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Annie's Mailbox®, January 28

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Dear Annie: My in-laws live in a condominium about 35 miles from us. We visit them once a month. My father-in-law does not move around very well and is incontinent. He seldom leaves the condo. My mother-in-law still walks, but only to the grocery store or doctor's office. She is obviously beginning to slow down.

We know there will come a day when they are no longer able to stay in the condo. However, they have no intention of moving into a retirement community. They say, “We don't want to live in a place where there are only old people.” Meanwhile, they know no one in their condo building, where they have lived for 20 years, nor do they visit friends elsewhere.

Several months ago, my in-laws bought a miniature poodle puppy that can only be described as neurotic. If anyone enters the condo, it will either hide or sit in a corner and growl. My father-in-law says the dog would get used to us if we visited more often, and once a month apparently isn't often enough.

Annie, we have three very active children, not to mention a house and chores and jobs to take care of. We visit the in-laws as often as possible, but we cannot see them every weekend simply so their dog can get to know us better. My husband says they are lonely and isolated, but I don't think that is our responsibility. This is really beginning to become a problem. Please help. — Had It in Maryland

Dear Maryland: Your husband is right — your in-laws are lonely. You are not responsible for their unwillingness to reach out to neighbors and friends, but try to be a bit more compassionate. Since you are too busy to see them more often, suggest your husband visit his parents on his own. You also can look into caregiving services if their health interferes with their mobility.

Dear Annie: This is for “Feeling the Pain in Ohio,” who has trouble shaking hands because of arthritis.

Why not make life a little more multicultural and try the Asian custom of bowing? Not only will it avoid handshakes, but it could help break the ice and start an interesting conversation. — Just a Thought from Georgia

Dear Georgia: Thanks for the idea. Here are a few more:

From Chicago: Try touching the back of the person's extended hand with your fingertips as you say, “I'd love to shake your hand, but it's too painful for me.”

Santa Fe, N.M.: Place a pencil in your hand when greeting customers. This will delay the handshake and give you time to say, “I suffer from arthritis so please be gentle” before offering your hand.

Tennessee: A simple solution is to wear a noticeable wrist brace. Put it on the right hand. (If it's on both hands, some folks will think it's a fashion accessory.) It can work wonders in letting them know to shake this hand very gently.

Sarasota, Fla.: I am a self-defense practitioner. When someone offers their hand, reach deep into their palm with your forefinger toward the base of their thumb. By doing this, the grip cannot be applied as forcefully. As an additional precaution, firmly hold their right wrist with your left hand. This will allow you to help disengage if it proves to be too painful.

Louisville, Ky.: I take the person's hand in both of mine and gently pat their hand, saying, “I have a sore hand today.” I keep my hands flat.

California: Actually, it's more of a refinement on your suggestion, which was pretty good — to grab their wrist or arm instead of their hand. My idea is to use your left hand instead of your right. It will throw off their reflexes and slow them down just enough for you to win the grab contest.

