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Annie's Mailbox®, January 25
Dear Annie: I have two 21-year-old granddaughters who live in different states. My son was never married to “Shannon's” mother, and there are a lot of hard feelings between them. My other granddaughter, “Christy,” recently married, and I traveled to another state to attend her wedding.
At Christy's wedding reception, my husband and I were seated with both of our sons and the bride's mother. There was room at our table for Shannon and her boyfriend, so I invited them to sit with us, but she refused. I didn't understand why, so I went over to talk to her. Christy saw me and told her father that I was not permitted to talk to Shannon at her wedding.
When I was informed of this, I was taken by surprise and could not believe Christy would make the effort to order me around at her own reception. I thought I had a good rapport with her.
I love both of my granddaughters, but I am very hurt by their rude behavior. I have been helping them with college and giving them holiday and birthday gifts, but I no longer want to contribute anything toward either of them. What is happening in our world that a 21-year-old has the nerve to tell her 77-year-old grandmother who she can and cannot speak to? I want them to learn that there are consequences for their actions. Should I ignore their behavior or stop all payments? — Troubled Grandmother
Dear Troubled: Shannon was not being rude when she refused to join your table. She was trying to avoid an argument. Christy, however, showed terrible manners and has no business dictating which grandchildren you can speak to, especially at her wedding, which is a family occasion. Punishing her financially is up to you, but be sure to explain why you are unhappy with her disrespectful behavior.
Dear Annie: Whenever I'm upset or elated, I tend to shout out four-letter words. However, now that I have small children, I would really like to stop this bad habit. It happens frequently enough that I know they will soon start repeating what they hear. Please help. — Don't Want to be a Sailor
Dear Sailor: Some people have a neurological condition that inhibits their ability to control the words they say when upset or elated. If you think this might be your problem, ask your doctor to check you for Tourette syndrome.
However, if this is simply an ingrained bad habit developed over the past several years, you can learn to stop. Being aware of it is the first step. The next step is putting your brain in gear when you speak, and not only in front of your children. Do it consistently everywhere. When you are excited, be especially slow to open your mouth so you have time to censor what you are going to say. This takes time and practice, but you are motivated to do it, so we have every confidence you'll succeed.
Dear Annie: This is in response to “Concerned Paw Paw,” whose 5-year-old great-granddaughter spit at him.
Yes, little children misbehave from time to time, but a 5-year-old is plenty old enough to be taught firmly to show respect. If my 5-year-old daughter ever did such a thing to my parents or grandparents, she would not only be made to apologize, but would be punished soundly.
Discomfort around relatives you rarely see is understandable, but spitting is not. At 5, she is too old to get away with that behavior. Shame on her parents. — Sensible Mom
Dear Mom: We absolutely agree that the parents should have told their child to apologize to her great-grandfather. Rude behavior can be corrected. But we also think it wouldn't hurt for “Paw Paw” to get to know his great-granddaughter a little better.
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dear annie,
my mom and me are having very diffrent ideas about each other. we dont know who is right or wrong. my mom is always complaing on how i dont do my best is school, but she dosent get that school is diffrent now. she went to school how many years ago. she dosent get how hard it has gotten. i go to a college prep school, its so hard that i dont have a life outside of school. i wasnt born with a super smart brain. i just wish she could get off my back cause she makes me feel like an idiot for telling me to stop crying and just say its ok baaby ill help you throught it. sometimes i think it would be better if i just run away and forget the life i have here. help me get through this.
---help me iver here
Comment: #1
Posted by: daughter
Mon Jan 25, 2010 4:15 AM
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Re: daughter
It doesn't take a super-smart brain to use proper spelling, grammar, and punctuation. It takes a willingness to do so. You write as if you're in 4th grade, and probably speak that way as well. If you attend a college prep school, you should be mature enough to avoid crying and complaining, and to even lightly consider "running away" also shows a lack of dedication to your education. A great many people have "no life" outside of school. You need to examine your priorities and adjust your attitude. When you behave like an adult, your mother will treat you like one.
Comment: #2
Posted by: Bobbie
Mon Jan 25, 2010 6:10 AM
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Dear Annie,
This is for Don't Want to be a Sailor. Create a "swear jar." Use any kind of container that will hold money and make it a house rule that no swear words are allowed. Charge yourself a small amount for each word. In our house we started with ten cents per word. This will make you very aware of what you are saying. Set yourself a goal of going for a week without having to put any money in the jar. Then, when you reach your goal, take the money and treat yourself for all your hard work. I've used this technique at my work and home and it really works!
Comment: #3
Posted by: teresa
Mon Jan 25, 2010 6:18 AM
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Dear Annie,
This is for the Don't want to be a Sailor. This is a technique I have used at home and at work and it really worked for me and the people who worked for me in a restaurant. Set up a Swear Jar. Charge a small amount for each word. In my case we charged ten cents a word. Then challenge yourself to go for longer periods of time without having to put any money in the jar. When you reach a goal, give yourself a little treat and you'll be surprised at how soon you find yourself really paying attention to what you say. I have used this at home with myself and teenagers and in my capacity as a manager for a pizza delivery restaurant. I think it works because it hits you in your wallet. Ten cents may not seem like much, but it can really add up quickly.
