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Annie's Mailbox®, January 22

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Dear Annie: My girlfriend recently told me, "I will never promise that I will always be faithful to you. I have seen too many people make that promise and not follow through."

To say this devastated me is an understatement. We were on the verge of buying a house together, and I had picked out an engagement ring. I backed out of the deal on the house and have not pursued a proposal of marriage. She says I overreacted and took her comment out of context. She also said she has worked hard for her money and needs to protect herself in case something happens and the relationship doesn't survive.

I have been married twice before, and both my wives cheated on me. I can't imagine loving a woman more than I love my girlfriend, and I do want to marry her. But I can't wrap my head around the idea of taking vows and at the same time saying she "might" not be faithful. That doesn't work for me.

Did I overreact? I don't think so. Should I try to work things out? — In Turmoil

Dear Turmoil: Your girlfriend seems to think the problem is the promise and not the behavior. She is telling you she expects to be unfaithful in the future, so please don't hold her to any vows. You seem to be attracted to women who cheat. At least with this one, you know in advance. Caveat emptor.

Dear Annie: My sister recently called to ask if I would like to contribute to a 50th anniversary party for my mother and stepfather.

My stepfather was a very abusive man. He hit my mom, my older brother and me, while my younger sister and brother were treated like royalty. Although he stopped the physical abuse a few years back, he is still verbally abusive.

I am 54 and wrote him off a long time ago. How can my sister expect me to contribute when I can't stand the man? — On the Outs

Dear Outs: Your sister is probably looking for help with the party expenses and hoped you would want to do this for your mother.

However, you are under no obligation to celebrate an anniversary that is so painful for you. Tell her sorry, no.

Dear Annie: I was quite concerned with the message you relayed in response to "Trusting Girlfriend," whose boyfriend, "George," took photographs of a 14-year-old girl who was wearing an outfit that showed her cleavage. You chastised George, but added that "those parents should pay attention to the way their young daughter is dressing if it attracts dirty old men like George."

I work with child victims of sexual abuse and victims of rape. They spend hours in therapy trying to resolve their feelings of responsibility and understand that what they wore does not make the abuse their fault. Did you intend to imply that what this girl wore was the cause of George's inappropriate behavior? It is bad enough that society puts the responsibility on victims, but you should not reinforce it. — Tammy Lippman, LCSW

Dear Tammy Lippman: We had an interesting response to that letter. A surprising number of readers (mostly male) thought George did nothing wrong. Others felt we didn't go far enough in condemning him. And a few, like you, thought we were blaming the victim.

We do not consider George a child molester because he did not know she was underage and he did not touch her. But we think any adult male who deliberately takes photographs only from the neck down of a young girl whom he does not know is behaving in an amazingly offensive manner. We also believe children should not be sexualized by dressing in provocative ways. The girl is not responsible for George's behavior, but her parents should teach her that the way she dresses affects how people look at her, and it is pointless to pretend otherwise.

Annie's Mailbox is written by Kathy Mitchell and Marcy Sugar, longtime editors of the Ann Landers column. Please e-mail your questions to anniesmailbox@comcast.net, or write to: Annie's Mailbox, P.O. Box 118190, Chicago, IL 60611. To find out more about Annie's Mailbox, and read features by other Creators Syndicate writers and cartoonists, visit the Creators Syndicate Web page at www.creators.com.