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Hi Annie,
I have a very good suggestion for the woman whose in laws don't want to move to an assisted living facility. When we were trying to move my parents, they refused also, but it was recommended to us by the director fo the facility that we do it as a moving party. We girls took Mom to the movies, and the guys and dad moved the stuff in. We did this for a trial basis of one month. Even though our mother was not pleased with us and showed it, byt he end of the month, she said that she was being pig headed and it was the best thing they ever did. They are now around lots of contemporaries and ahve fun with all the activities that the center plans. Give it a try, if they don't like it, just move them back home. Good luck!MARIE
Comment: #1
Posted by: Marie
Wed Jan 27, 2010 11:22 PM
I disagree with "Marie", the person who added a comment about moving her mother without first asking her permission. Being old does not make the person incompetent. If I did this to my parents, it would be considered extremely disrespectful, passive-aggressive, and manipulative. I might disagree with their choices, but they are still adults and deserve to be treated as such.
Comment: #2
Posted by: Jan
Thu Jan 28, 2010 3:24 AM
LW1 needs to brace herself and make sure there are no "guest" rooms in her house. The fact that her in laws said they don't want to live with a bunch of old people sends up a red flag- they want to move in with the LW. And the fact that her dimwitted husband talks about how lonely they are means he's probably in on it. She needs to make it clear RIGHT NOW that with three active children, there's no way she's taking on the responsibility of the in laws personal needs. Who do you think is going to get hit up for help with getting in and out of the bathtub? And absolutely, let her husband visit more often on his own. They're his parents, he shouldn't need a chaperone to visit.
Comment: #3
Posted by: Jennifer
Thu Jan 28, 2010 6:06 AM
LW1 needs to brace herself and make sure there are no "guest" rooms in her house. The fact that her in laws said they don't want to live with a bunch of old people sends up a red flag- they want to move in with the LW. And the fact that her dimwitted husband talks about how lonely they are means he's probably in on it. She needs to make it clear RIGHT NOW that with three active children, there's no way she's taking on the responsibility of the in laws personal needs. Who do you think is going to get hit up for help with getting in and out of the bathtub? And absolutely, let her husband visit more often on his own. They're his parents, he shouldn't need a chaperone to visit.
Comment: #4
Posted by: Jennifer
Thu Jan 28, 2010 6:06 AM
LW1 needs to brace herself and make sure there are no "guest" rooms in her house. The fact that her in laws said they don't want to live with a bunch of old people sends up a red flag- they want to move in with the LW. And the fact that her dimwitted husband talks about how lonely they are means he's probably in on it. She needs to make it clear RIGHT NOW that with three active children, there's no way she's taking on the responsibility of the in laws personal needs. Who do you think is going to get hit up for help with getting in and out of the bathtub? And absolutely, let her husband visit more often on his own. They're his parents, he shouldn't need a chaperone to visit.
Comment: #5
Posted by: Jennifer
Thu Jan 28, 2010 6:08 AM
Check out retirement home options and home care options and save the information. Periodically update it. While the in-laws are functioning you can't force them. But be prepared for the day when they can no longer be on there own. It is coming. Hopefully they will see it too, but it may come when it gets to be just one of them, or when one can't care for the other, or in under doctor's orders. And it very often comes suddenly. Been there. Wish I had been prepared.
Some of the larger assisted living places have a few activities open to the public like concerts aimed at the elderly. If you could find excuses to get the in-laws to visit for some special events at one, they might decide they like the place. Also, some do allow small pets, but the person has to be able to care for them themselves and the pets have to be well-behaved. Also, a number of assisted living places allow people to have their own furnishings in apartment-like rooms, which would probably be more attractive to them. Look for a place with graduated levels of care, as you don't want to have to move them again once you do get them settled somewhere.
You and husband may have to put in some extra time now to get them in a better situation, but it will be worth it in the long run if you can convince them to move while they are able to make the decision. And, definitely try to get them closer to you. My dad fussed because I had him in an assisted living in my hometown instead of an hour away in his, but I was able to visit several times a week, keep him supplied with his favorite soda and hot sauce, and transport him to doctor's visits myself, as well as involve him in my kids lives and bring him over to my house for meals and holidays. In his case strokes very suddenly ended his independence.
Comment: #6
Posted by: Elizabeth
Thu Jan 28, 2010 6:18 AM
We have had the same problem in the past with 3 different members of the family. Oakcrest Villiage in Parkville, Charlestown Villiage in Catonsville and Riderwood Villiage in Silver Spring all offer Condo type independent living apartments with complete services. They also can provide, when the time comes, assisted living vacilities and also long term nursing care. It is time for Had it in Maryland to look into these facilities. My parents( Oakcrest), Uncle and Aunt(Charlestown) and Cousin (Riderwood) who I am also POA love where they are and have used all three levels of care. I can say that I know of no place that could offer better living accomodations for older people than these three. It would be worth HAD IN MARYLAND to look into moving them to one of these locations.
Comment: #7
Posted by: John Buchheister
Thu Jan 28, 2010 7:09 AM
LW1 - Just curious how it will be when your parents are in this situation? I'm sure you'll find plenty of time for them and insist that your husband help with their care.
Comment: #8
Posted by: Wilma
Thu Jan 28, 2010 9:15 AM
LW1 - I'm curious to know how you'll feel when your parents are in this situation. I bet you'll have plenty of time for them and also insist your husband be involved in their care. My sister-in-law had your attitude when my parents started to age. She apparently forgot how much my parents helped her when her children were young and sick. Aren't in-laws part of the family?
Comment: #9
Posted by: Wilma
Thu Jan 28, 2010 10:14 AM
re:LW1 - Elderly people get to make decisions and weigh their own options whether they're good, bad or indifferent and unless you hog tie them and physically force them they are probobly not going to budge. I'm concerned about the poor dog though.
Comment: #10
Posted by: Rick
Thu Jan 28, 2010 11:06 AM
Re: Rick, I agree with you on both counts. And it's not normal for a puppy to growl or hide. Something sounds really wrong there. Of course the poodle may be some poor inbred creature from a puppy mill...
Comment: #11
Posted by: Van Wickle
Thu Jan 28, 2010 11:24 AM
Elizabeth has the answer; start researching places now, before the situation becomes critical. My good friend's mother has Alzheimer's disease and her father recently suffered 3 strokes. They are 2000 miles away and unable to care for him. The hospital wants to release her dad. She and her siblings are scrambling to find a care facility. The hospital is charging them big money to keep her dad because he is "combative." Horrid situation.