Comment: #4
Posted by: teresa
Mon Jan 25, 2010 6:27 AM
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Your response to Paw Paw did not address the issue of the childs normal behavior. I certainly wouldn't want to "get to know" my greatgrand child better if this was her normal behavior. Bad manners are the result of parents not correcting their children. I wouldn't want to get into the conflict with the parents - because they are not going to change. Paw Paw's not missing a thing. The lesson to be learned is that people do not like ill behaved children - even yours.
Comment: #5
Posted by: Penny
Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:04 AM
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But it is natural to shout out something when upset or elated, so Sailor ought to decide on some acceptable exclamations to substitute for the rude ones and then practice using them until it's second nature.
As for Troubled Grandmother... what appalling behavior from the granddaughter! Good advice, though.
Comment: #6
Posted by: Van Wickle
Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:07 AM
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This is for the Troubled Grandmother: I agree with the Annies, but there is one more thing here. Since the bride told her father and her father told the Grandmother, this "message" should never have even reached the Grandmother. Cristie's father should have told his daughter " Shannon is your Grandmother's granddaughter, too. And you do not tell your Grandmother who in the family she may or may not talk to."
Comment: #7
Posted by: Elizabeth
Mon Jan 25, 2010 10:18 AM
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Re: troubled grandmother -- she's right in a way, but, being in her seventies and seasoned in life, she should learn to cut the bride a little slack. A wedding day can be a happy day, but it can also be extremely tense and stressful under that smiling veneer. It sounds like the bride had someone had her wedding she really didn't want, like or feel comfortable with, and was trying to stave off further problems. Yes, she might have been more gracious. But her snapping off a comment like that is understandable in that kind of situation.
Comment: #8
Posted by: sarah morrow
Mon Jan 25, 2010 11:55 AM
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if any of you ppl actually knew the history of your language, you'd know that there are no bad letters, and hence no bad words. the words that ignorant ppl like yourselves consider "bad", have had every one of their meanings changed by.............ignorant ppl like yourselves! the acronym f.u.c.k.(for unlawful carnal knowlege) was merely the abbreviation of the charge levied against unmarried sex, and never a word at all. if you say "my parents are always fornicating", i see the same image as if you say they were f.u.c.k.-ing. please learn your language. bitch-old biological term meaning female mammal, bastard-fatherless child, ass -donkey( in the bible!), piss-urine(in the bible kings 2)asshole-anus, dick? is now penis? how does that work? lets not forget "god damn it"- the name of the deity in the bible was never god, which is derived from the german gott, it was YUD-heh-vahv-heh a jewish deity derived from egyptian & sumerian worship. it makes no sense to think jews would worship a deity w/a german name. saying "god damn it ws never taking the NAME of deity in vane! once again there's no such thing as bad words! unless you're confusing symbols with the actual ideas they represent. i may have mis-typed/puncuated some words because i have pussies (feline animals) on my keyboard right now.
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Posted by: bill
Mon Jan 25, 2010 12:20 PM
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Sounds to me the bride didn't want the Grandmother at the wedding. So many times these days Grandparents think that because they send money they are entitled to say whatever they want. Did any one wonder why Grandmother was not to speak to Christy? Maybe the bride or her cousin have experienced the venom of the Grandmother. Good for the bride for standing up for her cousin. Go ahead and keep your money, old woman. Rewrite the will and cut them out. Sounds like the Granddaughters cannot be bought. Whom ever wanted Granny at the wedding should apologize to the bride. It's obvious Granny wasn't wanted by the bride.
Comment: #10
Posted by: Laurie
Mon Jan 25, 2010 1:38 PM
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Re: bill
Loved your post!
Comment: #11
Posted by: Diana
Mon Jan 25, 2010 4:00 PM
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I don't know why people get their panties in a bunch over words. I don't generally watch what I, an adult, say around my child but I guarantee my child does not repeat what comes out of my mouth. She hasn't earned the right and she knows it.
Comment: #12
Posted by: Diana
Mon Jan 25, 2010 4:04 PM
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Pretty harsh there, Penny. Even if we assume this is a normal 5-yr-old child behaving badly (as opposed to one with a medical condition like autism or ADD), it's unreasonable to write off the kid for not knowing any better. Perhaps Paw Paw could be a positive influence in her life. There's absolutely no substitute for the love of a grandparent. I think it's sad that people today are so wrapped up in themselves that they can't be bothered getting involved anymore. These kids are our future. Sad, sad, sad.
Comment: #13
Posted by: TimTam
Mon Jan 25, 2010 4:36 PM
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Re: daughter
She also could have ADD or ADHD. She should talk to a guidance counselor or teacher and maybe they can talk to her parents.