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Thank you, Kathy and Marcy. I appreciate your response to Ms. Lippman. While the way one dresses is never tacit agreement for unwanted behaviors of others, appearance gains attention-both negative and positive. It is the parents' responsibility to teach this. In the case of 'George', it was not something that is likely going to scar the little girl for life, but it could be the awakening she needs to understand that when she advertises, she does get seen.
Comment: #1
Posted by: Ltankersley
Thu Jan 21, 2010 9:55 PM
Re: Ltankersley. Bingo.
Comment: #2
Posted by: Matt
Thu Jan 21, 2010 10:43 PM
We tell our daughter to bait for the fish she hopes to catch. This girl/her parents baited for and caught a creep who likes young cleavage. How is that a surprise?!
Social worker? Sure, a woman should be able to walk down the street naked and "no" still mean "no," but that's wishful thinking. A provocatively dressed woman is going to...duh...provoke men's interest. Some men show their interest in ways the woman might find unwelcome. That's part of the tradeoff. You bait for interest; don't whine when you get it, whatever form it takes. (And if you're dressing/allowing your child to dress to bait this way...yeow.)
Ladies and girls: Cover those puppies up and get over thinking yours are special!!
Comment: #3
Posted by: marcia
Fri Jan 22, 2010 5:45 AM
Reference: On the Outs
This person is uncertain of the decision for this 50th celebration. Looking at this brings back memories, it was not a step-dad but our dad who passed away a while back. All of my brothers and sisters are living with this hate and hanger toward him in any memorials or celebrations we have. To a point where it would ruin the atmosphere in our gatherings.
Being a positive person and wanting to put an end to these ugly comments, I have told all of them that I have not forgotten but I have forgiven to make peace for my inner self. Since that day I feel much better and had my Mom to forgive also and she is more happy and relieve for doing so.
Just let go and get on with your actual life, we did and family life is better now. Be also reassured of one thing you are doing it for yourself and only yourself, oups let us not forget your Mom that would be proud of her child for giving her a well deserve place in your hearth.
Hope to help.
Comment: #4
Posted by: Claude Poirier
Fri Jan 22, 2010 6:12 AM
I think your advise to the first letter was spot on. This womans honesty though painful, has done him a tremendous favor. The man in the first letter could probably benefit from counseling to help him recover from the trauma of having two marriages end due to the wives adultery. Maybe through counseling he can learn to identify that particular character trait in future partners. It also may allow him to explore if he is co-dependent, low-self esteem, or possibly if he has any traits that make him more suseptiable (anger, controling, passive, intimacy issues, etc.) to having relationships that end.
I say these things because I have experienced this situation myself and only wished I would have gotten the help I needed to save me further heartache.
Comment: #5
Posted by: Melissa
Fri Jan 22, 2010 6:19 AM
Perhaps appearance should not matter, but it does -- and not just in this context. Just as a provocative appearance can make draw unwelcome attention, a sloppy appearance can keep you from getting a job (or a date!) This is how humans work.
Comment: #6
Posted by: MsRadooo
Fri Jan 22, 2010 7:00 AM
Obviously the 'old goat' was wrong in taking an inappropriate picture. But the parents need to be more vigilent in monitering their childs dress. Dress too sexy and you will get that attention - right or wrong - that is human nature. Sorry, but we all look and judge. The difference is that most of us do not act on it. People DO know that how they dress is how they WANT people to view them. If your doctor wears jeans it is because he wants to convey an impression as does the nun who wears a habit.
Comment: #7
Posted by: Penny
Fri Jan 22, 2010 8:34 AM
The word provocative means you're going to provoke reaction. I think my mom handled it the right way with me. Some things were absolutely not bought and if we did, not worn out of the house. Other things, she'd let us wear and talk afterward about reaction.
I too looked older than I was, I was about 15 when my high-thigh hemline earned the comment "what's up sexy legs?" from a random guy on the street. I was stunned. My mother's reaction was along the lines of "if you wear a skirt up to there, men will notice. Don't want the attention then lower the hem".
Any man she actually caught staring was quickly informed that we were too young for him to be leering, but she seemed to strike the right balance between protecting us from men and teaching us about them.
Comment: #8
Posted by: Mich
Fri Jan 22, 2010 9:35 AM
RE: In Turmoil - I have a different take on the girlfriend promise. Many 12 step programs deal with people who are unable to make commitments for a lifetime. Such as I will NEVER drink again, or I will NEVER gamble again. The response is that they take their lives one day at a time. If such a person were an alcoholic, and she drinks, she might be unfaithful. If a sex addict, she might be addressing her problem one day at a time also. Do any of us know that we will never be unfaithful? Our promise is a commitment, and an earnest one. But, there might be other ways to make and have a serious and loving commitment without a promise of eternity. Your premise, that a person who does not promise eternity expects to be unfaithful, is shallow and thoughtless, as well as illogical.
Comment: #9
Posted by: Richard
Fri Jan 22, 2010 4:03 PM
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