The better places often have a waiting list, so the sooner you start your research, the better your chances of finding a place where your in-laws will be happy. I have entertained in some of the more upscale places, and they really make an effort to provide a wide variety of activities and entertainment for their residents. The in-laws might be happier there then they imagine.
Comment: #12
Posted by: PuaHone
Thu Jan 28, 2010 12:50 PM
To LW#1 - Wow. 35 WHOLE miles away? Are these people mean or rude or ignorant to you? If not (and you didnot say they were so I am assuming they are not), WHAT are you teaching your children? Remember: what goes around, comes around and I am SURE you will be neglected in your old age.
We have 6 children, parents lived 45 miles away, and we managed to see them once a week, even with work & sports & band & school events! And we are not the only ones. Good friends of ours made the weekly visit to the inlaws, who lived 75 MILES away, and one parent was totally senile & never recognized them (they lived in Assisted Living)!! And to the husband - you should ashamed of yourself! Even if your wife has no interest, aren't these the people who RAISED you? Can't you find a few hours a week??

I bet your kids are self-absorbed brats too. Fruit don't fall far from the tree.
Comment: #13
Posted by: Barbara
Thu Jan 28, 2010 1:01 PM
PS- just a thought for LW#1 - remember when they do go into a senior home, their money will be drained, then the day will come when they cannot afford it and will have to get into a nursing home that takes Medicaid, which means EVEN their life insurance policies will need to be cashed in. And don't get greedy & think you can move them in by you, ignore them but use up their $, cuz Medicaid goes back FIVE years...HAHAHAHA, kiss your inheritance goodby & that serves you right as you deserve NOT one cent (neither does your spineless hubby)!!
Comment: #14
Posted by: Barbara
Thu Jan 28, 2010 1:05 PM
Have a heart folks. His parents seem like a handful to me. Here they are raising kids and have jobs. If they do too much for the in laws then they will be enabling and the in laws won't do things for themselves. I think it is an excellent suggestion that the man go visit his parents on his own. I also think it is an excellent idea to look into assisted living centers right now before you need them. But I think it is too harsh to say that she is "mean' to not try to help them. It takes a lot to work at a job and raise a family in the right way. She is probably doing the best she can and doesn't need the extra stress of "raising" the husband's parents. I know this because I have been there done this.
Comment: #15
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Thu Jan 28, 2010 7:42 PM
I don't know what the right answer is, because there are going to b e nuances not available in a letter. But the woman who said a hospital was charging big money because a patient was combative is incorrect. That never adds to the bill. Any patient at any time under certain circumstances can be "difficult." It's just part of the package.
Comment: #16
Posted by: julia
Fri Jan 29, 2010 5:31 AM
Dear Annie, You frequently have letters from mid-lifers who have no time for their elders, only for their children. We have all been there but do they not realize that by their actions they are teaching THEIR children how to care for them someday? Actions speak much louder than words .If love, compassion and concern is shown and sown perhaps that is what
they themselves will reap someday. It works for our family.
Comment: #17
Posted by: Lora
Sat Jan 30, 2010 10:29 AM
There is some type of "Elder Care" program in all 50 states. The "children" should consult them to discuss options. Wishing and hoping, "moving party," and most of those other comments may only make "the problem" worse.
Comment: #18
Posted by: Zona Gale
Mon Feb 1, 2010 7:24 PM
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