Comment: #14
Posted by: Tina
Mon Jan 25, 2010 6:36 PM
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I still can't believe the ignorance contained in the Annies' response to LW2! Tourette Syndrome isn't a swearing and/or cursing disorder! Sure, there are some people who have this health condition and have uncontrollable impulses to curse, but Tourette Syndrome is much more complex than that! Most people who have it don't have that "cursing" issue. People who have this condition have "tics," which could be anything from wheezing, blinking, obsessive-compulsive tendencies, and much more! Kathy and Marcy, do your homework BEFORE you answer your mail!
From someone who used to do in-home support for a man who had Tourette Syndrome
Comment: #15
Posted by: Paul
Mon Jan 25, 2010 6:51 PM
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For the grandmother who didn't understand why Shannon didn't want to sit with them. Oh please, she was only invited out of courtesy in the hope she, Shannon wouldn't show up. It was Christy's wedding, not just any old get together, like a picnic or something. It was Christy and her husband's day. Christy was probably paying for the reception and felt uneasy with Shannon there. Grandmother should not cut them off financially and esp not Shannon. Granny should just think to herself that things were really tense and let it go. Let it go and find a life, help people. Granny interfered by asking Shannon and her boyfriend to join them. She should have stayed out of it and should stay out of it now and do something productive for society.
Comment: #16
Posted by:
Mon Jan 25, 2010 7:33 PM
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Grandmother was wrong. She should not have interfered. It was a special day, a wedding day, Christy's and her husband, not just a family occasion. Grandmother should get a life.
Comment: #17
Posted by:
Mon Jan 25, 2010 7:40 PM
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Grandmother was wrong. She should not have interfered. It was a special day, a wedding day, Christy's and her husband, not just a family occasion. Grandmother should get a life.
Comment: #18
Posted by:
Mon Jan 25, 2010 7:41 PM
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Re: bill. It doesn't matter that these words originally evolved from names for other things, e.g. female dogs. The culture has decided what the words' contemporary meaning is, and you're not going to convince the entire population's minds on it. (For example, 'gay' originally meant happy, as in the Christmas song "Deck The Halls", but nobody uses it that way anymore.) I have no idea what you were trying to accomplish with this post (other than look down your nose at the rest of us), but it missed the objective by a country mile.
Comment: #19
Posted by: Matt
Tue Jan 26, 2010 12:59 AM
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It's good to try not to swear -- it is important to be aware of what you're teaching your children. However, you can teach your children not to repeat what they hear, too. The fact that they hear it does not automatically mean they are allowed to say it. You don't let them do everything they see, why would you let them repeat everything they hear? Just like behaviour, words can be divided into "kid stuff" and "adult stuff" and it's never to early to start teaching them the difference.
Comment: #20
Posted by: Lynn
Tue Jan 26, 2010 1:59 AM
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Re: TimTam We have gotten to the point in society today that we do not hold children (yes, 5 year olds are capable of knowing better than to spit on someone) accountable for their bad behavior. The child knew spitting was an ugly act. If the parents do not teach manners then it is left to the school system. Ask any kindergarten teacher if they allow spitting in their classes. The main mission of kindergarten is to teach socialization skills. The vast majority of kids start school knowing what is acceptable - and those that don't have had very poor home training. Yes...I did say that!!! I am that K -4 teacher that deals with these children and I see the damage that "allowing bad behavior" causes. People like well behaved children and they DO NOT like ill mannered kids. Parents do their kids great harm by not correcting bad behavior. Just because this child is related to Paw Paw, he doesn't have to like her. Yes...I said that too!!! My greatgramma would have handled that incident quite differently. YOZA!!! She was part of that "Village That Raises Children".
Comment: #21
Posted by: Penny
Tue Jan 26, 2010 7:30 AM
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Re: sarah morrow
Oh please! Cut the bride a litlle slack? Rude behavior - stressed or not is inexcusable - and she shouldn't be allowed to get away with it.
Comment: #22
Posted by: Maria
Tue Jan 26, 2010 8:02 AM
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Re: bill, I agree that there are no "bad" words (or letters or sounds), only social conventions that it makes sense to pay attention to occasionally even if we find those conventions stuffy or illogical. But as it happens, I do know something about the history of English and your information is all wrong. "Fuck" is an old Germanic verb; it is in no way derived from an acronym. This is a false etymology. "Ass" meaning donkey is etymologically distinct from "ass" meaning rear end. It is not the same word. Etc. I just checked Snopes and there is a page on the history of "fuck": http://www.snopes.com/language/acronyms/fuck.asp
Comment: #23
Posted by: Van Wickle
Tue Jan 26, 2010 2:06 PM
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Grandmothers family sounds a little off and greatfather should have slapped that little snots face! ugh! If not great grandpa, then mom or dad should or wash out her mouth! I would have slapped out of reflex! Why would you want to get to know someone who spits in your face?? When she's taught some manners maybe.
Comment: #24
Posted by: ron
Thu Jan 28, 2010 8:54 AM
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