get his wife to a holistic gyn who can treat her whole being. After surgical menopause at the age of 35, I experienced horrible side-effects such as hot flashes, lack of energy, lack on libido, etc. After my doctor put me on hormone replacement therapy, the hot flashes subsided. Still complaining of lack luster energy and libido, I found myself going from doctor to doctor in the hopes that someone would actually listen and help. After being told several times that I just need to deal with it, I found a female gyn who ran a battery of tests. As I suspected, my testosterone levels were low. Also, my thyroid was not functioning properly. I'm happy to say that today, 10 years later, my sex life is better than any other time in my life. Of course, having a caring and supportive husband made a tremendous difference.
Comment: #10
Posted by: Mid-South Mary
Mon Feb 1, 2010 12:03 PM
Re: MsRadooo... I can't decide whether you are bitter or just idealistic. Even if what you say is true in theory, it doesn't work in practice. Keep up that attitude and you are headed for divorce court if you don't want sex and expect your husband to stay faithful. And by the way, they don't all want girls half their age. I am 50 and the men I've had affairs with range in age from 40 to 64 and all told similar stories unprompted: they love their wives, they wish they could stay with them, but they cannot and will not live without sex. Some tried for years and finally gave up. Wake up and smell the REAL coffee.
Comment: #11
Posted by: Claire Beatty
Mon Feb 1, 2010 1:52 PM
While I'm sympathetic to Happy and Sad, and sadly although there are a few women who give up sex at menopause, ArmchairAdviceGiver may have a point. My husband has ED, but tells other people I'm frigid. And he tells me I am not "woman enough to turn him on." (Of course I am wondering what business his friends and relations have hearing about our sex life anyway, that getting back to you by itself is a very big turn-off!) What he is really wanting is not mutual love-making, it is for me to miraculously make sex happen for him, never mind any affection (either in or out of bed), fore-play, etc. It is only about him. I know of a lot of other women whose husbands started having problems about the time the wife hit menopause, and their husbands swear it is the wife and will not be honest with themselves or their doctor. As for me, years ago I figured out he only showed affection when he wanted sex, and we had so many years of it was my duty to please him, what I wanted didn't even count, that I really don't miss what sex had degenerated into anyway. But I still miss what we had at the beginning when at least I thought he actually cared about pleasing me also. As for Claire Beatty, I've known women whose husbands had affairs, and inevitably one of the first signs was that he began withholding from his wife, both physical and emotional intimacy. And the few women I've known who had affairs with married men all claimed he insisted his wife was withholding or unresponsive so they felt justified, it was his wife's "fault." If a man (or a woman) does not have the integrity to stay true to their marriage vows, who sneaks around with you and lies to her (or him), they probably are not being exactly honest with you. The poor woman trying so hard to keep her figure may have desperately been trying to overcome her husband claiming she was turning him off by looking fat or old. Getting back to Happy and Sad, if there is nothing physical, try romancing her again, take her on a second honeymoon (away from the house), lots of affection for the sake of affection. Many of us begin to feel a little old and taken for granted at menopause and actually need more affection. Remember the things you did to win her in the first place. Get away from the daily routines and maybe you will light a spark again.
Comment: #12
Posted by: Elizabeth
Mon Feb 1, 2010 11:53 PM
Re: Claire Beatty
Women whose husbands have affairs say the first sign is almost always that he withdraws from them. Sorry, but I would not take the word of the person having an affair for what is wrong in their marriage. They are dishonest with their wives and dishonest with you.
Comment: #13
Posted by: Elizabeth
Tue Feb 2, 2010 12:08 AM
"Upset in Santa Cruz" may also be witness to a child untreated for an infection of the spleen. I had it at age 2, and my parents got the vilest looks from nurses and doctors when they first brought me to a local hospital. I wound up in Boston Children's for it. If drug therapy hadn't worked, I'd have had the spleen out in surgery.
Comment: #14
Posted by: Diane M. Starkey
Wed Feb 3, 2010 7:07 PM
Re: MsRadooo. You're like the person who finds it unacceptable that wild bears go to the bathroom in the woods. It's going to happen whether you accept it or not. The point being, men are wired a certain way, to want certain things. If you cannot at least get your head around that, stay away from them or marry a eunuch.
Comment: #15
Posted by: Matt
Thu Feb 4, 2010 12:14 AM
Re: MsRadooo. You're like the person who finds it unacceptable that wild bears go to the bathroom in the woods. It's going to happen whether you accept it or not. The point being, men are wired a certain way, to want certain things. If you cannot at least get your head around that, stay away from them or marry a eunuch.
Comment: #16
Posted by: Matt
Thu Feb 4, 2010 12:15 AM
Re: Matt. Apparently the way men are wired is okay, but the way this woman is wired is not?
Interesting how that "men are wired this way" argument only comes up when men are doing something wrong. It's nothing but a pathetic excuse for bad behavior. "We can't help it!" But women are supposed to "help it." We can't go cheating on people and get to use the same excuse.
No one knows how people are "wired." Human behavior varies incredibly. The only thing that seems to be "wired" is that people behave differently according to the situation they are in.
Comment: #17
Posted by: Mary
Mon Aug 1, 2011 6:45 AM
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